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Sikh Candidate Kicked From Conservatives

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You can view this situation in two ways. Either you respect him for staying true to his beliefs and not compromising them (although I suspect he probably expected support from others who share his frame of mind; support that failed to materialise), or you can view him as incredibly naive and politically foolish for airing such views - even as someone with conservative beliefs - taking into account the social climate of the society we inhabit in the west.

To top it all off, as someone from an ethnic minority himself (in Canada to boot, where Sikhs have an iffy reputation in some quarters from what I can gather) he should've known his stance on this issue would spell the end of any aspirations he had for being elected. A white MP would struggle to retain their post after airing such opinions; a Sikh was bound to get it in the neck.

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Good, intolerance should not be erm tolerated :s

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As I have mentioned before Canada and Toronto in particular is the PC and feminist capital of the world.

When you have high immigration from socially conservative countries and "liberal/PC" institutions who are trying implement a certain agenda and also claim to provide multi-culturalism you are going to have problems.

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This is the same government who wasted tax payers money and time to make one day in the calendar to honor Pope John Paul II. Pope John Paul II has said gay marriage is evil. Such statements go against Canadian values, yet the conservative government made a special day on the Canadian Calendar to honor Pope John Paul II. A brown man in a turban gets kicked out of the party for similar views as the Pope and the Pope gets honored. Try to wrap your head around this case. Freedom means nothing to Harper when it comes to minorities.

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As I have mentioned before Canada and Toronto in particular is the PC and feminist capital of the world.

When you have high immigration from socially conservative countries and "liberal/PC" institutions who are trying implement a certain agenda and also claim to provide multi-culturalism you are going to have problems.

Exactly. You'd think he'd be fully aware of the above for someone in his position.

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Exactly. You'd think he'd be fully aware of the above for someone in his position.

Yes, what he said is something out of the 1950s.

However, I think there is an underlying current that a lot of people in socially conservative communities would have going by that report.

As Sikhs we feel everyone should have equal rights and should not be discriminated against, but there seems to be an agenda of educational indoctrination regarding sexuality that a lot of people feel uncomfortable with.

If people feel they need to take their children out of school because of this then it was worrying.

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Yes, what he said is something out of the 1950s.

However, I think there is an underlying current that a lot of people in socially conservative communities would have going by that report.

As Sikhs we feel everyone should have equal rights and should not be discriminated against, but there seems to be an agenda of educational indoctrination regarding sexuality that a lot of people feel uncomfortable with.

If people feel they need to take their children out of school because of this then it was worrying.

There is the above aspects to it, for sure.

The fact is the homosexual issue is not up for debate anymore, politically and socially. You'll only get evangelical-type religious sorts who'll condemn homosexuality, and as you know, the media paints those voices as a minority of crackpots.

I can appreciate the concerns of some parents who may feel even discussing such issues with children in school is worrying. This Jagdish Grewal fellow needed to make this point but take it easy on the re-education and re-alignment of gays, lol. That sounds like the kind of thing they use to do in those horrid 50's asylums.

As I said, he really should've been aware that his forthright views on this issue would not be taken lightly. An appeal to parents concerned with those issues should've made the argument he was hoping to express without the extra masala he added.

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what wrong did he say? ess bandhe ne bilkul sahi kiha hai.

Apneaan dhi budhi bhrisht ho gaiee, goriaan dhiaan putiaan adhataa garaain kar liaan!

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The problem sn't what his statement said - he can believe whatever he wants to do, he has full right to do so but problem he along with other likes him using political secular platform/his mp position to spread his views. He has speak to all of his constituents not just sikhs. Its not limited to only sikh only platform...also i have seen others also including evangelical / Anglican/sharia islamic influenced people also bringing their views as well in secular context- which is contrary to fabric of this great Canadian nation - charter right and freedoms.



It's so ironic that people will attack same values - charter right and freedoms which gave them full rights to practise of religion, liberty, to wear whatever they wish when they are in comfortable position.



We should stop becoming like ungrateful people who eats the hands that feed them, give them opportunity to start a new life in country but yes at the same time we should also be vary of going too left as well.



Integrate not annihilate. Thats the key.

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The problem sn't what his statement said - he can believe whatever he wants to do, he has full right to do so but problem he along with other likes him using political secular platform/his mp position to spread his views. He has speak to all of his constituents not just sikhs. Its not limited to only sikh only platform...also i have seen others also including evangelical / Anglican/sharia islamic influenced people also bringing their views as well in secular context- which is contrary to fabric of this great Canadian nation - charter right and freedoms.

It's so ironic that people will attack same values - charter right and freedoms which gave them full rights to practise of religion, liberty, to wear whatever they wish when they are in comfortable position.

We should stop becoming like ungrateful people who eats the hands that feed them, give them opportunity to start a new life in country but yes at the same time we should also be vary of going too left as well.

Integrate not annihilate. Thats the key.

He didn't use his polical platform to spread his views. The guy plays a role within Punjabi media and he posted it online on a website some time back.

What happens in politics is that various parties try to find 'bad' things that opposing party members have said/done. So they go digging into the history of social media accounts, websites, videos, audio, etc.....basically they try and find anything which may be controversial....even if it's many years ago.

That's the truth about this situation.

Don't try and twist it to make it look like something else.

Your 'integrate' comment is very much along the lines of something your favourite Sunny Hundal would say.

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He didn't use his polical platform to spread his views. The guy plays a role within Punjabi media and he posted it online on a website some time back.

What happens in politics is that various parties try to find 'bad' things that opposing party members have said/done. So they go digging into the history of social media accounts, websites, videos, audio, etc.....basically they try and find anything which may be controversial....even if it's many years ago.

That's the truth about this situation.

Don't try and twist it to make it look like something else.

Your 'integrate' comment is very much along the lines of something your favourite Sunny Hundal would say.

Well did he made those public comments in news paper while holding public office as mp? I beleive its conflict of interest. its in the contract.

No integrate comment make sense, one of elderly gursikh told me once...it make perfect sense with canadian charters rights of freedom as how can any of us- poke a hole/disregard same charter rights of freedom which has given us freedom to practise our five ks freely..our singhs are rightly quote same charters right and freedoms to ride bicycle without helmet.

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Well did he made those public comments in news paper while holding public office as mp? I beleive its conflict of interest. its in the contract.

No integrate comment make sense, one of elderly gursikh told me once...it make perfect sense with canadian charters rights of freedom as how can any of us- poke a hole/disregard same charter rights of freedom which has given us freedom to practise our five ks freely..our singhs are rightly quote same charters right and freedoms to ride bicycle without helmet.

Just be careful of the gay and feminist lobby when they try to curtail your right to freedom of speech.

There is going to be a conflict of interest when one hand Canada is supposed to be a multicultural nation being a "mosaic of cultures" instead of a "melting pot".This can imply that all cultural values are the same.

On the other hand, you have powerful lobbies that are trying impose their views on the majority of the population.

Those views may not be the same as the "multi-cultural" values.

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