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All, Please be hard on the issue and not on each other. Do not get personal and be respectful to each other.

http://news.cnet.com...l#ixzz1LbG1jUDS I think this really reassures the idea that we should limit our uses online (i might spend too much time) and strive to converse more in person than through texting/fb and other internet media. Even if we don't have anything to hide, the fact that someone can formulate what kind of a person someone is and materialize a person onto a piece of paper is disturbing. I always had a feeling this was true, but this confirms it.

http://www.guardian....ed-with-sorcery Close allies of Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, have been accused of using supernatural powers to further his policies amid an increasingly bitter power struggle between him and the country's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Several people said to be close to the president and his chief of staff, Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei, have been arrested in recent days and charged with being "magicians" and invoking djinns (spirits). Ayandeh, an Iranian news website, described one of the arrested men, Abbas Ghaffari, as "a man with special skills in metaphysics and connections with the unknown worlds". The arrests come amid a growing rift between Ahmadinejad and Khamenei which has prompted several MPs to call for the president to be impeached. On Sunday, Ahmadinejad returned to his office after an 11-day walkout in an apparent protest over Khamenei's reinstatement of the intelligence minister, who the president had initiallyasked to resign. Ahmadinejad's unprecedented disobedience prompted harsh criticism from conservatives who warned that he might face the fate of Abdulhassan Banisadr, Iran's first post-revolution president who was impeached and exiled for allegedly attempting to undermine clerical power. Ayatollah Mesbah Yazdi, a hardline cleric close to Khamenei, warned that disobeying the supreme leader – who has the ultimate power in Iran – is equivalent to "apostasy from God". Ahmadinejad has so far declined to officially back Khamenei's ruling over Heydar Moslehi, the minister at the centre of the row. In the first cabinet meeting since the president returned, Moslehi was absent. Khamenei's supporters believe that the top-level confrontation stems from the increasing influence of Mashaei, an opponent of greater involvement of clerics in politics, who is being groomed by Ahmadinejad as a possible successor. But the feud has taken a metaphysical turn following the release of an Iranian documentary alleging the imminent return of the Hidden Imam Mahdi – the revered saviour of Shia Islam, whose reappearance is anticipated by believers in a manner comparable to that with which Christian fundamentalists anticipate the second coming of Jesus. Conservative clerics, who say that the Mahdi's return cannot be predicted, have accused a "deviant current" within the president's inner circle, including Mashaei, of being responsible for the film. Ahmadinejad's obsession with the hidden imam is well known. He often refers to him in his speeches and in 2009 said that he had documentary evidence that the US was trying to prevent Mahdi's return. Since Ahmadinejad's return this week, at least 25 people, who are believed to be close to Mashaei, have been arrested. Among them is Abbas Amirifar, head of the government's cultural committee and some journalists of Mashaei's recently launched newspaper, Haft-e-Sobh. On Saturday, Mojtaba Zolnour, Khamenei's deputy representative in the powerful Revolutionary Guard, said: "Today Mashaei is the actual president. Mr Ahmadinejad has held on to a decaying rope by relying on Mashaei." :laugh:

dont make her feel bad about herself she is a sister, she is a kaur and she is asking for an advice. we all fall for kaam, krodh... and other 3 vices.. that doesnt change the fact that we are sikh we are all learning and maybe you need to stop putting people down because its not helping them its crushing their self confidence. the only advice i have is... we all are weak at some point in our life. i have been through stuff.. so many times in my life i thought i was in love lol but iwasnt its just the age... !! i am glad i didnt do anything serious back then now it all seems like a joke and back then it was my whole life.... many people are hating on muslims saying you shouldnt do anything because that will give your family a bad name.. all i think is... concentrate more on sikhi.....we are not perfect we all have flaws.. but guru ji will forgive you..he is soo forgiving.. i have done so many bad things in life and i feel weak sometimes.. but guruji picks me back up.. to guru ji no one is filthy..... in sikhi true marriage is when two souls work towards the higher being.. vaheguroojeee.. sikhi is soo beautiful... everytime i feel weak i think of our shaheeds that gave up their kids, their lovely wives, their parents who they loved. so many examples we have before us.. we need to learn from them and get rid of the whole attatchment that we call love... it may not be kaam it maybe attatchement that leads to kaam.. the best thing is to spend as much time listening to kathas..go to gurudwara.. dont bother about people that only put you down....find gursikh sangat and you will get rid of ur attatchment.. know that you are a kaur be like bibi upkar kaur http://www.sikhiwiki...Bibi_Upkar_Kaur who gave shaheedi in 84.. so many things going on in panth ... this panth needs true kaurs like bibi upkar kaur... and you are worthy of being one of the sinhgnias that fought for honor of sikhi.... they are rare... be rare!! dont be one of those that girls that fall for attatchment and kaam.. dont be weak.. be strong be a role model bhene you want your kids to be like baba deep singh ji.... sukha..jinda... bibi upkaar kaur and i am sure that wont happen by marrying a musla.. or someone who doesnt care about sikhi!! know who you are!! go to india.. learn about sikhi.. everytime i feel down i listen to these... http://sikhroots.com...gh_%28London%29 hopefully these lectures will help vaheguroojeekakhalsavaheguroojeeekeefateh

DalSingh is not against Khalistan, all he is saying is on top of all the show we do that we want Khalistan, we need to research and educate ourselves in the political realm even more. It has been 25 years and we still have not been able to tell the world our version of the story very effectively.

That story seems to come from Bhangu's Panth Prakash, and it isn't Guru Gobind who says it. The following is from the English translation by Kulwant Singh:

Singhstah bhaji this Salok brought a tear to my eye Guru jee puts it plain and simple man that was like a mental slap to sort myself out even more ! Vaheguru Vaheguru Vaheguru

Doesnt the akal takht rehat maryada ban consumption of Non Veg Food . Cos there is an Advanced Sikh called Paul singh who insists that meat is allowed in sikhism and backs it up with claims that having descended from Nihang ancestry is a sign that he cannot do wrong

well its true ppl are stupid enough to put all their information out for the world to know where they, and wat their phone number is, then they complain about stalkers lol

Name: Japleen Kaur 5 Year Old - Jaap Sahib - Part1 - Khalsa Phulwari Category: Gurbani Date Added: 06 May 2011 - 11:58 PM Submitter: sunny_love_kirtan Short Description: None Provided :khalsa2: View Video

Words of wisdom..

Here is another really fascinating tuk from our beloved Japji. When Guru ji talks of Karam khand, the last stage prior to achieving sach khand (which I believe is a spiritual state, rather than any physical location/dimension), they say: The reference to religious devotees from other worlds or planets (ਲੋਅ) is intriguing!

I was born in UK and so where my mum and dad, I was not really into religion up until recently. Those of you who know me will know that my wife was born to Hindu family. We had anad karaj at Gurdwara I was married in 2004 no other hindu fire ceremony. My surname is Singh but belong to Sandhu also. As I have never used Sandhu my wife uses Kaur, not Sandhu. As I did not want her to be called Mrs Singh. I have a gorgeous wife and two gorgeous kids. There surname are Kaur and Singh. I try my best to educate them. We go Gurdwara every week, (OK only on Sundays but small steps are better than being stagnent, as there too young to enroll in punjabi school). My wife has never ever objected to any Sikhi related things infact she embraces everything. OK we are not true Sikhs but what we do is with true sharda. Even my in laws pay full respect to Sikhi. I have never been told to embrace hindu religion infact opposite is that my in laws are proud there daughter married a decent guy who is from a sikh background. The sandesh of 2007 most gurdwareh do not abide by as only last autumn one of my white associates married a sikh girl at Havelock Road Singh Sabha the sandesh from 2007 was ignored.

Brilliant Seva thank you

I don't know what to tell you other than to listen to these songs and apply them to yourself, but one thing i want you to know penji is that everyone has temptations but what makes people different is that we choose not to succumb to these temptations. You are in a lucky position, despite what anyone says, because of the fact you posted on this forum it shows that your conscious is kicking in and you know there is something deeply wrong. Listen to these songs and think what would the countless mothers who picked up the pieces of their babies for not giving up their Sikhi. The countless Sikhs who never gave up their dharam and fight for righteousness, they could have converted to Islam to live another day, but they didn't and set an example for future generations in this kalyug world. If you are truly a Sikh girl who really came for help, i do hope for the best and DO listen to all these songs. Sikh Unit and Kaurtion are doing some amazing work in terms of waking up the youth. I can tell you one thing, if you get back into Sikhi i can guarantee you will have REAL bliss. Real love is the altruistic service to humanity and really knowing another person, hormones don't mean you're in love. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=PmuyDHSzMgA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ6TJlcg1xM& http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBQ5HmdwpxA

From Jaap Sahib: ਗਰਬ ਗੰਜਨ ਦੁਸਟ ਭੰਜਨ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਦਾਇਕ ਕਾਮ ॥ Thou art the Destroyer of ego, the vanquisher of tyrants and performer of works leading to salvation. Thanks for this. I agree with your point about using the language to access a wider audience.

Thank you Bhai Sahib :waheguru:

Great seva bhai ji! Did he get the name from Jaap Sahib? Also what is Sadhukari like compared to the language we would already be familiar with?

I don't think so at all. If anything the international community is deferring to India's wishes because India has a massive market for them to sell their goods/services. In these types of economics, rural minorities like us don't really count for much. I mean look at the recent £4.4 billion deal BP made in India to see what kind of moves are going on. Sikhs are so politically naive it is unbelievable. Western economies are capitalcentric (i.e. they put money first). I don't think they would contemplate jeopardising their current interests/investments in India for the sake of Sikhs. Now if we had mounds of oil under the ground, things might have been different (as we can see all over the globe). Frankly I can't see outsiders getting overly enthused over the agricultural produce our economy is based on. Expecting the west to magically rescue us from our oppressors like knights in shining armour, is not only highly unrealistic, but also embarrassingly weak on our part. We've turned from warriors into damsels in distress.

Interesting to read some old European observations about Sikh horses. Here is a contemporary picture of Maharajah Ranjit Singh's famous horse Laila, maybe someone can identify the breed?

All the mahapursh in the past have encourage students never to criticize takth sahiban maryada and always do satkar of them despite of differences in samparda maryada. In Gurmat Maryada pustak, sant baba gurbachan singh ji bhindranwale mentions how one shouldn't criticize takht sahiban maryada he mentions how he does not agree with arti-arta concept in sachkhand hazoor sahib but despite of that, it holds hazoor sahib maryada at high esteem. One should take all panj takhth sahiban maryada at very high esteem when they do anything for the panth or in panthic circle but when it comes personal sikhi, one can follow sampardai maryada. It's very simple concept that is still used when you learn sikhi through mahapursh, that avoids all the conflicts of my samparda's maryada is right and others are wrong.

I wish there were pictures depicting this horse, from what you said it seems like an amazing horse. Apparently this horse is a descendant to Guru Gobind Singh Ji's horse, therefore it might be the closest thing to pure bred unmol we have now? I did a google search and found these: http://en.wikipedia....iki/Unmol_Horse http://tackandtalk.w...he-unmol-horse/

Sometime we find some of us quoting sikhism in general to further their narrow view. Sikh teachings do not endorse hate towards any community. Guru Gobind singh has stressed upon equality of human beings irrespective of race, religion or gender. ਹਿੰਦੂ ਤੁਰਕ ਕੋਊ ਰਾਫਜੀ ਇਮਾਮ ਸਾਫੀ ਮਾਨਸ ਕੀ ਜਾਤਿ ਸਬੈ ਏਕੈ ਪਹਿਚਾਨਬੋ ॥ हिंदू तुरक कोऊ राफजी इमाम साफी मानस की जाति सबै एकै पहिचानबो ॥ Someone is Hindu and someone a Muslim, then someone is Shia, and someone a Sunni, but all the human beings, as a species, are recognized as one and the same. ਕਰਤਾ ਕਰੀਮ ਸੋਈ ਰਾਜਕ ਰਹੀਮ ਓਈ ਦੂਸਰੋ ਨ ਭੇਦ ਕੋਈ ਭੂਲਿ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਮਾਨਬੋ ॥ करता करीम सोई राजक रहीम ओई दूसरो न भेद कोई भूलि भ्रम मानबो ॥ Karta (The Creator) and Karim (Merciful) is the same Lord, Razak (The Sustainer) and Rahim (Compassionate) is the same Lord, there is no other second, therefore consider this verbal distinguishing feature of Hindusim and Islam as an error and an illusion. ਏਕ ਹੀ ਕੀ ਸੇਵ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਕੋ ਗੁਰਦੇਵ ਏਕ ਏਕ ਹੀ ਸਰੂਪ ਸਬੈ ਏਕੈ ਜੋਤ ਜਾਨਬੋ ॥੧੫॥੮੫॥ एक ही की सेव सभ ही को गुरदेव एक एक ही सरूप सबै एकै जोत जानबो ॥१५॥८५॥ Thus worship the ONE LORD, who is the common enlightener of all; all have been created in His Image and amongst all comprehend the same ONE LIGHT. 15.85. ਦੇਹਰਾ ਮਸੀਤ ਸੋਈ ਪੂਜਾ ਔ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਓਈ ਮਾਨਸ ਸਬੈ ਏਕ ਪੈ ਅਨੇਕ ਕੋ ਭ੍ਰਮਾਉ ਹੈ ॥ देहरा मसीत सोई पूजा औ निवाज ओई मानस सबै एक पै अनेक को भ्रमाउ है ॥ The temple and the mosque are the same, there is no difference between a Hindu worship and Muslim prayer; all the human beings are the same, but the illusion is of various types. dasam granth sahib

Let us confine ourselves to background of Usama Bin Laden. It is he who started this with bombing of American Embassy in Kenya. He bombed US destroyer Cole. His man bombed World trade centre. Then he crossed all limits and steered hijacked planes into world trade center and bombed Pentagon. What was the alternative with US? Let this beast escape? No that is to reward butchery. If he was so brave he should not have lived like a coward in a protected house after killing scores of people. Nobody asked him to sideline himself from the war that he started. His coward attitude forced him to take shelter in a safe haven. But God is there to punish such beasts.It takes time but there is justice in God's house. Osama has been brought to justice now. This is the end of his barbaric acts.

Taken from Gyani Amar Singh Ji's book of Sodi Paatshah. During the time period of Guru Amar Das Ji, the city of Govindwal was flourishing. Sangat would come especially to do Guru Ji's darshan. During this time, Bhai Jetha Ji (who later became Guru Ram Das Ji) , came to Baasarke, to live with his maternal grandparents. Bhai Jetha Ji was born in 1534 in Lahore to Mata Daya Kaur & Hardas Ji. However his parents passed away while he was very young. He then came to stay with his maternal grandparents at Basarke. When he heard about Govindwal & the praises of Guru Amar Das Ji, he left Basarke and came to stay in Govindwal. Just before Bhai Jetha Ji left for Govindwal, a very significant incident took place that changed the course of his life. His Naniji had bestowed on him the responsibility of selling 'ghungreeyaa' (boiled grains). One day as he left home to sell 'ghungreeyaa' , he met some holy men on the way. They asked him for 'ghungreeyaa' as they were very hungry. Bhai Jetha Ji sat down and offered them a handful of the same, thinking they will be satisfied with that. However, the holy men were not satisfied and asked him for more. Bhai Jetha Ji was so selfless & humble that he gave all the ghungreeyaa he had to the holy men. Bhai Jetha Ji's Naniji had given him the grains in the morning, thinking he would bring home some earning. When he returned home, Naniji asked him how much he had earned, to which Bhai Jetha Ji replied "Kuch vi nahi". He narrated the entire incident to her but she couldn't believe him. Bhai Jetha Ji was very hurt with Naniji's words & so he left for Govindwal. Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Ramkalee dee Vaar : ਸਲੋਕ ਮਃ ੫ ॥ ਜੈਸਾ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਸੁਣੀਦਾ ਤੈਸੋ ਹੀ ਮੈ ਡੀਠੁ ॥ ਵਿਛੁੜਿਆ ਮੇਲੇ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਹਰਿ ਦਰਗਹ ਕਾ ਬਸੀਠੁ ॥ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੋ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ ਦ੍ਰਿੜਾਇਦਾ ਕਟੇ ਹਉਮੈ ਰੋਗੁ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਤਿਨਾ ਮਿਲਾਇਆ ਜਿਨਾ ਧੁਰੇ ਪਇਆ ਸੰਜੋਗੁ ॥੧॥ Salok mėhlā 5. Jaisā saṯgur suṇīḏā ṯaiso hī mai dīṯẖ. vicẖẖuṛi▫ā mele parabẖū har ḏargėh kā basīṯẖ. Har nāmo manṯar ḏariṛā▫iḏā kate ha▫umai rog. Nānak saṯgur ṯinā milā▫i▫ā jinā ḏẖure pa▫i▫ā sanjog. ||1|| Shalok, Fifth Mehl: As I have heard of the True Guru, so I have seen Him. He re-unites the separated ones with God; He is the Mediator at the Court of the Lord. He implants the Mantra of the Lord's Name, and eradicates the illness of egotism. O Nanak, he alone meets the True Guru, who has such union pre-ordained. ||1|| ਬਸੀਠੁ = ਵਿਚੋਲਾ, ਵਕੀਲ। ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ = ਉਪਦੇਸ਼। ਧੁਰੇ = ਧੁਰ ਤੋਂ, ਮੁੱਢ ਤੋਂ। ਸੰਜੋਗੁ = ਮੇਲ, ਮਿਲਾਪ।੧। ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਜਿਹੋ ਜਿਹਾ ਸੁਣੀਦਾ ਸੀ, ਉਹੋ ਜਿਹਾ ਜਿਹਾ ਹੀ ਮੈਂ (ਅੱਖੀਂ) ਵੇਖ ਲਿਆ ਹੈ, ਗੁਰੂ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਦੀ ਹਜ਼ੂਰੀ ਦਾ ਵਿਚੋਲਾ ਹੈ, ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਤੋਂ ਵਿੱਛੁੜਿਆਂ ਨੂੰ (ਮੁੜ) ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਨਾਲ ਮਿਲਾ ਦੇਂਦਾ ਹੈ, ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਦਾ ਨਾਮ ਸਿਮਰਨ ਦਾ ਉਪਦੇਸ਼ (ਜੀਵ ਦੇ ਹਿਰਦੇ ਵਿਚ) ਪੱਕਾ ਕਰ ਦੇਂਦਾ ਹੈ (ਤੇ ਇਸ ਤਰ੍ਹਾਂ ਉਸ ਦਾ) ਹਉਮੈ ਦਾ ਰੋਗ ਦੂਰ ਕਰ ਦੇਂਦਾ ਹੈ। ਪਰ, ਹੇ ਨਾਨਕ! ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਉਹਨਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਹੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਮਿਲਾਉਂਦਾ ਹੈ ਜਿਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੇ ਭਾਗਾਂ ਵਿਚ ਧੁਰੋਂ ਇਹ ਮੇਲ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਹੁੰਦਾ ਹੈ।੧। On reaching Govindwal too, he made a living by selling 'ghungreeyaa'. As Lahore was easily accessible from Govindwal, many travelers en-route to Lahore would pass by Govindwal. Bhai Jetha Ji was very happy here to see the sangat. The sound of kirtan from the Guru's Darbar filled his heart with happiness & peace. Twice a day he would pay respects at the Guru's Darbar, while he sold 'ghungreeyaa' in the day. It is believed that when Bhai Jetha Ji called out to passers by, "Ghungreeyaa leh lo", in his sweet, melodious voice, they would stop by just to listen to him. Guru Amar Das Ji had two daughters; Bibi Dani Ji & Bibi Bhani Ji. Bibi Dani Ji was married while Bibi Bhani Ji was to get married. Guru Sahib jaanee jaan sann. He would sit quietly engrossed in the thoughts of Akaal Purakh. However his wife, Bibi Bhani Ji's mother was very concerned about her daughter's future. One day while Bhai Jetha Ji was passing by the Guru Darbar and calling out "Ghungreeyaa leh lo", Bibi Dani Ji's mother asked Guru Sahib that their daughter was of marriageable age & they must find a suitable match for her. Guru Sahib Ji, jaanee jaan sann. He asked Mata Ji, "Kidda ko larkaa honaa chaheeda hai?" Mata Ji had seen Bhai Jetha Ji a few times selling 'ghungreeyaa'. However today she looked at him with much love & admiration. Bhai Jetha Ji had such noor & bakshish on his face that Mata Ji couldn't help admiring him. She told Guru Sahib, "Jidda ko munda ghungreeyaa vechar vaala hai, eho jeha hi koyi hove, taa theek hai." On hearing this Guru Amar Das Ji laughed and said, "Bholeeye! Eho jehaa taa kudrat ne eho hee paida kitaa hai, hor kitho hovega?" Mata Ji was taken aback with Guru Sahib's words. She said "Maharaj! Mera matlab hai ki edda koh munda hovey." Guru Sahib again said, "Oh bholeeye! hun kyu bharam karni hai? Iss jehaa eho hi hai." Mata Ji became apprehensive now thinking, how could Guru Sahib give his daughter's hand to Bhai Jetha Ji! Guru Amar Das Ji sent a sewak to call Bhai Jetha Ji. On arriving at the Guru's darbar, Bhai Jetha Ji kept the basket of ghungreeyaa on the floor, bowed before Guru Ji and sat down. Gyani Amar Singh Ji [the writer of this sakhi], wonders there was a time when Bhai Jetha Ji did Guru Amar Das Ji's darshan from a distance and today Guru Sahib gave him the opportunity to do his darshan so closely. With his head bowed in humility, Bhai Jetha Ji asked "Ji Satguru Ji, iss nimaare layee ki hukkam hai?" Guru Sahib replied, " Saada taa koyee hukkam nahi, par iss teri mata ji nu tere naal kam pai gaya si." Guru Ji then looked at Mata Ji and asked, "Ki salaah hai? Iss vargaa taa eho jeha hi hai." Mata Ji replied "Aap maalak ho, jivey theek samjhde ho, uve hi theek hai. Mein tuhaadi hukkam-adoolee dee aviggyaa nahi kar sakdi, na mein tuhadeeyaa door-darshi gallaa bare koyi andaaza hi laa sakdi haa, iss layi aap theek hi aakh rahe hovoge." After listening to Mata Ji's words, Guru Amar Das Ji asked Bhai Jetha Ji about his family & where he lived. Bhai Jetha Ji with utmost humility and respect answered all questions of Guru Sahib, and kept on repeating, "Paatshah! Mein ta yateem haa, gareeb haa, nitaara haa, par tuhade aasre te ithe Govindwal vich hi jeewan-nirbaah kar reha haa." Nimaareyaa de maarn, nitaareyaa de taarn, nioteyaa di oat, niaasreyaa de aasre, nigatteyaa di gatt, nipatteyaa di patt, te nidhiniyaa di dhir baran wale Guru Amar Das Ji , smiled after listening to Bhai Jetha Ji and said, " Assaa tera yateempura khatam kar dera hai, tennu apnaa puttar barah lehraa hai." After saying these sacred words, Guru Amar Das Ji sent Bhai Jetha Ji to Lahore and told him that he would like his daughter wedded to him. Guru Sahib also asked Bhai Jetha Ji to now go and prepare for the wedding, and later if he wished he could return to stay with Guru Sahib. Kirtan ~~~ P.S. The above is a small attempt at translating from Gyani Amar Singh Ji's book on Sodi Paatshah which is written in Gurmukhi. There may be numerous mistakes while doing so, bhull chuk mauf karna ji. :waheguru:

Wahegurujikakhalsawahegurujikifateh Dhan Dhan Satguru Sri Guru Amar Das Ji Maharaj, Dhan Dhan Satguru Sri Guru Raam Das Ji Maharaj, Dhan Dhan Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj. Wahegurujikakhalsawahegurujikifateh

:l: baitha sodi patshah Ramdas satguru kahave :waheguru:

Guru Ramdas Ji Raag Gond : ਗੋਂਡ ਮਹਲਾ ੪ ॥ ਹਰਿ ਦਰਸਨ ਕਉ ਮੇਰਾ ਮਨੁ ਬਹੁ ਤਪਤੈ ਜਿਉ ਤ੍ਰਿਖਾਵੰਤੁ ਬਿਨੁ ਨੀਰ ॥੧॥ Gond mėhlā 4. Har ḏarsan ka▫o merā man baho ṯapṯai ji▫o ṯarikẖāvaʼnṯ bin nīr. ||1|| Gond, Fourth Mehl: My mind yearns so deeply for the Blessed Vision of the Lord's Darshan, like the thirsty man without water. ||1|| ਕਉ = ਨੂੰ, ਵਾਸਤੇ। ਤਪਤੈ = ਤਪ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ, ਲੁੱਛ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ, ਤੜਫ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ। ਤ੍ਰਿਖਾਵੰਤੁ = ਤਿਹਾਇਆ ਮਨੁੱਖ। ਨੀਰ = ਪਾਣੀ।੧। (ਹੇ ਸਹੇਲੀਏ! ਉਸ ਪ੍ਰੇਮ ਦੇ ਤੀਰ ਦੇ ਕਾਰਨ ਹੁਣ) ਮੇਰਾ ਮਨ ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ ਦੇ ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਵਾਸਤੇ (ਇਉਂ) ਲੁਛ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ ਜਿਵੇਂ ਪਾਣੀ ਤੋਂ ਬਿਨਾ ਤਿਹਾਇਆ ਮਨੁੱਖ।੧। ਮੇਰੈ ਮਨਿ ਪ੍ਰੇਮੁ ਲਗੋ ਹਰਿ ਤੀਰ ॥ ਹਮਰੀ ਬੇਦਨ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਜਾਨੈ ਮੇਰੇ ਮਨ ਅੰਤਰ ਕੀ ਪੀਰ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Merai man parem lago har ṯīr. Hamrī beḏan har parabẖ jānai mere man anṯar kī pīr. ||1|| rahā▫o. My mind is pierced through by the arrow of the Lord's Love. The Lord God knows my anguish, and the pain deep within my mind. ||1||Pause|| ਮੇਰੈ ਮਨਿ = ਮੇਰੇ ਮਨ ਵਿਚ। ਬੇਦਨ = {वेदना} ਪੀੜਾ। ਅੰਤਰ ਕੀ = ਅੰਦਰ ਦੀ, ਅੰਦਰਲੀ। ਪੀਰ = ਪੀੜ।੧।ਰਹਾਉ। ਹੇ ਭਾਈ! ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ ਦਾ ਪਿਆਰ ਮੇਰੇ ਮਨ ਵਿਚ ਤੀਰ ਵਾਂਗ ਲੱਗਾ ਹੋਇਆ ਹੈ। (ਉਸ ਪ੍ਰੇਮ-ਤੀਰ ਦੇ ਕਾਰਨ ਪੈਦਾ ਹੋਈ) ਮੇਰੇ ਮਨ ਦੀ ਅੰਦਰਲੀ ਪੀੜ-ਵੇਦਨਾ ਮੇਰਾ ਹਰੀ ਮੇਰਾ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਹੀ ਜਾਣਦਾ ਹੈ।੧।ਰਹਾਉ। ਮੇਰੇ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ ਕੀ ਕੋਈ ਬਾਤ ਸੁਨਾਵੈ ਸੋ ਭਾਈ ਸੋ ਮੇਰਾ ਬੀਰ ॥੨॥ Mere har parīṯam kī ko▫ī bāṯ sunāvai so bẖā▫ī so merā bīr. ||2|| Whoever tells me the Stories of my Beloved Lord is my Sibling of Destiny, and my friend. ||2|| ਬਾਤ = ਗੱਲ। ਬੀਰ = ਵੀਰ।੨। ਹੇ ਸਹੇਲੀਏ! ਹੁਣ ਜੇ ਕੋਈ ਮਨੁੱਖ ਮੈਨੂੰ ਮੇਰੇ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਦੀ ਕੋਈ ਗੱਲ ਸੁਣਾਵੇ (ਤਾਂ ਮੈਨੂੰ ਇਉਂ ਲੱਗਦਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ) ਉਹ ਮਨੁੱਖ ਮੇਰਾ ਭਰਾ ਹੈ ਮੇਰਾ ਵੀਰ ਹੈ।੨। ਮਿਲੁ ਮਿਲੁ ਸਖੀ ਗੁਣ ਕਹੁ ਮੇਰੇ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੇ ਲੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਮਤਿ ਧੀਰ ॥੩॥ Mil mil sakẖī guṇ kaho mere parabẖ ke le saṯgur kī maṯ ḏẖīr. ||3|| Come, and join together, O my companions; let's sing the Glorious Praises of my God, and follow the comforting advice of the True Guru.. ||3|| ਮਿਲੁ = {ਹੁਕਮੀ ਭਵਿੱਖਤ}। ਸਖੀ = ਹੇ ਸਹੇਲੀਏ! ਕਹੁ = ਦੱਸ, ਸੁਣ। ਲੇ = ਲੈ ਕੇ। ਧੀਰ = {Adj.} ਕੋਮਲਤਾ ਪੈਦਾ ਕਰਨ ਵਾਲੀ, ਸ਼ਾਂਤੀ ਦੇਣ ਵਾਲੀ।੩। ਹੇ ਸਹੇਲੀਏ! ਗੁਰੂ ਦੀ ਸ਼ਾਂਤੀ ਦੇਣ ਵਾਲੀ ਮਤਿ ਲੈ ਕੇ ਮੈਨੂੰ ਭੀ ਮਿਲਿਆ ਕਰ, ਤੇ, ਮੈਨੂੰ ਪਿਆਰੇ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਦੀ ਸਿਫ਼ਤਿ-ਸਾਲਾਹ ਸੁਣਾਇਆ ਕਰ।੩। ਜਨ ਨਾਨਕ ਕੀ ਹਰਿ ਆਸ ਪੁਜਾਵਹੁ ਹਰਿ ਦਰਸਨਿ ਸਾਂਤਿ ਸਰੀਰ ॥੪॥੬॥ ਛਕਾ ੧॥ Jan Nānak kī har ās pujāvahu har ḏarsan sāʼnṯ sarīr. ||4||6|| Cẖẖakā 1|| Please fulfill the hopes of servant Nanak, O Lord; his body finds peace and tranquility in the Blessed Vision of the Lord's Darshan. ||4||6|| Chhakaa 1.|| ਹਰਿ = ਹੇ ਹਰੀ! ਪੁਜਾਵਹੁ = ਪੂਰੀ ਕਰੋ। ਦਰਸਨਿ = ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਨਾਲ। ਸਾਂਤਿ ਸਰੀਰ-ਸਰੀਰ ਨੂੰ ਸ਼ਾਂਤੀ, ਹਿਰਦੇ ਨੂੰ ਠੰਢ।੪।ਛਕਾ = ਛੱਕਾ, ਛੇ ਸ਼ਬਦਾਂ ਦਾ ਸੰਗ੍ਰਹ। ਹੇ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ! (ਆਪਣੇ) ਦਾਸ ਨਾਨਕ ਦੀ (ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਦੀ) ਆਸ ਪੂਰੀ ਕਰ। ਹੇ ਹਰੀ! ਤੇਰੇ ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਨਾਲ ਮੇਰੇ ਹਿਰਦੇ ਨੂੰ ਠੰਢ ਪੈਂਦੀ ਹੈ।੪।੬।ਛੱਕਾ, ਛੇ ਸ਼ਬਦਾਂ ਦਾ ਸੰਗ੍ਰਹ। Ang. 861 - 862 Kirtan

Waheguru, such gareebi!! :D Dhan Dhan Guru Ramdas Sahib Ji! :waheguru:

LAHORE: The Sikh community has alleged that meat, prohibited in their religion, was cooked at Gurdwara Panja Sahib in Hassanabdal, one of the holiest places in Sikhism. The community has accused the Evacuee Trust Property Board (ETPB), the custodian of their religious places, of trying to dump the issue rather than taking steps against those responsible. “We demand that an FIR be lodged and the culprits who cooked meat in our Gurdwara be penalised,” community leader Sardar Bishon Singh told The Express Tribune. “Meat, eggs and tobacco are prohibited in Sikhism like pork is in Islam,” he said. “The caretaker, along with local Muslim staff, cooked meat in Gurdwara Panja Sahib on Sunday,” said a member of Gurdwara Panja Sahib Sewadar Society Sardar Pretam Singh. “It is unfortunate for Sikhs that custodians of their religious places, who are almost all Muslims, have been involved in violation of their faith,” said Bishon Singh. Pretam Singh added that he caught one staff member red-handed with meat in the Gurdwara’s kitchen. “When I complained to the caretaker of the Gurdwara, Memrooz Khan, he rebuffed my plea,” he said. ETPB’s additional secretary and deputy administrator then conducted an inquiry and transferred all staff from the Gurdwara. “We demanded that all employees involved in the act should at least be suspended, but ETPB refused to do so,” Rajan Singh said. Sardar Bishon Singh said that anyone who desecrates a religious place should be tried under section 295 of the Pakistan Penal Code, he added. ETPB’s Deputy Administrator Faraz Abbas told The Express Tribune that he was not sure whether anyone cooked meat at the Gurdwara, but on complaints by the community, all staff has been transferred and new people have been appointed. Published in The Express Tribune, May 5th, 2011 http://tribune.com.pk/story/162164/religious-insensitivity-sikhs-allege-meat-was-cooked-in-gurdwara/

Readers of all of these threads I have a little suggestion for you to help you filter out all of the people like harjeet etc who whenever there is talk of khalistan or a sikh alliance with the West they will on purpose try to divert your attention now:- Read all of the threads and look at any suggestion of 1 - take the jewish homeland as a blueprint for the sikh struggle 2 - giving the youth the knowledge that they alone have power to make a khalistan 3 - ant talk of sikh groups in the West influencing politics 4 - any talk of an independant homeland with haraya and pakistan included You will ALL notice the same few people who jump on the thread and tell us how it cant be done how we cant have alliances how we cant have our own country how the americans and british are bad how sikhs need to stand on their own how we need to read more how we need more time - THEY ARE ALSO THE ONES PUTTING ALL OF THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES ON THE BOARD TO MOVE YOUNG GURSIKHS AWAY THE KHALISTAN CAUSE AND INTO PARANOIA SO IGNORE THEM AND FOCUS ON ONE THING AND THAT IS HOW YOU CAN CONTRIBUTE EVERYDAY IN ANY SMALL WAY TO BUILDING KHALISTAN Their entire reason for being on these sikh boards is to stop any other sikhs joining the hundreds of thousands who want an independant homeland so now you know exactly what to ignore when reading these boards So now you know exactly what to filter outwhat to read and make up your own minds FOCUS IS THE KEY TO KHALISTAN AND ANYTHING THAT TRIES TO DIVERT YOUR FOCUS TOWARDS MORE TIME MORE MONEY MORE PARANOIA MORE SMALL PETTY ISSUES IS TRYING TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENTION WJKKWJKF

Ho hum.

You keep on thinking about it DalSingh that is all you are really good for diverting attention at the task in hand. Sikhs managae vast amounts of farmland gurdwaras in every country across the world we partake in politics and finance and you think we wouldnt be able to manage our own affairs or is it you are trying to get people to believe that we wont be able to manage our own affairs Punjab at the moment is still surviving and prospering may I add without you laying out an economic plan for it and it alsways has prospered Dalsingh carry on thinking and arguing and diverting attention and trying to tell the youngbloods they cannot run Khalistan We all know on this site that Punjab is established and the central goverment and hindutva have tried everything to stop our progress from poisoning food not picking up our grain from the markets stopping all funding from central goverment stopping sikhs buying land in other states and even poisoning our water system and sending our youth abroad by starving out their families There is a much higher power in the world and we sikhs understand and are protected by it People like you can try to stop the cause you will not succeed PEOPLE LIKE DALSINGH GURDSINGH WILL TRY THEIR BEST TO STOP YOU BELIEVEING BUT TRUST ME IF SIKHS CAN BECOME ONE OF THE MOST PROSPEROUS MINORITIES INT HE WORLD EVEN AFTER THE INDIAN GOVERMENT THE MOGHULS AND PEOPLE LIKE DALSINGH HAVE TRIED TO KEEP US DOWN THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN STOP KHALISTAN BEING ESTABLISH APART FROM DOUBTS THAT PEOPLE LIEK DALSINGH ARE ATTEMPTING TO PLANT IN YOUR MIND

Vaheguroo Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguroo Ji Ki Fateh to my sister, most have said whats needed to be said, really this relationship would be damaging to you. About your saddness, please read Salok Mahalla Nauva by Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib Ji (its got a translation as well just in case you can't read gurmukhi): http://www.gurbanifiles.org/pocket_pc/SlokM9_GE.pdf Please read the whole thing, the things Guru Ji teaches us in this about life are just priceless. If only we could remember all of this all the time we would never be sad again. Also remember whatever you love about someone, its not the person that you love. In reality all things that we find good in this world or giving us pleasure are really Vaheguroo himself. If you want the infinite times the happiness you recieved from your boyfriend Vaheguroo can give it to you. I heard a katha today which was great, he was talking about family relations (we can apply it to your situation to). He said that all relations we have in this world are based on worldly things, in reality all the people we meet who we seem to have love with and love us are really only interested in what they can get from us, who in this world is a totally self-less lover? Our Guru who knows everything tells us there is no one, everyone is in it for their own happiness, even if we don't realise it, what the Guru is saying to us about this is nothing but the truth. There is no relationship in this world or the next that will not cause us problems of some sort except for a relationship with our Guru and Vaheguroo. Make a relationship with them and I guarantee you you will eventually feel countless times more bliss and love from him than anyone, so much so that you will not even remember anything else. What you need to do is ardas. you need to do a heartfelt prayer to your Guru Ji asking him to lead you the right way and for his protection and help in everyway. I would also suggest getting it touch with some proper GurSikhs just to get your focus on whats good for you and to realise there is life outside of one person. Especially when you have the choice between a relationship that could ruin you in worldly terms and spiritual terms or friendship with those that could lead you the right way. Give us here a rough idea of where you live and I am sure someone could tell you about when good GurSikhs meet to do sangat and talk. Vaheguroo Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguroo Ji Ki Fateh

We will have our own country how does that make us slaves you imbecile The british owe us for the sikhs that fought alongside them in the world wars so we are just taking back the favour unless you have a problem with that

What happened in 1947, You mean 1919 Jallianwalla bagh massacre (BTW also muslims and hindus were present and murdered). Also Shaheed e azam sardar bhagat singh was highly influenced by communist he was a socialist. Also Britian has apologised for the massacre and admits it was totally wrong. I think also when the queen visited Sri Harmandir sahib she also went to Jallianwalla bagh.

My couple of points: * every girl dating a sullah thinks "hes different", They will always start out as the moderate non-orthodox types. Sharing bhangra and having a drink. * Your idea of love is based completely on kaam and no spiritual unification. Once this phase wears off you, like 100's of silly girls that have walked the same path will be left alone, cold, depressed.. feeling old with zero self-worth and most importantly the destruction of whats most important, your Dharam. * Once this romeo Juliet scenario has come to its natural death, You would have lost your family, you would have hurt those most important to you. Once you have burnt those bridges you will have zero worth to this guy. These guys chase the unattainable, thats the thrill for these scumbags. But once he knows your his, the game is over, and your now just trash. Either he will attempt to convert you, or otherwise dump you for his family arranged wife, probably after making you pregnant. You have one life, one opportunity.. at the time of death these silly games will count for nothing. Stop wasting time, the only reason you ever "need" a bf is when you have low self confidence and low self worth. Your longing for love and affection and admiration is due to your own inferiority complex. You need to start loving yourself first. find out who you are, where you are going. I dont feel sorry for you, nor would waste time typing anything more, as to be honest i see you as a disgrace. I just hope you don't wear a Kara and rep Kaur in your name. Only persons I feel sorry for is you family, and maybe the Sikh brother who might end up with you one day, not knowing the truth. anyways.. The Khalsa will rule.. The beautiful lions and princesses of the Guru will shine. The sl*gs and Sell-outs will be Crushed!

That's a photoshop job I think.

Harjeet. Remember what we spoke about yesterday and restrain any superfluous talk brother.

Foreigner trying too hard to fit in......

Are you just blindly relaying the propaganda narrative like a sheep?

Way to go. What started as a light hearted, interesting (to me at least), multifaceted topic to have a little banter about gets totally taken out of context. No one is suggesting preaching Sikhi to aliens. The discussion could have been an opportunity to try and extract some core elements of Sikhi and understand the cosmological references in bani. Hardly a waste of time. But let's forget all that now.

All things said and done, talking between Sikh brothers, I think it is really dangerous and foolish for us to accept any of the simplistic narratives that is used to frame this conflict by those involved in it. Truth is, on a closer inspection this black and white framing of clear 'good guys' and 'bad guys' starts to fuzz. In reality that is just done for public consumption anyway. Painting all of this in simple strokes is dangerous for us (as Sikhs) in a number of ways. Accepting such a 'dumbed down' perspective of the situation doesn't help us develop a deeper understanding of the wider political and cultural context of what we are witnessing. If we are going to talk of the Bin Ladens, Saddams or even Qaddafis of the world we shouldn't be ignorant of their previous relationships with the very nations that have now turned against them. When we do this, we see the true nature of the people who are trying to portray themselves as the moral voice. We learn that in reality, they have no objection to supporting and befriending tyrants as long as it serves their (usually economic) interests. 'But why are such things important?' you may ask. Because we as a people need to grow up too. Hitherto Sikhs have been mainly very simple folk, from rural backgrounds. If we are ever going to achieve statehood and self rule, our political naivety and simplicity have to end. We have to grow up and see things more carefully and objectively. Developing these skills and understandings will be what ensures our own survival in future. Otherwise we will continue to be a politically insignificant people who are stuck in the middle of other nation's battles, choosing sides based on who has the best propaganda (as opposed to carefully trying to establish the truth independently). We can't afford to be this dumb. We have to learn to look after our own interests, because it appears as if everyone bar us are doing just this. Often very ruthlessly too. ਜਾਗਦੀ ਜ਼ਮੀਰ ਰੱਖੋ ਭਰਾਵੋ ਨੀ ਤਾਂ ਅਸੀਂ ਹਮੇਸ਼ਾਂ ਕਿਸੇ ਦੇ ਚਮਚੇ ਜਾਂ ਗੁਲਾਮ ਰਹਿਣਾ

Do you know how many innocent Iraqis have died due to some cooked up WMD claims - by your reasoning shouldn't Bush and Blair themselves be executed for this, as they instigated the conflict? Please try not to respond with brain dead, American style 'patriotic' jingoism btw. As I said, it's more complicated than the narrative pushed out for the feeble minded to consume.

I've grown up here. I live with them. I've studied their politics and history. You're the imbecile who doesn't have a clue about what you are talking about. They will harp on about Sikh sacrifices when it serves some purpose, and then readily turn their back on us (like they did at partition), when they have what they need or whenever it serves their own interests. All the while relying on ghulam mentality, naive apnay like you. Try reading grown up history/politics books a bit more. You need it desperately. Or is it that you don't have the confidence that our people can do these things on our own?

Keep reading your books Dalsingh and spreading disinfo and halt any progress on behalf of the Sikhs if it was left to people like you we wouldnt have one Sikh gurdwara in the West because for one you seem to be against any progressive talk on the Khalistan issue and when any point which is valid and will get people really thinking instead of only using books for reference you seem to jump on the thread to divert it I will give you an example a person like you would first ask if it is right to build a gurdwara you would then reference your books for past gurdwaras built in any specific area you would then ask if the design was right and check you are using the right materials if we all thought like you we would all live in libraries People like you are not the type who are freedom fighters you are a book bashers with no guts you think you are smart but dumbed down and unable to think progressively because you have worn out any useful neurons besides I dont feel you are a true Khalistan advocate any way and am suspicious of your stance on progressive talk on the matter Never mind we had types like you in the past and we will have types like you once Khalistan is established you are nothing but a stone in the road which we will discard once the time is right Just one more comment why are you trusting their history books why not comile your own you seem to have the time with the amount of posts you have on here bashing any Khalistan talk

If people want to talk about Khalistan, childish, unrealistic pipe dreams isn't going to do anything. I've been watching this thing since before most of you were born. Big Internet talk isn't going to achieve anything. People need to go back to basics and understand politics and economics (amongst many other things). In depth! Those who just open their mouths emotionally, without an adult understanding of exactly what getting a Khalistan would actually involve in real terms, are pipe dreamers at best, or fools of the highest order at worse, who actually jeopardise their own desire anyway. We need clued up realistic leaders, not over excited teenagers. This isn't putting the idea down, rather it is facing up to harsh reality. Which too many young so called pro-Khalistanis struggle with. Not that they will pull anything off, but give these dimwitted people a chance and at best they would create yet another puppet nation of the west in the region. You want to talk freedom and sovereignty, try understanding the concepts first. I'll let you internet kharkoos get on with it now. Remember children, do your homework before you spout your mouths. Help the movement mature.

Guru Gobind Singh Ji put it very eloquently but I shall paraphrase. If you cover your arm in oil and stick it in a sack of sesame seed, and if a musllaman takes as many oaths as the number of sesame seeds stuck to your arm..................... still never trust him! Every sikh girl who does what you have done says exactly what you are saying. But these people are nobodies “sakay” they answer only to their faith and once he has got you HE WILL CHANGE, not least because when his family find out they will make him see sense. Just think of your poor mother and father, they have no idea at the moment, for years and years you have been deceiving them, lying to them, playing away behind their backs, they are going to be absolutely devastated. Their whole world is going to cave in, for what? Dump him !

One thing we can agree upon, we need to be well read and increase our avastha. We need to also help the widow colony, the dharmi faujis who left their jobs, Singhs in prison, unequal treatment in Punjab, fix the cash flow funneling into the SGPC and direct it into the right direction, fake Sants who go abroad and steal money from people while there's poverty in Punjab, Sikhs who are poor and leaving their dharam and embracing Christianity and the list goes on... If we unite the panth, nothing will stop us. You dont need to read to see how the sikhs have been treated by hindutva and in between reading we can be taking action the widow colony will take care of itself there are many millionaires in delhi helping them without the need for your input Singhs will be released from prison once we have established a sikh worldwide government that will be first agenda and the singhs in jail are in chardi kala naam jap for the panth hence people like me coming forward every day they know their fate is in guru jis hands the unequal treatment in punjab will stop once we announce our intentions in the UN in the next few years there will be major A** licking going on let these people believe in these fake sant guru ji will take care of them and if these people are stupid enough to believe in fake sant their fate is in their hands punjab is one of the richest states in india we are major landowners and there is barely any homeless sikhs apart from the ones from up gurdwaras feed thousands every day this image of poverty is being spread by people who want to divert attention from the task in hand and spread negativity let the poor embrace christiantiy they are not being forced if the love for guru ji is in their hearts they will return I believe there is an unterior motive to all of this negativity I know of many Singhs who have been to Punjab and Sikhism is growing at an astonishing rate as are cars with depictions Sant Jarnail Singh JI Bhindrawale Sikhs are very very sharp Singh559 a lot sharoer than you give them credit for never mind your eyes will be opened in the next few years you stay on this forum spreading your doubts your pains and your negativity REMEMBER THIS A GURSIKH OF THE GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI DOES NOT HOLD DOUBTS AS HE KNOWS THAT EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS HAPPENS FOR A REASON AND GURU JI WILL TAKE CARE OF IT, IT IS THIS FAITH THAT DROVE SANT JARNAIL SINGH JI IT IS THIS FAITH THAT DROVE OUR GURUS WHO SUFFERED ENOURMOUS SACRIFICES DID THEY SHED A TEAR SO WHY ALL OF THE NEGATIVITY FOCUS ON KHALISTAN AND GURU JI WILL AID WHENEVER A TRUE GURSIKH REQUIRES IT AS I AM SURE ALL GURSIKHS KNOW ON THIS BOARD

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