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45 minutes ago, BhForce said:

So, friend, are you saying that once we adopt Sikhism, we have to dispense with all of the accumulated wisdom of the ages, and all that we possibly have to guide is is explicit injunctions of Gurbani, and anything not explicitly enjoined there we can do?

accumulated wisdom ? what like women are lower status humans , you need to tie threads to your wrist to protect yourself , that the birth of a male is worth celebrating more than a female ? That dheeaan is a part of our culture and should be celebrated despite the fact it was a shameful activity used to mask selling out your daughters? There is very little punjabi wisdom beyond the level of common decency worth mentioning.

As for this young lady , she is being ridiculous a seveteen year old guy is immature , without prospects as he needs to complete his sixth form education, and she is being a bit creepy going after a child . 

 

 

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1 minute ago, jkvlondon said:

accumulated wisdom ? what like women are lower status humans , you need to tie threads to your wrist to protect yourself , that the birth of a male is worth celebrating more than a female ? That dheeaan is a part of our culture and should be celebrated despite the fact it was a shameful activity used to mask selling out your daughters? There is very little punjabi wisdom beyond the level of common decency worth mentioning

OK, so you're saying all that we possibly have to guide is is explicit injunctions of Gurbani, and anything not explicitly enjoined there we can do?

Is that correct?

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3 minutes ago, BhForce said:

OK, so you're saying all that we possibly have to guide is is explicit injunctions of Gurbani, and anything not explicitly enjoined there we can do?

Is that correct?

no we have sikh cultural wisdom from our history ...which is known and shared that is  another source of guidance , also the rehitnamey give us more practical guidance and form a grounding to our ethical standards . This woman is deluded in her infatuation 

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5 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

As for this young lady , she is being ridiculous a seveteen year old guy is immature , without prospects as he needs to complete his sixth form education, and she is being a bit creepy going after a child . 

You just added this paragraph after I responded to your post, which changes the entire basis of where you're coming from without assigning a reason in the "Reason for edit" box. It's a bit difficult to have a conversation this way.

6 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

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Just now, BhForce said:

You just added this paragraph after I responded to your post, which changes the entire basis of where you're coming from without assigning a reason in the "Reason for edit" box. It's a bit difficult to have a conversation this way.

 

my ancient computer is playing up sorry ... not trying to trip anyone up ... she really is not thinking straight or in the correct gurmat way ... 

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4 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

my ancient computer is playing up sorry ... not trying to trip anyone up ... she really is not thinking straight or in the correct gurmat way ... 

OK, no problem.

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10 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

There is very little punjabi wisdom beyond the level of common decency worth mentioning

Seems to be a bit puzzling why you self-hate Punjabi culture and society, a culture and society in which our Gurus were born in, lived in, and accepted, except for specified Hindu beliefs such as janeu and prohibition on widow remarriage. 

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Just now, BhForce said:

Seems to be a bit puzzling why you self-hate Punjabi culture and society, a culture and society in which our Gurus were born in, lived in, and accepted, except for specified Hindu beliefs such as janeu and prohibition on widow remarriage. 

Guru ji also rejected the Punjabi culture of their time which included purdah/ghoondh kadna, kuddi maarna , Sutak and other pollution ideas associated with normal female biological functions, cursing or beating women , end of pati parmeshwar attitude towards human husband, end of superstitious beliefs which made women's lives hell, promoting women as points of spiritual knowledge as opposed to standard idea of destroyers of faiths , ending caste based segregation in a time when people would be killed for offending the system. 

I don't hate Punjab just this constant dragging backwards into hindu mat of our people when Guru Sahiban gave us freedom and wisdom to follow which is light years ahead of even Western mat.

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2 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

I don't hate Punjab just this constant dragging backwards into hindu mat of our people when Guru Sahiban gave us freedom and wisdom to follow which is light years ahead of even Western mat.

The stuff you mentioned is mostly stuff with specific sanction in Hindu society specifically overturned by Guru Sahib. I'm just pushing back the Punjabi-hatred (self-hatred) of some of our people while simultaneously being unquestioning accepters of Western culture as just normal common sense.

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Just now, BhForce said:

The stuff you mentioned is mostly stuff with specific sanction in Hindu society specifically overturned by Guru Sahib. I'm just pushing back the Punjabi-hatred (self-hatred) of some of our people while simultaneously being unquestioning accepters of Western culture as just normal common sense.

I'd much rather stick to Guru ji's mat because it is the middle path , free from the pollution of SJW nutters/elite agendas of the west and the oppression of ancient tribalistic chauvanisms and misogyny of eastern faiths.

I would like to see a strong sikh literary/artistic rennaisance coming up but that is down to people seeing the true heart of punjab.

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35 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

the oppression of ancient tribalistic chauvanisms and misogyny of eastern faiths.

Would this include the oppressive, patriarchal and misogynist institution of marriage?

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Just now, BhForce said:

Would this include the oppressive, patriarchal and misogynist institution of marriage?

no sikh marriage is not that ...whereas muslim, hindu, jewish, christian

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Just now, jkvlondon said:

no sikh marriage is not that ...whereas muslim, hindu, jewish, christian

It seems that you're saying that something that Guru Sahib did would be something that we would emulate.

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1 minute ago, BhForce said:

It seems that you're saying that something that Guru Sahib did would be something that we would emulate.

well if you are a sikh you would follow the path laid out, yes?Besides like the living examples illustrate following the other ways lead to so much destruction, hardship and losing the true focus on life's mission

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2 hours ago, BhForce said:

So, friend, are you saying that once we adopt Sikhism, we have to dispense with all of the accumulated wisdom of the ages, and all that we possibly have to guide is is explicit injunctions of Gurbani, and anything not explicitly enjoined there we can do?

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying, if it conflicts with Gurmat it isn't right. A good example is in Punjab you can find some Amritdharis still practicing caste, it's not our, (Sikh), culture but rather their, (Punjabi), culture. 

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