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You're marrying the love of your life (supposedly), and you're more worried about whether if you're walking behind, beside or in front of him. Rather than booking the nearest wedding date available in

We are Sikhs not Cultural Marxists. If you have it the traditional you are both equally distant from Maharaj. If you have both people level then one is going to be further away. You adapt to

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa , Waheguru ji ki Fateh , firstly what you are doing is throwing out sikh culture and gurmat for some supposed 'modern' and WISER ???? way , in some mistaken impression you k

If some crazy thing goes down like I said I heard above I think we will be surprised the variety of people who will not say that even if it means death and those that will. You would have seemingly religous and totally non religous seeming people walking both ways. 

If violence ever comes Degh Tegh Fateh. Especially our Bhenji. Please make it so we can recognize you. 

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Oh and get this. Apparently there was a great slaughter at the first thanksgiving that broke out over exactly this, and that thanskgiving is symbolic of that after the prolonged violence stemming from that subsided. Call it..a ritual meal. To remember that by. 

And this type of um..greater religous freedom in the new world was that the mayflower pilgrims brought. 

Kalyug bro. Like you never wake up and expect to have that conversation. 

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On 3/6/2021 at 3:16 PM, Sikhi4Ever said:

Would be interesting to see what are your "Firm Traditionalist" views. Now don't do ghosting traditionalist male ji. 

not sure what you're trying to say?

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i think what women who object to the setup need to understand is that it is also a position of humility for the male too to be walking in front with the female behind him.  its not subjugation.

if they were walking side by side it would be like a happy couple striding around rather then the solemnity a religious ceremony.

in religious ceremonies we have to show humility before ach other and God.

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On 2/24/2021 at 5:24 PM, Guest manjeetayjagjeet said:

Sat sri akal, everyone!

I'm just having some trouble wrapping my head around Sikh society. As a woman, I am proud to be Sikh because it advocates for equality among the genders. However, my faith has been suffering due to societal thinking, especially here in Canada. My fiancé and I are getting married next year and we are having a lot of trouble finding a raagi jattha. Why? Because both of us (and our families) want us to walk beside each other instead of the traditional bride behind groom way for the lavaan. People are simply unwilling to do it and those that can, are crazy expensive.

Our traditions have been heavily borrowed from Hinduism but without all the fuss. We have even changed the way we think about Sikh marriage, as the bride and groom get married together to God. So then why do I have to walk behind him? To make things worse, I have heard some really sexist things from some of the raagis who explained why I must walk behind him. I am so disappointed in our people.

I guess I wanted some more opinions on this. Am I missing some pertinent information? But if anyone has more information about this or raagis who are more open minded, I'd love to hear about it!

Thank you!

You do realise that your post is extremely sexist which Sikhism abandoned over half a century ago? What you don’t understand is that even the first Sikh Guru married in the same manner(GPG) in Batala.  Try to read  the Sikh literature in case of any doubts.

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On 2/25/2021 at 4:24 AM, Guest manjeetayjagjeet said:

Sat sri akal, everyone!

I'm just having some trouble wrapping my head around Sikh society. As a woman, I am proud to be Sikh because it advocates for equality among the genders. However, my faith has been suffering due to societal thinking, especially here in Canada. My fiancé and I are getting married next year and we are having a lot of trouble finding a raagi jattha. Why? Because both of us (and our families) want us to walk beside each other instead of the traditional bride behind groom way for the lavaan. People are simply unwilling to do it and those that can, are crazy expensive.

Our traditions have been heavily borrowed from Hinduism but without all the fuss. We have even changed the way we think about Sikh marriage, as the bride and groom get married together to God. So then why do I have to walk behind him? To make things worse, I have heard some really sexist things from some of the raagis who explained why I must walk behind him. I am so disappointed in our people.

I guess I wanted some more opinions on this. Am I missing some pertinent information? But if anyone has more information about this or raagis who are more open minded, I'd love to hear about it!

Thank you!

wjkk wjkf bhenji

does it really make it any difference who walks in front, behind or beside each other. 

we all believe in equality and never noticed this thing until you mentioned it.

as you said you both get married together to God and waheguru is not discriminating, then why to tress about these things. 

if you would like to do it your way to please your thinking, then it is still ok. and Vaheguru will be happy either way, I am sure!

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On 3/6/2021 at 5:08 PM, puzzled said:

Your aren't a woman though, and if women don't like it then its their problem. 

Like I said, in bani Guru ji describes himself as a Sodhi, his fathers clan. He then describes the genealogy of the Sodhi clan. He doesn't mention his mothers family or genealogy. 

Bani mentions Guru Nanak Dev ji as a member of the Bedi clan, his mothers lineage or clan is not mentioned. Same with Guru Amar Das ji and its the same with Guru Ramdas Ji. 

We as Sikhs then should follow suit and use the same family structure and order. I don't understand what is so difficult about that? That is why its the bride that gets married into the grooms family. That is why Guru Gobind Singh ji said that marry your daughter into a family where Sikhi is practiced.

You can't make it any clearer than that. 

If women have a problem with that then it is their problem. The doors are flung open, no one is telling them to have Anand Karaj or be Sikhs. 

Having read a few of your posts before I am very surprised you take this stance.

If you marry a Gursikh from a Gursikh family you would expect her to all but abandon her family for yours..warts and all? Would you not want your children to spend the majority of their time around her family, in their sangat as opposed to your family?

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