referendum People in UK will you be voting?

[GurjantGnostic]

1 minute ago, dharamyudh said:

That's ideal. My thing is, have a solid leadership. Don't have that, can't run nothing. Simple as, brother. That's my only concern. 

Well representatives can only work with what the people have to offer. And I agree we are woefully behind in a lot of Vidya regarding how to run countries and provide and make things. 

[proactive]

5 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Having a representative sustem starts in the household. Your household representatives meet with the others and select representatives from the Khalsa. These Khalsa representatives appoint a Panj Pyare. So because every caste..which isn't real but anyway, but because every caste has family and chosen Khalsa representatives they are represented at the level that selects Panj Pyare. So no matter if you are a majority or a minority you will be selecting through consensus, people to form further consensus, and with consensus even a minority can object. 

But you have to have a built in sanction to prevent such objections because unless you are willing to enforce the decisions of the Panj as divine then questioning them should be tantamount to questioning the decisions of the Gurus. This system can only work if there are to be no objections to those selected to serve. If objections, appeals, referrals and judicial review type processes have to created to placate the objectors then this system quickly degenerates and is no better than democracy. 

[GurjantGnostic]

2 minutes ago, proactive said:

But you have to have a built in sanction to prevent such objections because unless you are willing to enforce the decisions of the Panj as divine then questioning them should be tantamount to questioning the decisions of the Gurus. This system can only work if there are to be no objections to those selected to serve. If objections, appeals, referrals and judicial review type processes have to created to placate the objectors then this system quickly degenerates and is no better than democracy. 

Panj Pyare themselves must agree and if one proves unworthy rest assured he won't be representative again as every level of representative below there has to live with the people. 

The time between selections would have to be determined. 

[proactive]

8 minutes ago, dharamyudh said:

Guess thinking long term makes you a slave of Hindus. Nice! Tell me Mr. Proactive, the Azaad one, whose running Khalistan. 

I'm surprised you even leant to walk because being such a long term thinking, you would have wanted to know who would be there to stop you falling as you took your first steps. Looks like slavery was ingrained in your DNA. 

[dharamyudh]

Just now, proactive said:

I'm surprised you even leant to walk because being such a long term thinking, you would have wanted to know who would be there to stop you falling as you took your first steps. Looks like slavery was ingrained in your DNA. 

Mr. Azaadi man himself. Anyways, how's Pakistan treating you? 

[proactive]

9 minutes ago, dharamyudh said:

Nice so basically asking for raaj right? Totally the Khalsa way my man! Woooohoooo! 

So if these guys were openly calling on Sikhs in india to pick up arms and attack govt officials and the police and get a whole bunch of Sikhs killed, will you be commending them for fighting in the 'khalsa way'? No you will be saying how they sit abroad while they get others sons' killed by the govt. So apart from remain slaves, what's your road plan for freedom? 

[proactive]

Just now, dharamyudh said:

Mr. Azaadi man himself. Anyways, how's Pakistan treating you? 

Now all doubts are dispelled. This guy is probably that clown Hindu Soorma who was here a few years and then took like a typical Hindu made other fake profile to propagate his Hindustani BS. What is it with these Hindus, why pretend to be a Sikh, if you are so desperate to take on a Sikh identity, go and become a Sikh. 

[dharamyudh]

Just now, proactive said:

So if these guys were openly calling on Sikhs in india to pick up arms and attack govt officials and the police and get a whole bunch of Sikhs killed, will you be commending them for fighting in the 'khalsa way'? No you will be saying how they sit abroad while they get others sons' killed by the govt. So apart from remain slaves, what's your road plan for freedom? 

Ready for this? Reorganize ourselves. Instead of using resources on this referendum, let's start expanding Sikhi. Get rid of these mleccha in our panth and spread. However, this is no easy task for obvious reasons. 

[GurjantGnostic]

2 minutes ago, proactive said:

So if these guys were openly calling on Sikhs in india to pick up arms and attack govt officials and the police and get a whole bunch of Sikhs killed, will you be commending them for fighting in the 'khalsa way'? No you will be saying how they sit abroad while they get others sons' killed by the govt. So apart from remain slaves, what's your road plan for freedom? 

I propose a local to global shadow government run by the Khalsa from all places we currently live until a homeland can be established. 

[GurjantGnostic]

1 minute ago, dharamyudh said:

Ready for this? Reorganize ourselves. Instead of using resources on this referendum, let's start expanding Sikhi. Get rid of these mleccha in our panth and spread. However, this is no easy task for obvious reasons. 

I agree with that. And would simultaneously pull this un stunt. I'm not saying we bet the farm or rely on it. Wait..no farms left. Still.