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[Guest Singh01]

I'll cut to the chase. To those who are Amritharis, is it true that those whom take Amrit and merge with God are able to save their ancestors and future generations (up to 21 either way). Did Guru Nanak say this and another thing is would future generations still be liberated even if they don't live a good life (God forbid). 

Thank you for reading. 

[Guest What]

On 6/21/2019 at 8:19 PM, Guest Singh01 said:

I'll cut to the chase. To those who are Amritharis, is it true that those whom take Amrit and merge with God are able to save their ancestors and future generations (up to 21 either way). Did Guru Nanak say this and another thing is would future generations still be liberated even if they don't live a good life (God forbid). 

Thank you for reading. 

Amrit is internal. When you take it, it's just symbolic of the inner journey. You can perform the inner journey without actually taking it 

[Not2Cool2Argue 474]

You have to merge with Waheguru. Actually be a sant. And once u r a sant. U will save many souks not just those of ur family. But taking amrit is just the first step, enrolling is school. To pass and that too with the highest marks. Is very hard in sikhi. Gurbani itself says only virle, rare ones make it across the ocean. 

[Redoptics 152]

What you are talking about came from Guru Gobind Singh Ji 

[Guest Adidas]

On ‎7‎/‎24‎/‎2019 at 11:40 PM, Guest What said:

Amrit is internal. When you take it, it's just symbolic of the inner journey. You can perform the inner journey without actually taking it 

should do both, but the important one is the inner dehi and not the physical dehi. Amrit has to be stimulated from within and anhad naad has to be reached within. 

2 hours ago, Not2Cool2Argue said:

You have to merge with Waheguru. Actually be a sant. And once u r a sant. U will save many souks not just those of ur family. But taking amrit is just the first step, enrolling is school. To pass and that too with the highest marks. Is very hard in sikhi. Gurbani itself says only virle, rare ones make it across the ocean. 

Sant avastha actually starts when seeker starts to listen to naad outside of maya.  In chautha padh. Sant avastha still has to cross bhavsagar .  Saving the souls/family is quite complicated because as one progresses past the second bhavsagar in sunn, then akath khatha and gyan follow/ steps to-> brahmgyaan.   By this time one will know the sukham kheal and past lives of themselves and family.  Reasons for sanjog etc... Depending on what lok(plane) other souls maybe, the gurmukh can save them. By this time, gurmukh will also know if they were born to  do this task. It's not just a bonus that you get by doing Simran. It has much deeper purpose.

[BhForce 1,097]

On 6/21/2019 at 10:19 AM, Guest Singh01 said:

I'll cut to the chase. To those who are Amritharis, is it true that those whom take Amrit and merge with God are able to save their ancestors and future generations (up to 21 either way). Did Guru Nanak say this and another thing is would future generations still be liberated even if they don't live a good life (God forbid). 

Thank you for reading. 

Why do you care? Did you meet your great-great-great-great-grandfather, and you'll be sad if he's not in Sachkhand?

Guru ji says to devote yourself to Gurbani.

Would you not have devoted yourself to Gurbani if your ancestors were not going to be saved? So that's the only reason for you to read Gurbani?

[Guest Singh]

In short; yes.

Taking amrit is one of the first steps. Through naam simran, when one reaches the stage of bahram giani, then your 21 generations get automatically liberated. (It’s 21 past generations and 21 future generations). It works by blood, wherever your blood can be traced to is included as a ‘generation’.

A side note, in Sukhmanai sahib guruji says ‘sadh kai sang sab kul udare’ by doing sangat of the liberated ones all of your generations are saved. Cool right? Just finding a ture sadh(saint) is difficult 

[T_Singh 12]

On 7/25/2019 at 7:40 AM, Guest What said:

Amrit is internal. When you take it, it's just symbolic of the inner journey. You can perform the inner journey without actually taking it 

Can you explain what you meant by performing the inner journey without taking Amrith? 

[RajKaregaKhalsa1 304]

On 7/25/2019 at 7:40 AM, Guest What said:

Amrit is internal. When you take it, it's just symbolic of the inner journey. You can perform the inner journey without actually taking it 

।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖ਼ਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫ਼ਤਹਿ।

 Although I have not been blessed with Amrit, I have to disagree with you. Yes Amrit is internal but it not symbolic. It is you giving yourself to the Guru and giving up hope on the world. It's there where you actually get Naam Drir from Guru Sahib. You can read a book by Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh ji meaning of Amrit.

।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖ਼ਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫ਼ਤਹਿ।

Edited July 27 by RajKaregaKhalsa1

[MisterrSingh 3,281]

On 6/21/2019 at 6:19 PM, Guest Singh01 said:

I'll cut to the chase. To those who are Amritharis, is it true that those whom take Amrit and merge with God are able to save their ancestors and future generations (up to 21 either way). Did Guru Nanak say this and another thing is would future generations still be liberated even if they don't live a good life (God forbid). 

Thank you for reading. 

The one who took Amrit has an uphill struggle to merge with God based everything he or she does after becoming Gursikh, so I'd suggest the idea that future peeriya being granted an automatic pass through zero effort of their own is the kind of tall-tale that's sold to gullible Sikhs back home to induce them into joining the ranks of the baptised. Also, I suppose it's important to define the definition of 'save' in this context. 

Edited July 27 by MisterrSingh

[Guest WTH??]

Please tell me you're joking? If Guru Gobind Singh Ji had to take Amrit di daat - surely there is a HUGE importance...Guru Ji - Akasl Jot Himself saw the relevance of Amrit yet here is you a random 'Harinder' who is saying it is just a 'symbol' of our inner journey.... Either you are a missionary (quite certain) or a utter tw%t! 

I heard a Katha once that when Sant Attar Singh Ji's Mata Ji (mother) passed away and reached Dargaah and tried entering Sachkhand she was refused by the Peredaar Singhs. She exclaimed "Do you know who I am? I am Sant Ataar Singh's mum!" - The Singh said 'Mata Ji who never took Amrit di daat you cannot enter Sachkhand - it doesn't matter who you are. Mata Ji was given a few more days of life in which she took Amrit and then left her physical form for Sachkhand.

 

Another saakhi once a Gurmukh sitting in the hajuri of Guru Gobind Singh Ji was absolutely DRENCHED in love while reading Gurbani. Absolute RASS and his ehvasta in total Anand. Guru Ji seeing his Sikh reading Gurbani with so much devotion went and hugged the Sikh and said  'Gurmukha! You have given me so much peace with how much piaar and satkar you have read Gurbani! What would you like? I am willing to give you all you desire! The Sikh placed his head at the feet of Guru Ji and said "Satgur Ji if you have placed your compassionate hand on my head and offered me this opportunity then I ask for nothing but that you give me a spot to sit right next to your charan (feet) in Sachkhand so as I am never away from your Sangat even after I die."

Guru ji raised the Sikh to his feet and said I appreciate your devotion and hold respect and appreciate your piaar but this is one request that cannot be granted.... The Sikh taken aback and in shock quiveringly asked "Guru Ji why? Why do you refuse me?" Guru Ji clasped both hands of the Sikh and said placed a arm around his shoulder and said 'Puttar (son) I do not refuse you. But you have not taken Amrit di daat. Without taking Amrit you cannot even achieve the space of a needle in Sachkhand. Ask for Amrit di daat from the Panj Pyare and upon taking Amrit become a Guru wala and I will never leave you in this world or the hereafter.'

Further ANY Mahapursh in today's age will tell you taking Amrit di daat is the FIRST STEP in Sikhi. Consider it a registration into the school of Sikhi. Keeping your rehat and keeping a good jeevan (abiding the rules and living according to Gurbani and the rehat maryada) is your education and passing the exams. Whether or not we graduate from the school will be determinded in dargaah - where our account will be read.

So don't you dare belittle Amrit. If you have no faith in Sikhi and Amrit do not take the faith of others'. Remain under your rock you fruitcake.

[Singh1989 141]

No to future gens being saved even if they fail to Naam Jap. Wha happens is, future gens are actually Bhagats themselves. HOWEVEEERRR... YOU must reach a Sant Level yourself! NOT just take Amrit and thas it, the end. After Amrit it's Sangat, Simran, Seva and staying under Hukam. THEN future gens are guaranteed to become Bhagats themselves... (more or less).

[Guest Amrit]

On 6/21/2019 at 8:19 PM, Guest Singh01 said:

I'll cut to the chase. To those who are Amritharis, is it true that those whom take Amrit and merge with God are able to save their ancestors and future generations (up to 21 either way). Did Guru Nanak say this and another thing is would future generations still be liberated even if they don't live a good life (God forbid). 

Thank you for reading. 

You know the real Amrit is within right. 

The outer is simply symbolic reflection of the inner. Being amritshak was meant to be a fast track to liberation. Now it's become more of an egoistic fashion for the large part. 

[Guest Singhni133]

So if 'outer Amrit' is just 'symbolic' - explain how there have been instances of deceased individual(s) who have physically risen from death upon receiving Amrit droplets? Yes there is Amrit within us but don't you dare belittle Amrit dee Daat. You appear to one of those so called doctors/authors who read books by missionary british/white arse lickers and make out finalise as everything is black and white. Sikhi and every aspect within Sikhi is what you make it.

One man's water is another man's Jal or Amrit. You have terrible bhaag - to question Amrit - the very first step into Sikhi. I feel sorry for you.

[Guest Truth]

Just to add, I’ve walked into the Gurdwarra and the gym is have literally gawked at me, or out me down saying I look horrible, I’ve walked the streets and men said the same thing either or. Amritshak guys have called me ugly, this is sexism at its peak by those who are supposed to propagate human equality, equal rights, respect and good fair treatment of all. 

 

At at least those who claim to walk the path shouldn’t engage in these sexist behaviors and work to operate at, at least a normal level of human decency. That would be a start.