imran khan gives control of Kartarpur Gurdwara Sahib to Muslim body

[shastarSingh 685]

https://www.oneindia.com/international/taken-away-from-psgpc-imran-khan-govt-gives-control-of-kartarpur-gurudwara-to-muslim-body-3172591.html

[Ranjeet01 2,096]

Political power means everything.

This is what happens when other people have power over your sovereignty. You will also be beholden to them.

Even then, they can take everything from you.

If you have political power, the only one that can take it away from you is Maharaj.

[ChardikalaUK 189]

Never ever trust suls.

[MisterrSingh 4,729]

I said last year, don't fall for the Muslim charm tactics when Sikhs were practically falling over themselves to matha tek to Imran Khan. You WILL be betrayed. One year on... there you go. 

We need our own country. Will it happen? Maybe not. But that doesn't negate its importance.

Edit: We need awareness and understanding of what's happening to us before we get a piece of land. Most of our people think everything is wonderful, and the future is rosy. 

[Kau89r8 421]

And RSS hinduvastas are destroying Sikhi and Punjab on the other end of border...

Wish we had Sant Ji with us today

Wish we had our Khalsa Raj back.... 

 

[Kau89r8 421]

1 hour ago, ChardikalaUK said:

Never ever trust suls.

or bhramins 

[shastarSingh 685]

Indian media is spreading wrong information.

[MisterrSingh 4,729]

1 hour ago, Kau89r8 said:

And RSS hinduvastas are destroying Sikhi and Punjab on the other end of border...

Wish we had Sant Ji with us today

Wish we had our Khalsa Raj back.... 

 

Any desire to do something yourself or just going to pray for a saviour to arrive and do all the hard lifting? Then what happens when his human, perishable form comes to the end of its natural life, and his associates and confidantes fragment and dissolve into bickering factions? Back to square one? Then wait for another saviour to arrive?

[Ranjeet01 2,096]

4 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:

And RSS hinduvastas are destroying Sikhi and Punjab on the other end of border...

Wish we had Sant Ji with us today

Wish we had our Khalsa Raj back.... 

 

Hindus and Muslims understand power and politics. 

We don't.

What do you think it means by Khalsa Raj?

Maharaj helps those who help themselves.

 

[GurjantGnostic 1,042]

1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Hindus and Muslims understand power and politics. 

We don't.

What do you think it means by Khalsa Raj?

Maharaj helps those who help themselves.

 

Khalsa Raj is only Khalsa Raj if done according to Gurmat. There is Gurmat and Manmat. Don't idealize the devils ways. 

[Kau89r8 421]

 we do understand politics otherwise 84 wouldn't have happened and they wouldn't be destroying Sikhi and Punjab..they wouldn't be killing us

Just it all sucks how much suffering we have to go through ..and our basic rights are being stripped from us..

But we got to keep hope in Vaheguru and have faith ...

[Ranjeet01 2,096]

34 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Khalsa Raj is only Khalsa Raj if done according to Gurmat. There is Gurmat and Manmat. Don't idealize the devils ways. 

How do you think power was seized during the times of the misls?

You seize on opportunities. 

Seizing on opportunities is not necessarily manmat. 

Building and going out there to create the apparatus that comes with creating Khalsa Raj is Gurmat. 

Being proactive rather than reactive is Gurmat.

[GurjantGnostic 1,042]

1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

How do you think power was seized during the times of the misls?

You seize on opportunities. 

Seizing on opportunities is not necessarily manmat. 

Building and going out there to create the apparatus that comes with creating Khalsa Raj is Gurmat. 

Being proactive rather than reactive is Gurmat.

So let's talk more about that. How would you describe the ascension of the Khalsa around the time of the Gurus?

[Ranjeet01 2,096]

55 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

So let's talk more about that. How would you describe the ascension of the Khalsa around the time of the Gurus?

The ascension happened when we took on the temporal element and combined it with the spiritual element and became sant-sipahis.

The adoption of the temporal side is when we became sant-sipahis rather than merely sants.

It made us more complete.

 

 

 

[MisterrSingh 4,729]

3 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Khalsa Raj is only Khalsa Raj if done according to Gurmat. There is Gurmat and Manmat. Don't idealize the devils ways. 

Gurmat prescribes Sarbat da Bhalla, "For the Benefit of All."

Gurmat endorses the actions of the venerable Bhai Khanaiya, the Sikh who tended to his own side's opponents on the battlefield, nursing them back to health and allowing them to recover and rejoin the fight, rendering the efforts of his fellow Sikhs fruitless, no doubt costing Sikh warrior lives in the process. Manmat, according to Gurbani, is the opposite of the actions of Bhai Khanaiya, i.e. allowing the enemy to die.

So exactly how do we win this if the above is Gurmat, because unless I'm missing something, what Bhai Khanaiya did was undoubtedly Gurmat, but if every Sikh is expected to follow that example in similar situations, then there is simply no point in even waking up in the morning.