Why Are Rates Of Suicide Soaring Across The Planet?

[Guest Jacfsing2]

The reason for suicide is because of they have lost value in themselves and feel as there is too much suffering in this world or that everyone has a good life except them. We should be the hope for the hopeless, not as Sikhs, but simply as good human beings, (but for Sikhi is always better).

[simran345]

The reason for suicide is because of they have lost value in themselves and feel as there is too much suffering in this world or that everyone has a good life except them. We should be the hope for the hopeless, not as Sikhs, but simply as good human beings, (but for Sikhi is always better).

Really like this soch (thinking) paji. Such inspiring words for mankind.

[dallysingh101]

If the sector is so unproductive for so many, farmers need to diversify and make livings in other ways. There is another problem with excess pride, too much spending money on superfluous stuff because Panjabis (especially the jats) love to 'floss'. Then feeling worthless or diminished because you can't do this.

Then also this whole excess pride of owning land and being a farmer - mate if the trade is not making you enough money to survive, do something else. A lot of farmers have nice plots they could use in other ways. Stubbornly sticking to something that doesn't pay is nuts.

Panjab completely lacks in creativity when it comes to economy. Need to get away from farming. For God's sake, it was always a crap living; that's why so many farmers were compelled to join the British army to help make ends meet in the past. So the instability of sustaining yourself in this way is no new news.

Sometimes I think our people are a bit retarded.

[Kira]

The reason for suicide is because of they have lost value in themselves and feel as there is too much suffering in this world or that everyone has a good life except them. We should be the hope for the hopeless, not as Sikhs, but simply as good human beings, (but for Sikhi is always better).

Very true. Even if one isn't a sikh, a good human being is something we all should strive for.

[scali]

One plans their life challenges before birth. All life circumstances are brought to him/her for personal growth. The response to them is via free will since we don't have any recollection of our plan. Sikhi is stressing Bhana -manana or acceptance because if we resist too much we will keep getting stuck in the matrix (reincarnation). So if one checks out early he/she will come back pose the same challenge to itself. Keep our thoughts-word -actions Whaeguru centered is the preferred way to swim across this kalyug ocean.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

If the sector is so unproductive for so many, farmers need to diversify and make livings in other ways. There is another problem with excess pride, too much spending money on superfluous stuff because Panjabis (especially the jats) love to 'floss'. Then feeling worthless or diminished because you can't do this.

Then also this whole excess pride of owning land and being a farmer - mate if the trade is not making you enough money to survive, do something else. A lot of farmers have nice plots they could use in other ways. Stubbornly sticking to something that doesn't pay is nuts.

Panjab completely lacks in creativity when it comes to economy. Need to get away from farming. For God's sake, it was always a crap living; that's why so many farmers were compelled to join the British army to help make ends meet in the past. So the instability of sustaining yourself in this way is no new news.

Sometimes I think our people are a bit retarded.

I would agree with you, but even rich people commit suicide, not just farmers from Punjab, the issues are bigger than simply Maya.

[jkvlondon]

If the sector is so unproductive for so many, farmers need to diversify and make livings in other ways. There is another problem with excess pride, too much spending money on superfluous stuff because Panjabis (especially the jats) love to 'floss'. Then feeling worthless or diminished because you can't do this.

Then also this whole excess pride of owning land and being a farmer - mate if the trade is not making you enough money to survive, do something else. A lot of farmers have nice plots they could use in other ways. Stubbornly sticking to something that doesn't pay is nuts.

Panjab completely lacks in creativity when it comes to economy. Need to get away from farming. For God's sake, it was always a crap living; that's why so many farmers were compelled to join the British army to help make ends meet in the past. So the instability of sustaining yourself in this way is no new news.

Sometimes I think our people are a bit retarded.

problem is manmade correction Badal made ....he has encouraged punjabi farmers to invest in agrochemical intensive farming methods which originally were subsidised in the late 70s and early 80s under the'green revolution' instead of traditional organic methods . How to diversify field when it is nigh on impossible to create a new business without corrupt police bullying you for their 'protection' money ?

I know how bad it is because my Masi sold up and went back to Hindia to start a restaurant/bakery in Jallandhar after trying a gym/beauty salon t, she fixed up the frontage and pavement and the competition called the police on her and sent in a bulldozer and destroyed the tiled frontage . Then the college educated staff stole from the premises, the cooks stole ingredients to run their own catering business on the side . In the end she lost loads of money and had to come back here to have a way of living. This broke her full on 'jai bharat' attitude ...

To open a business there is impossible for decent sized places on an individual basis if you refuse to play ball with corrupt $h1te cops and officials. The only way is if it is a branch of a business based outside the country and is of a nature where there is no material goods involved .

It is not sufficient to say just try something else , maybe you don't realise the ones who are farmers are usually the sons who sacrificed their dreams to put their younger brothers sisters and children through education. The ones who are trapped by the need for fertilisers because their soils is now dead without because their is no humus /mineral balance left and the prices are increasing exorbitantly . It is all a long term land grab game . They don't mind turning Punjab into a dust bowl by reducing our water table and doing this to our farmers , my proposal would be to put daswand in the west to forming a loan facility for farmers provided they take up organic farming methods again and use water preservation techniques like mulching or no-dig farming. support the planting of plant species which will absorb the pollutants from factories and farms ...then removing them properly .

[dallysingh101]

I would agree with you, but even rich people commit suicide, not just farmers from Punjab, the issues are bigger than simply Maya.

I know, I thought we were talking about Panjabi farmers in particular though?

Other people, like celebrities or super rich folk often inadvertently surround themselves with sycophants who are just hanging out with 'success'. When they get older, and less good looking, or something happens that stops the gravy train, these people drop them like hot potatoes.

It's like a lot of these rich people are surrounded by hordes but are really lonely inside because they've never or rarely experienced genuine closeness with people.

There are loads of reasons for people committing suicide, but in the Panjabi farmer's case I think it is maya or economic.

[Ranjeet01]

With rising aspirations come increasing expectations (particularly in Punjab).

In Punjab (in the West as well to a lesser degree), you are pressured to follow the crowd and meet society's expectations.

If your peers are deemed to be meeting goals, you want to meet those goals too and if you cannot meet those expectations then it can be quite gutting. You feel like a failure. Your family will point this out about this flana or that flana and rub it in your face.

If you are meeting those expectations, you can get caught on the never ending treadmill of meeting new expectations to keep up with the "Joneses" (or should I say Johals).This could mean degree or better grades, bigger house, new car, flashy wedding, getting visa out of Punjab to Australia or Canada.

You are never "Santokh", you are caught up in "Maya".

[jkvlondon]

With rising aspirations come increasing expectations (particularly in Punjab).

In Punjab (in the West as well to a lesser degree), you are pressured to follow the crowd and meet society's expectations.

If your peers are deemed to be meeting goals, you want to meet those goals too and if you cannot meet those expectations then it can be quite gutting. You feel like a failure. Your family will point this out about this flana or that flana and rub it in your face.

If you are meeting those expectations, you can get caught on the never ending treadmill of meeting new expectations to keep up with the "Joneses" (or should I say Johals).This could mean degree or better grades, bigger house, new car, flashy wedding, getting visa out of Punjab to Australia or Canada.

You are never "Santokh", you are caught up in "Maya".

maybe the spotlight is on the wrong type of keeping up , how great would the peace of mind and chardi kala of the people if they tried to read more bani than they did previously in the past year, month, week ; that they helped more people in need than they did last week ...we came naked and will go the same unless we gain kamai of naam and sewa to cover our nangej before we reach darbar...