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Within a week, there has been on national news, there has been a vigil which turned into police brutality, it has been brought up in parliament and they have a suspect.

This has happened so quickly because it is a white woman.

I do not like the victim hierarchy/ inter-sectionality game.

How long before some women of colour writes in the Guardian how if this was a brown or black woman and that they have been excluded out of this discussion?

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3 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Within a week, there has been on national news, there has been a vigil which turned into police brutality, it has been brought up in parliament and they have a suspect.

This has happened so quickly because it is a white woman.

I do not like the victim hierarchy/ inter-sectionality game.

How long before some women of colour writes in the Guardian how if this was a brown or black woman and that they have been excluded out of this discussion?

It's true, though, lol. A photogenic, middle-class, professional white lady is murdered by a cop, and they're proposing curfews and house arrest for every single man in the country, and an implicit anger towards the police for letting it happen. Would they dare suggest anything similar if it was a rough-looking black or Indian woman? Not a chance. Everyone's thinking it, but for the moment the rawness of the crime is preventing anyone from articulating it. I've no doubt Ash Sarkar or Afua Hirsch has drafted a potential article pointing out what we're talking out but she won't be submitting it just yet. ?

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21 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

It's true, though, lol. A photogenic, middle-class, professional white lady is murdered by a cop, and they're proposing curfews and house arrest for every single man in the country, and an implicit anger towards the police for letting it happen. Would they dare suggest anything similar if it was a rough-looking black or Indian woman? Not a chance. Everyone's thinking it, but for the moment the rawness of the crime is preventing anyone from articulating it. I've no doubt Ash Sarkar or Afua Hirsch has drafted a potential article pointing out what we're talking out but she won't be submitting it just yet. ?

The place where it happened is Clapham Common. I think it has a history of abduction and it is in a very affluent part of London.

These type of "commons" normally have other things that go on between men of a particular sexual orientation particularly if there are public toilets around after dark.

I think there is a level of hubris amongst middle class white women here that a women of colour would not entertain.

But I reckon like yourself that Afua and Ash's hit piece will appear. It's only a matter of time.

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1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

The place where it happened is Clapham Common. I think it has a history of abduction and it is in a very affluent part of London.

These type of "commons" normally have other things that go on between men of a particular sexual orientation particularly if there are public toilets around after dark.

I think there is a level of hubris amongst middle class white women here that a women of colour would not entertain.

It's depressing that what's in bold above will never be discussed in the public sphere out of fear of causing offense even though people are aware of these things on a personal basis. It's retarding thought, almost encouraging existing in a false or delusional state of mind. 

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18 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

It's depressing that what's in bold above will never be discussed in the public sphere out of fear of causing offense even though people are aware of these things on a personal basis. It's retarding thought, almost encouraging existing in a false or delusional state of mind. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jody_Dobrowski

Clapham Common has a reputation as a place for men seeking anonymous sex with other men in public places.[9] When Welsh politician Ron Davies was robbed at knife point in 1998 after he gave a lift to strangers he had met in the park, there was speculation that the incident involved "cruising"; Davies resigned his position in the UK government, denying the incident had anything to do with drugs or sex.[10][11][12] There have been several attacks on men in the vicinity of the park, including one in 2005 on a young man, Jody Dobrowski, thought by his attackers to be gay, during which he was badly beaten and later died.[

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My concern is on the wider discussion.

I know that majority of the perpertrators of violence on women are men but now there is requests for curfews on men and even requested for undercover police officers in nightclubs. 

To make this happen women have to put their trust in men, but we are led to believe that is that men are trustworthy. 

I sometimes when walking notice if there is a woman about 10 to 15 yards in front of me they look behind and are quite nervous. So I keep my distance or walk across the street. 

I think sometimes as men we never realise how we can be physically intimidating for a woman.

It is like having a 8 foot grizzly bear walking behind us. We would also feel intimidated. 

But if they implement some of these laws, all that would happen is segregation between the sexes. 

For all the women that have genuine concerns, there will be other women who will exploit these laws. 

What could happen is that a man will have to be accompanied by his sister, daughter, wife or some female relative so that if another female accuses you of something, it will be your female relative that will back you up after all we must believe women. 

It's going to come to women to call out other women's bullsh1t.

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