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10 hours ago, Jassu said:

A lot of Muslims whitewash their religion and lie; although this can be rooted from insecurities as well. Some might be in denial about their faith though. It's true that a lot of Muslims are not even fully aware of what the Koran teaches.

There will never be completely transparent and open research conducted about Muslims, but I do wonder how vast the levels of mental illness and other related issues are in their community that can be attributed to the mental juggling act some Muslims have to undertake in order to exist under a belief system that, when its black-and-white doctrine is examined, pulls no punches in its depravity and godlessness.

I don't know how their mouths can formulate the phrase, "I believe in a glorious God because of my religion," when the parameters they've used to arrive at this statement are derived from what's written in the Koran. Anyone who isn't on sub-70 IQ must have sleepless nights. OR Muslims privately know their religion is pure pakandh, and just deign to follow it for the sake of keeping family and the wider community off their back. I know it would send me insane, lol.

Like you said, I think the religion has a galvanising affect on its followers, where it lends them a strong identity they can clamour around as a protective barrier against those they've been lead to believe wish them harm. I think it's what I've just mentioned more than the intellectual and spiritual integrity of the message that enables the religion to amble forwards.

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The kick in the teeth comes after we've passed so-called judgement on whites for their apparent unethical and limitless greed, only to turn your attention back to people from our cultural background,

These are excellent conversations Sikhs should be having with each other if not in person then on forums like these. For too long youngsters have felt like nobody understands their point of view when

I said a few years ago that the rise of Musleh in the bureaucratic machinery of western nations including law enforcement, judiciary, and related areas is going to prove to be a problem for Sikhs. You

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5 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

There will never be completely transparent and open research conducted about Muslims, but I do wonder how vast the levels of mental illness and other related issues are in their community that can be attributed to the mental juggling act some Muslims have to undertake in order to exist under a belief system that, when its black-and-white doctrine is examined, pulls no punches in its depravity and godlessness.

I don't know how their mouths can formulate the phrase, "I believe in a glorious God because of my religion," when the parameters they've used to arrive at this statement are derived from what's written in the Koran. Anyone who isn't on sub-70 IQ must have sleepless nights. OR Muslims privately know their religion is pure pakandh, and just deign to follow it for the sake of keeping family and the wider community off their back. I know it would send me insane, lol.

Like you said, I think the religion has a galvanising affect on its followers, where it lends them a strong identity they can clamour around as a protective barrier against those they've been lead to believe wish them harm. I think it's what I've just mentioned more than the intellectual and spiritual integrity of the message that enables the religion to amble forwards.

I think a lot of what keeps the more "moderate" Muslims from leaving is that the punishment for apostasy in Islam is death. Otherwise it would be more similar to how Hindus and Christians are secularizing in mass. Either that or they join some more liberal sects like Sufisim.

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38 minutes ago, Jassu said:

I've seen a lot of them display interest in Islam and I've even heard some white supremacists think Islam is a 'based' religion and some of the things they do are admirable. Think about what kind of people white supremacists are and what type of a person an average Muslim is (if they truly believe in their religion

 The globo - homo agenda that is being prioritised and any defiance to this narrative is finding people who would oppose each other have common ground. 

For example, the predominantly Muslim school in Birmingham that is fighting against their children taught about "different lifestyles".

I find much of the Islamic doctrine quite abhorrent, however I can find myself agreeing with Muslims in this instance. I imagine that many white people will tacitly agree with the muslims on this particular issue.

What you are finding is that any defiance to the global-homo agenda by a white person is met with label of being a bigot of some sort. However, one of the few groups that have a free pass are the muslims. 

They can get away with saying things against globo-homo because if they get called a homophobic bigot, they will play the race card and islamaphobia card back.

With this global-homo culture that is being forced or perceived to be forced down people's throats, muslims in this particular instance are seen as the last stand. 

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56 minutes ago, Jassu said:

There's another interesting phenomenon I've noticed. Sometimes I go on other social media sites and I get a chance to interact with some white people who are more open expressing their thoughts under the guise of the protection of the Internet. I've seen a lot of them display interest in Islam and I've even heard some white supremacists think Islam is a 'based' religion and some of the things they do are admirable. Think about what kind of people white supremacists are and what type of a person an average Muslim is (if they truly believe in their religion). They're not much different. They each think theirselves to be superior to the rest of the World and they want their ideals/visions to be spread and not anything else.

The main problem is definitely how fast and quickly Muslims are reproducing. If not in the Middle East, then in Africa, ffs lol. I do feel bad for Muslims who are trapped as Muslims simply because they were born in a Muslim family. We all know how hard it is for a Muslim to express contrarian opinions, especially Muslim girls. If it's already hard in Sikh families, it's 100x more difficult in a Muslim family. Even if there are kind and moderate Muslims that exist in the world, just by sheer numbers there will be plenty of radical and ultra-identitarian extremes. 

Take a look on social media for example, I see Muslims all the time writing things on their profiles such as 'I'm Muslim, if you don't like it, leave!' 'No Islamophobia' 'I'm a proud Muslim', most Sikhs don't even mention that they're a Sikh, lol. For Muslims their entire life revolves around being a Muslim. 

Also, I hate to say it but Muslims tend to be lower IQ than other people. There's probably a counterargument somewhere here that 'oh but us Punjabis are dumb as well' or whatever but here's a study that proves the opposite. It's easier for them to not even be aware of their Koran's teachings and parade around with the Koran as if it's a thing to be admired even though it advocates for a lot of chilling ideas. 

Do you think Sikhi previously in the past - before it absorbed Western (i.e. Marxist) values firstly through immigration, and, then currently, through the ideological osmosis of ideas in this global world we live in - exemplified the best of Islamic cultural propriety (concepts of sharam, general decorum, the spurning of excess, unquestioning loyalty to one's group...) as well as our own broad religious teachings?

I think there's a marked difference between what's generally the day-to-day culture followed by certain Muslims (which I quite admire), compared to the nuts and bolts of their religious doctrine. The latter is off-the-charts mental if you're at least somewhat level-headed and well-adjusted, whereas the former, I think, has a number of qualities which, as you stated above, transcend racial and cultural lines to even appeal to some types of white people (those commonly labelled as extremists or nationalists) who are getting tired of the erosion of even the basic norms of conduct. It seems to me that to be labelled as one of the aforementioned "undesirables" in this day and age all a person has to do is reject whatever the television and the internet is championing as correct.

Some whites in Britain may be placing their heads above the parapets and showing support for "based" belief systems such as Islam not so much with absolutely sincerity but with a certain degree of tongue-in-cheek, humourous irony, almost wistfully lamenting the loss of similar values in their own European culture. The problem I see is that they've only recently arrived at this conscious understanding of "something long lost" in relatively recent years when the "rot" became unavoidably difficult to ignore to anyone but the most fervent, flag-waving globalist, while to my mind there's elements of their culture that have been undeniably rotten for many, many decades prior to Muslims ever being a problem in their societies.

Perfect example: Muslims are taking advantage of young white females not as a result of a process pioneered and undertaken by Muslims themselves, but because of a horrible abnegation by native Westerners of their social responsibilities to their own daughters (in the blood-tie AND racial sense) whereby they practically encourage and defeatedly accept the inevitable sexualisation of their girls at a very early age. The girls go from watching Disney and playing with dolls at the age of 9, to wanting to have sexual experiences at the age of 12 or 13 onwards. The insidious social sciences that have scared a particular type of over-bearing parent with the fear that teenagers must be allowed to rebel and experiment with their sexuality lest they become repressed serial killers or recluses, lmao, has done a number on them in a very, very bad way.

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53 minutes ago, Jassu said:

Also, I hate to say it but Muslims tend to be lower IQ than other people. There's probably a counterargument somewhere here that 'oh but us Punjabis are dumb as well' or whatever but here's a study that proves the opposite. It's easier for them to not even be aware of their Koran's teachings and parade around with the Koran as if it's a thing to be admired even though it advocates for a lot of chilling ideas. 

The ghetto-ised or "working" class types, sure, but I find there's an upwardly mobile demographic originating from humble backgrounds who are gradually infiltrating the medical, legal, and complex administrative professions in Britain. Sure, they may not be super-brains, but that kind of representation in those industries certainly counts for something.

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43 minutes ago, Jassu said:

Unfortunately I've even seen some white people refer to our religion as some sort of ultra-lefty feminised free food and charity religion (because we believe in the equality of genders). This new world really shocks me everyday.

That's because we've completed neglected the tegh aspect of our culture, and just focused on degh, and that too for popularity points a lot of the time.

  

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If this is what they think of us, I wonder what Muslims must think? They don't even consider us a threat. 

Depends on where you go. Some south asian ones do see us a potential threat.

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Most white people are not our friends.

They prioritise their own and are constantly on guard against people who might rock their hegemony. We'd get it harder than some other groups because they'd feel that they will be less likely to get blow back for actions against us (for now). I think many see sullay as a 'hornet's nest'. 

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10166035/Marvels-Eternals-banned-Saudi-Arabia-features-gay-couple.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed_article_desktop_tvshowbiz

 

Marvel's new Eternals film is banned in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Qatar 'because it features a gay couple'

  • Marvel's Eternals was due to hit cinemas across the Middle East on November 11 
  • But it will not be released in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait or Qatar, according to reports 
  • Censors allegedly demanded the movie's gay couple - super-hero Phastos and husband Ben, played by Bryan Tyree Henry and Haaz Sleiman - be removed
  • Disney was unwilling to agree so the movie was quietly binned, it is claimed
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16 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Do you think Sikhi previously in the past - before it absorbed Western (i.e. Marxist) values firstly through immigration, and, then currently, through the ideological osmosis of ideas in this global world we live in - exemplified the best of Islamic cultural propriety (concepts of sharam, general decorum, the spurning of excess, unquestioning loyalty to one's group...) as well as our own broad religious teachings?

I think the community started absorbing western ideas like you mention well before recent immigration waves, I think the process started shortly after Panjab was 'annexed'.  That whole movement to show the colonists that we were 'just like them' kicked that off.  

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32 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I think the community started absorbing western ideas like you mention well before recent immigration waves, I think the process started shortly after Panjab was 'annexed'.  That whole movement to show the colonists that we were 'just like them' kicked that off.  

Fealty to the white ruling apparatus of colonial times in the hope of securing advantages for material enrichment and maybe eventual social ascension, I agree, but that never extended to the erosion of day-to-day cultural practices as they related to the expected norms of social conduct, the raising of children, and the imparting of values.  Those really only started to erode with exposure to a post-WW2 West. I'm not suggesting it was a tightly buttoned down patriarchal utopia back in the day, but in most native Punjabi communities back home the price for defying the pind's social contract was severe. 

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43 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10166035/Marvels-Eternals-banned-Saudi-Arabia-features-gay-couple.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed_article_desktop_tvshowbiz

 

Marvel's new Eternals film is banned in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Qatar 'because it features a gay couple'

  • Marvel's Eternals was due to hit cinemas across the Middle East on November 11 
  • But it will not be released in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait or Qatar, according to reports 
  • Censors allegedly demanded the movie's gay couple - super-hero Phastos and husband Ben, played by Bryan Tyree Henry and Haaz Sleiman - be removed
  • Disney was unwilling to agree so the movie was quietly binned, it is claimed

Thinking of dropping off a kilo or two of jalebiya at the local mosque as a "well done for still having some balls" gesture. 😅😂

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Looks like they are admitting guilt, this needs a full investigation without just accepting this apology 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-59154164

Police apology amid claim Sikh headwear was forcibly removed

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Protesters gathered outside Perry Barr police station last week

A police chief has apologised to a Sikh man whose arrest sparked a protest amid claims his religious head covering had been forcibly removed.

An officer removed the head covering in a private room at Perry Barr police station in Birmingham and it fell on the floor at one point, police said.

The force said the head covering, a patka, was immediately retrieved.

Assistant Chief Constable Richard Baker said he met with the man to apologise to him for any distress he experienced.

The matter has been referred to the Independent Office of Police Conduct who are now carrying out an investigation of the officers' interactions with the man on 27 October, West Midlands Police said.

"We understand the religious significance of head coverings to the Sikh faith and we know reports of this incident have caused outrage and anger to the Sikh community and the wider public," ACC Baker said.

"I do not underestimate the impact this has had on the man as well as the Sikh community, both locally and further afield.

"This is absolutely not representative of West Midlands Police.

"We are committed to treating everyone with dignity and respect and we continue to strive for better relationships with the communities we serve. We are determined to hold to account any officer who does not adhere to the standards of professional behaviour."

The IOPC previously said a video on social media suggesting the man had his turban stamped on in a custody suite was "false".

The man, who was released on bail, is due at Birmingham Magistrates' Court on 25 November charged with obstructing a police officer and two counts of driving a vehicle when the VRM (vehicle registration) fails to conform with regulations.

 
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2 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

Do you think Sikhi previously in the past - before it absorbed Western (i.e. Marxist) values firstly through immigration, and, then currently, through the ideological osmosis of ideas in this global world we live in - exemplified the best of Islamic cultural propriety (concepts of sharam, general decorum, the spurning of excess, unquestioning loyalty to one's group...) as well as our own broad religious teachings?

If we brought Singh’s back from the past to see what we have now, they’d think we are following a different religion. Back then there was most likely less of a view on religious fundamentalism, and more of a leniency towards keeping the Panth protected for the future even if they had to do something’s which we view as contrary to Gurmat today. (Like if a Muslim woman would want to become Sikh they’d have to be buried alive and verbally denounce Islam, or if a Muslim man wanted to take Amrit, the Singh’s would force him to eat pork from a wild boar. 
 

The Old generation of Sikhs despite being willing to stand-up for justice for all people were always suspicious of non-Sikh influences. Today we have the opposite, Apne are more talk and wanting appreciation from outsiders, while doing nothing substantial. 

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