India compiling list of 'Sikh Diaspora' residing in Germany

[Ranjeet01 1,892]

The Indian Govt knows there have a lot of opposition from the Sikh Diaspora, it seems obvious they would collect data so they would identify threats and monitor and track.

They probably are not only not focusing on our diaspora, they are probably doing the same with other communities. I am sure the Pakistani diaspora is being monitored and tracked.

They are probably doing the same with Indian Christian missionaries as well.

[Kau89r8 299]

 

[Kau89r8 299]

10 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

The Indian Govt knows there have a lot of opposition from the Sikh Diaspora, it seems obvious they would collect data so they would identify threats and monitor and track.

They probably are not only not focusing on our diaspora, they are probably doing the same with other communities. I am sure the Pakistani diaspora is being monitored and tracked.

They are probably doing the same with Indian Christian missionaries as well.

No they after the Sikhs more specifically they been doing this since 80's.

So they can find the ones on the fringe call' Khalistani' terrorists etc 

 

[Ranjeet01 1,892]

11 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

No they after the Sikhs more specifically they been doing this since 80's.

So they can find the ones on the fringe call' Khalistani' terrorists etc 

 

We know they have been after our people since the 1980's.

It is just they have become more sophisticated in their methods.

Stands to reason that third party companies are used to keep and manage data for western clients that they won't do the same for other types of data.

It is quite solipsistic to think that we are that special to the Indian Govt. 

Though they do see us a threat. We are not the only threat. They have bigger threats (like China)

You got to be less emotional and more rational, it will help to make you think more clearly. 

There are games within games within games being played. 

If you cannot understand the game, you can't win.

[Kau89r8 299]

54 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

We know they have been after our people since the 1980's.

It is just they have become more sophisticated in their methods.

Stands to reason that third party companies are used to keep and manage data for western clients that they won't do the same for other types of data.

It is quite solipsistic to think that we are that special to the Indian Govt. 

Though they do see us a threat. We are not the only threat. They have bigger threats (like China)

You got to be less emotional and more rational, it will help to make you think more clearly. 

There are games within games within games being played. 

If you cannot understand the game, you can't win.

Game is very simple...

$$$ = power ......Hindus Brahmans have that 

India is also super economic power 5th largest in the world plenty interests and political ties.

We dont.....only they want us to keep giving our heads and dying for their countries. 

[Ranjeet01 1,892]

8 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

Game is very simple...

$$$ = power ......Hindus Brahmans have that 

India is also super economic power 5th largest in the world plenty interests and political ties.

We dont.....only they want us to keep giving our heads and dying for their countries. 

If $$$ power and Brahmin power was all that was needed then India would not have been conquered again and again for 2000 years.

India was 1st or 2nd economic superpower and they were still conquered. 

It is not just about $$$, it is how it is used.

And there are other levers of power as well.

India at the moment is code coolie capital of the world. They are not even that good compared to some other countries. That is not economic superpower status. It is just a cheap country.

[Kau89r8 299]

@Ranjeet01

So what are your views what can we Sikhs can / should do?

[Ranjeet01 1,892]

40 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

@Ranjeet01

So what are your views what can we Sikhs can / should do?

It is hard to ascertain what the Sangat wants and needs.

The quam needs to find some points to agree on, some common ground:

Here are some points we probably agree on

We are a separate nation.

We are unique people on the subcontinent, we look different, we act different, we have different temperament. 

We don't have much in common with the rest of the Union.

Our needs are not met by this union. 

Our rights are not met by this union.

We are seen and treated differently by this Union except when it is comes to defending the Union.

The Union uses us. They exploit us.

We are a fiercely independent people.

We do things our own way,

We think we do things better if we get out of this union.

Are there any benefits to stay in this Union. 

These are some things I can think of, needs more embellishing. 

 

[MisterrSingh 3,913]

3 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

They are probably doing the same with Indian Christian missionaries as well.

If I was responsible for long-term Indian geopolitics and social engineering, I'd weaponise the Christian missionaries against the Sikhs. At this moment in time it would be a home run for them. Some of that is happening right now, tbh.

[Ranjeet01 1,892]

7 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

If I was responsible for long-term Indian geopolitics and social engineering, I'd weaponise the Christian missionaries against the Sikhs. At this moment in time it would be a home run for them. Some of that is happening right now, tbh.

I'd guess it depends on the short term and the long term.

Short term, a Christian Punjab may quell resistance. But long term, the Indian elites would be back to square one.

There are foreign powers that would like to break India. A Christian Punjab would galvanise this with more foreign backing.

A Christian state on the north west, small christian states on the north east, India's military would be split all over India. They might find themselves spread thin.

However, if you are talking about divide and rule tactics and keep Christian missionaries and Sikhs occupied then yes, I see where you are coming from.

But missionaries are a bigger threat to the Indian Union than us Sikhs because they have infiltrated more states.

[singhdalbir 55]

Straight from the horses mouth.

[Ranjeet01 1,892]

I think we should be keeping details as well.

Two can play at that game.

[Punjabiwolves 638]

I dont think India Govt has the power to hold such details.  The UK and EU would block it and it would be illegal baed on the data protection act  . 

as for what Rani01 said about Sikhs being different  people thats not sure. Sikhism is not exclusive to punjabis's they are Sikhs from different  ethic  backgrounds . Sikhism is a religion not an ethnicity. Punjabi is an ethnicity. come on folks its basic stuff . you should know all this.   

[Punjabiwolves 638]

Their is too much Bhramin Bahsing on here  some of it its mythical and plain wrong. dont get me wrong thier are some nasty crafty Bhramins out there and despite being one I dont really get along with them expect my family.(why are not Bhramins in the traditional sense as you guys might think) 
 

so let me debug some of those myths 

1) Brahmins  control India ? far from it , they are make u 2% of the population and dont get any special rights and reservations. 

2) Hindus have it easy in India? Err no thier is alot of Hindu phobia in India  . Hindus easily get labeled an extremists if they speak up. they are many poor Hindus living in poverty. Thier are many Hindu majority states below the national poverty line   .

3) All Bharmins and Hindus are  the same ? err why are not. The cast system is bullcrap and outdated many young Bharmins in India  dont fellow the cast system  or even stict Hindus' these days. in the Uk many put their ethnicity 1st ask  Punjabi ,Gurjarti etc in essence Hinduism  is not a religion , Ethnicity, nationality its just a way of life.    

Now back to me not get along with Bharamins . I dont know why maybe cause they seem snobbish and judgmental?. I dont get along with Gurjati's too. 

 

 

[Kau89r8 299]

1 hour ago, Punjabiwolves said:

Their is too much Bhramin Bahsing on here  some of it its mythical and plain wrong. dont get me wrong thier are some nasty crafty Bhramins out there and despite being one I dont really get along with them expect my family.(why are not Bhramins in the traditional sense as you guys might think) 
 

 

 

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