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Yea if I'm not wrong whenever Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharaj used to have diwans or katha.All the animals would come and hear it.Truely amazing.??

none of our oldies married because of love and yet they managed to develop it , raise families etc to much emphasis is placed on 'love' when people do not understand what that actually is , they think it is something they've read or seen in books and films , it is not lust or the kind of mental idiocy that smacks of codependency. Love is the unconditional acceptance of the other person, nothing more or less, and that is closer to the ideal that Guru Sahiban placed in front of us rather than the romantic fantasies bandied about

Wait are you from UK veerji?Cuz that's what I heard from someone in UK that you are allowed to not wear masks in some areas but other areas you have to wear a mask to go to a store.

Lol in my place it's the same thing.Its compulsory to wear a mask and if we don't it's a 300 dollar fine.If we repeat the offence Its jail or something.

I love the Cobra Sakhi. Animals have souls too, some are so loving and can recognize a good soul. It’s really beautiful

I'm all in for an independant state, but how do we know that sikhs will have it easy in the separate state? What if the same people that are managing current punjab, start managing the separate state?

I have to wear a mask, otherwise we get a $200 fine, its really annoying and sometimes messes my dumalla a bit.

Want to warn any brothers, active in Sikh fields to beware of this guy. He pretends to be an open-minded person but has over the last year to my knowledge began to support ranjit ghaghri wala through his various media outlets. Ranj himself has been recorded during a phone call saying he doesn't beleive in Sri Dasme Patshah's Granth Sahib. Ranj a few years ago, also said that he will only do parchar dfrom SGGS, which made many people suspicious that he was against SDPGS. ghaghri no longer follows the SRM but this gurnam has made him out as if he does and that ghaghri is the innocent party. listen to the video proof from two of nekis fools: Anyhow this gurnam has started to advocate for ranj over his conflict with Sri Akal Takht Sahib. He works as a presenter for Akaal Channel. Beware of such people in your midst who are ever ready to shake the foundations of Sikhi. This essay shows the true nature of gurnam's views : http://asiasamachar.com/2020/09/04/33223/#respond to which this reply has been created : When we hear of, or read articles written by people with the esteemed honorifics of "Dr/Professor," we assume that the person in question must be a really well-read balanced individual with likeable attributes and personality due to their extensive education and research into particular fields. Indeed some, by adding these labels try to elevate themselves into some superior status, or level of understanding. Here we have one such example in Dr Gurnam Singh. He has written an article on Ranjit Singh Dhadrianwala in which he has made some observations that it would be wholesome to explore further. Gurnam's article is nothing but a defence of Ranjit. The first claim in defence of Ranjit is that he is a popular preacher with a huge following around the world. I'm not sure when and where numbers, or quantity became the benchmark of truth or honesty. Indeed if we were to look at quantative reasoning then there are millions who bow to Mecca every day, and millions who bathe in the Ganges on festivals. Does this give them greater access to the truth over Ranjit who has thousands of followers? In the same way, the Radha Swami movement has millions of people around the world. Why shouldn't we follow these people then? Gurbani does not prescribe to truth being validated by numbers. The second claim in defence of Ranjit by Gurnam is that Ranjit is a staunch defender of the official Akaal Takht Sikh Rehit Maryada (SRM). Maybe he was at one time. Ranjit has for some time denied that he was against Sri Dasme Patshah's Granth. For some, the suspicions arose when Ranjit stated some years ago that he will only preach from Guru Granth Sahib. Now a phone recording has surfaced where Ranjit states he has no faith in Sri Dasme Patshah's Granth Sahib. So therefore 3 of the 5 banis for Khande di Pahul according to the "official Akaal Takht Sikh Rehit Maryada (SRM)" are therefore not recognised by Ranjit. The Ardas of the Sikhs is not recognised by Ranjit either since this also comes from Sri Dasme Patshah's Granth Sahib. How is this a staunch defence of the "official Akaal Takht Sikh Rehit Maryada (SRM)" by Ranjit ? Thirdly, Gurnam refers to a "widespread feeling that the Jathedars, and the Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC) who employs them, are actually being controlled by a political elite heavily influenced by Parkash Singh Badal and his allies in the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP)." Now if this were true, politicians like Badal would be falling over themselves to acquire Ranjits patronage. Why? Because he has a huge following in Panjab. Politically, a person like Ranjit would be a huge asset to Badal. Politicians go to wherever there are votes. Did Badal not realise how important this was after the Dera Sacha Sauda helped the Congress to power some years ago? So why would a poltician like Badal want to cause any kind of distress to Ranjit ? Exploring excommunication further, Gurnam then states that this never happened in the times of the Gurus. I beg to differ. I know that Ranjit and his supporters have an aversion to Sikh history, but the point still needs to be made from a historical incident, where Guru Har Rai excommunicated his OWN SON, from Guru Nanak Nirmal Panth for changing Gurbani. From that time, Guru Sahib's son, Ram Rai, was banished from sangat and Sikhs were instructed to have no interaction with him. This decision making power passed onto the Guru Khalsa Panth, which they also exercised against Guru Gobind Singh, when Guru Sahib tested the resolve of the Khalsa, in Dadu Dwar. Throughout history, it has been exercised, notably against Sardar Jassa Singh Ramgarhia, and Maharaja Ranjit Singh. Akali Phoola Singh on hearing of Maharaja Sahib's trangressions ordered the Sikhs to have no interaction with Maharaja Sahib and that he was outside of the Panth, for which Maharaja Sahib apologised and took punishment, on which he was then forgiven. And then in 1978, the Sant Nirankaris. You see, it's very easy to throw around titles such as Professor, Doctor etc, but to be devoid of historical knowledge then makes for dangerous futures. People look upto these kind of people and think "that must be the truth, since when have Professors began to tell lies ..." Further on in his article, Gurnam, then resorts to emotional outbursts which have no standing or basis. These outbursts are based on their own ignorance, and when coupled with an audience of a subservient nature, seem to make themselves the reasonable party, and the other side the transgressors. Gurnam tells an outrageous lie, that the Damdami Takal, or the Sant Samaj "explicitly" reject the SRM. This is a complete lie, and one can only wonder how a "Professor" arrives at these conclusions. If the Taksal had "explicitly" rejected the SRM, I'm sure Gurnam can show us the proof. Taksal maryada and SRM is identical on most points. However the key is that the Taksal acknowledges the SRM in all the institutions that are controlled by the SGPC. There, there is no conflict. The Taksal follows its own maryada, which they claim was set by Guru Gobind Singh, in the handful of Gurdwaras they run. So, on the one hand, you have an esteemed "academic activist dedicated to human rights, liberty, equality, social and environmental justice" defending a person who has tried to hide the fact that he does NOT accept the maryada of SRM by denying the place of Sri Dasme Patshah's Granth Sahib, and on the other hand you have the Taksal who whilst not sharing 100% maryada with SRM, do not denigrate the SRM. What, or who, is behind Gurnam's effort to try and mislead the wider Sikh community? Gurnam then moves onto issues of religious interpretation. Ranjit views that "Kudrat is God." That the Creator and the Creation are one. Gurbani does not claim this in any way whatsoever. Gurbani says that the Creator resides everywhere throughout the Universe. Gurbani says that this world was created by the Creator. So how was "Kudrat" God when kudrat was not even created? Did God not exist at that time? If the earth were to vanish tomorrow would God vanish along with it? What about the Mool Mantar which says that God is Ajooni? The Kudrat is God thinking is strictly against the Mool Mantar concept of God. In Gurbani the world is described as transitory. If this is true, then how can creation be described as such, when Mool Mantar says it is Akaal Moorat? Then there is the oft-misquoted line, which is misquoted by Ranjit and repeated by Gurnam : "Man thoo joath saroop hei, apna mool pehchaan” or “O mind you are the embodied light of the divine, recognize this and you will know your true origin" This doesn't mean that we are God. It means we are a part of God. It doesn't mean that God resides in us, rather we reside in God. The world resides in God. The creation resides in God. The jyot that is in us, is also inside plants, animals, air, and the sea. So have these ALL become God? Or are we all, the creation, nature and space all residing in God? Gurbani tells us nature itself was created by the Creator through his Word. That nature is inside the Creator himself. This nature is transitory. The Creator is not. Because of this paradigm shift in the nature of the Creator and creation, in the orbit of Gurmat, especially where it flies completely in the face of Gurbani, Ranjit is facing opposition. He is not the first. The Sodhis faced it when they went against the Gurus. The Bandei Khalsa faced it when they went against the Panth. The Sant Nirankaris faced it when they declared their own person as above Guru Granth Sahib. The Radha Swamis, and Dera Sacha Sauda faced the same. So why is Ranjit any more special than the others that we should accept his lies about God? Then Gurnam, further to defend Ranjit says that Ranjit uses "focusses on those Shabads in the Guru Granth Sahib that explicitly challenge the prevailing ritualistic practices of the Hindu pandits and Muslim mullahs." Both hindu pandit and muslims rise early to make ablutions and prayers. So do Sikhs. We observe amritvela. But how is Ranjit focusing on this practice? By saying that "God created the night for us to sleep. How can someone ignore the kudrat of sleep to wake up and pray to Him? " So by that defence of Ranjit, maybe Gurnam could clarify whether he or Manjit, both don't observe amritvela now? It would be interesting to know. Gurnam then moves onto an oft-repeated slogan for their thinking - "Ranjit Singh's self-proclaimed logical, scientific approach to Sikhi" - science DOESN'T believe in God. Logic says that God does not exist. But let's give Gurnam the benefit of the doubt. Let Gurnam prove that God does exist. Logically. This writeup will be sent to Gurnam and hopefully he will be able to respond to this point first. Prove that God exists Gurnam. I'm astonished at Gurnam's claim to dedicated to environmental justice. Humans have caused immense damage to the earth's eco-system, and global warming is evident to see. One day us humans could destroy the earth or cause conditions to deteriorate to such a degree that life on earth will become extremely fragile. How could a human affect the "god" of Ranjit in such a way? Further on, Gurnam (and has previously on numerous occasions) refers to Guru Nanak Dev Ji as "Nanak." What kind of respect is that to Guru Sahib? Maybe Gurnam is used to addressing his own father by his first name, that he feels he can push his disrespect further. One of the most ludicrous assertions of Gurnam's in his article, is aliging Ranjit with Gyani Ditt Singh and Professor Gurmukh Singh. These men spent their whole lives learning about Gurmat, sikh philosophy and history. What learning/education has Ranjit undertaken? His only education was in learning sakhis and singing them to students. And this lack of education has shown when he tried to peddle his "kudrat is god" nonsense. When did Gurmukh Singh or Ditt Singh ever make such statements? In end, I would like to emphasise why Ranjit refuses to appear before Sri Akal Takht Sahib. He is afraid that in doing so, he will be exposed, and his own shop - he is so fond of saying "ihna dian dukana band hon lag pia " will end up closed, or visited only by cult followers. But lastly, I would advise all those, especially those with the titles of Professor/Doctor etc to not be so blinded by charismatic people of Ranjits ilk, especially when he twists the fundamentals of Gurmat.

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LA and particularly San Francisco are really bad! Loads of homeless people, full of junkies with syringes all over the place and people defecating in the streets. The middle and working class being pushed out by the ultra-wealthy. Mmm.. what country does that sound like?

I remember a Kenya Singh at uni, and he said he was Amrit-dhari, I think he was one of those KEnya sikh families that take Pahul at 6 years old. One day in the Students Union bar area, saw his friend messing about with his girlfriend with her sitting on his lap etc and he just mentioned it to him, and he said there's nothing wrong with it. Then he told me he himself had 2 girlfriends in the past, just had a further discussion with him and he couldn't see anything wrong with taking women like this, I wasn't clued up about grihast jeevan in those days. I know another Kenya sikh, and him and his Uncles seem to be ok going to strip clubs. Me and another sardar have even mentioned this, and he doesn't seem to care. Also he doesn't care when we say don't eat halal meat and makes stupid excuses. But from this thread it and some talk about Kenya sikhs being more liberal, I think due to being close to the British colonial masters, the Kenya sikhs follow sikhi in a more religious/ritualistic manner as opposed to sikhs linked to India being more dharmik, regardless of keeping kesh or not. Being dharmik you are less likely to lose traditions and less likely to do things like this dating mentality, whereas for religious people since it doesn't fit in the religion box they can do stuff like that after losing touch with culture. sikhi as dharam, as opposed to religion, helps preserve some traditions and culture as well.

Realistically speaking from them peoples point of view, how relevant and appealing is god and religion in today's time? Obviously it's different for us, but for vast majority, why would they find God and the rules of religion appealing when they are living the whole yolo lifestyle. Why give up party, s3x and alcohol and everything else that is pleasing and pleasurable to the senses, for a lifestyle of strict rules and refraining from everything "fun" and that the senses enjoy. It's easy to say that these people should stop it, but why would they lol! ?

talmud is the source of law for jewish nation, and judaism is a religion of laws like islam and lesser so christianity Talmud Permits Child-Adult Sex Talmud law permits sexual intercourse between children and adults. This doctrine is contained in a number of Mishnahs. Before we examine them, however, it is necessary that the reader be familiar with the word kethubah. According to the Soncino Talmud Glossary: KETHUBAH (Lit., 'a written [document]'); (a) a wife's marriage settlement which she is entitled to recover on her being divorced or on the death of her husband. The minimum settlement for a virgin is two hundred zuz, and for a widow remarrying one hundred zuz; (b) the marriage contract specifying the mutual obligations between husband and wife and containing the amount of the endowment and any other special financial obligations assumed by the husband. — Babylonian Talmud, Soncino Talmud Glossary Zuz is a unit of currency. We see, then, that a dollar (or zuz) value is put on virginity. Now let's look at a Mishnah from Kethuboth 11a: MISHNAH. WHEN A GROWN-UP MAN (7) HAS HAD SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH (8) A LITTLE GIRL, (9) OR WHEN A SMALL BOY (10) HAS INTERCOURSE WITH A GROWN-UP WOMAN, OR [WHEN A GIRL WAS ACCIDENTALLY] INJURED BY A PIECE OF WOOD (11) — [IN ALL THESE CASES] THEIR KETHUBAH IS TWO HUNDRED [ZUZ] … — Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Kethuboth 11a Soncino 1961 Edition, page 57 The translator, Rabbi Dr. Samuel Daiches, amplifies the text with footnotes: A man who was of age. Lit., 'who came on'. Less than three years old. Less than nine years of age. Lit., 'One who was injured by wood', as a result of which she injured the hymen. — Rabbi Dr. Daiches Let's review the above-cited Mishnah: "When a grown-up man has had sexual intercourse with a little girl, or when a small boy has intercourse with a grown-up woman …" It is obvious that sex activity between a grown man and a little girl, and between a grown woman and a little boy, is a part of the woof and the warp of everyday Talmud life; such relationships, in the eyes of the Sages, are unremarkable. There is no prohibition on sexual activity between adults and young children — it is simply regulated. Recall the words of the Very Reverend the Chief Rabbi of the British Empire the late Dr. Joseph Herman Hertz: Religion in the Talmud attempts to penetrate the whole of human life with the sense of law and right. Nothing human is in its eyes mean or trivial; everything is regulated and sanctified by religion. Religious precept and duty accompany man from his earliest years to the grave and beyond it. They guide his desires and actions at every moment. — Rabbi Dr. Hertz Thus, if the Talmud permits girls three years old and younger to be sexually used by adults, that is the law. The concern of the Sages is to ensure that the adult is not, technically speaking, in violation of any of the rules.

Every Singh I've seen just ties a black parna around their lower face. Nobody bats an eyelid. I do the same. Most people just want to get on with their life without hassle whether they believe all this is a hoax or not.

The guy on the left wearing purple shirt is an open atheist, I remember reading this posts on Facebook. Thinks kudrat is God. Typical Dhandri-Neki soch. If they don't believe in God then why carry on this Pakhand of pretending to follow the Gurus when they clearly don't. They don't care about evidence which supports Dasam Bani. They have downgraded the status of Guru Granth Sahib ji by simply calling it a Zaria(ਜ਼ਰੀਆ) to achieve a good life in this world and nothing more.

It’s disgusting that it’s so widespread and appears to be almost common esp amongst the elite and celebs. Our kids need to be educated not to trust strangers and sometimes even family members. I also have many family members who have been sexually abused as kids and have had friends who have been too. It happens more often than we think, and these people carry the trauma into adulthood and are often too embarrassed or scared to come forward. Very sad. Where in Jewish texts does it say it? I’ve heard there was a whole sect of Jews who followed a man called Sabatai Zevi and then a man named Jacob Frank who we’re into satanism and things like this. Satanism is big on peadophilia it seems and people like Alistair Crowley were best friends with people like JFK, Marylin Monroe and many other celebs. Just very strange.

I wear masks if I have to go into a shop or on public transport. However, I have seen people not wearing it in shops and on public transport. Nobody is enforcing.

How do you conflate me being an RSS agent? It's strange how one poster can for many years malign a group of people who make up 60 to 70 percent of the quam and no one says a single word. Yet one person stands up against it and people lose their mind. I am only reflecting back in a manner that cockney understands. There is a double standard on this forum. If you want to bash someone then prepared to get bashed back. Don't want to be bashed, then don't bring it up in the first place.

He sounds like typical old COMRADE ideology type communist. I usually see his facebook posts. Dogla banda - Two face type guy. Akaal Channel has a lot more dodgy presenters; specially the one in India - Makhu; who is a pure missionary and dissed our nitnem gurbani on his intervieew with harnek neki of new zealand. Video is on youtube.

i wouldn't neccesirally agree. My family came to Canada in the late 80s or early 90s. i was brought up with sikh morals but never got was steered towards amritdhari or orthodox path. my mom especially taught me about sikh ethics story of our gurus treating everyone equally, morals like no drinking no smoking treat every creature good. respect women upon entering junior high i was shocked when i my family moved me from my public school to a private school which mad mostly apney. during the time i made friends with few apney i remmeber being asked if i was jatt i didnt know what that meant. i also was told that a girl like me and to me this was all foreign i replied innocently i dont date im punjabi ahahaha. even going to SOME weddings of friends i have seen things that are messed up from the way the women dress to the antics but this is not really for all apneh. and i must note tht most apneh in canada r from punjab directly hardly any from africa here. most r rural sikhs from doaba or moga

Doabis have never been religious Sikhs, Hindus or Muslims, even back then they weren't, But they knew how to defend themselves against a over 70% of the population and drive them out, much of which was down to the training they received and weapons they kept on. Had Sikhs in Doaba not done much then there would of still been a massive % of Muslims in India.

Your family are from malwa, which has always been a sikh majority, my family are from Doaba which was over 70% muslims before partition, don't even compare the situations! Over 70% muslims were driven out by my people, it was the very weapons from the army that became useful and the very training that they received that became useful. same goes for Sikhs from Amritsar. majority sikhs from malwa driving out a couple of weak pakis is hardly an achievement mate! no comparison at all Had Sikhs not joined the army, got training and and kept weapons then Sikhs would of been in a far far far worse situation, like i said everything happens for a reason. Theres a British account of a train full of Muslims arriving at Amritsar railway station, the station was full of sikhs who were part of the army and all of them were heavily armed ready to fire at muslims, the only reason the slaughter didnt take place was because the train had a strong army presence on it, had the army not been present on the train then the train would of stopped at lahore with legs and arms sticking out of the windows and doors.

It's a strange discussion thread. The East African Sikhs are being called out as being too "westernised" and are held somehow largely responsible for corrupting rural Sikhs. However, as the world knows, it was the same East African Sikhs who spearheaded the turban campaigns in the late '70's - early 80's all the way to the House of Lords to ensure we can wear turbans in schools and lets be honest, as part of any uniform (because had they lost the legal fight then other institutions would have implemented no turban policy too). All this whilst these rural Sikhs from India were busy sitting in pubs with haircuts - maybe the East Africans weren't so bad after all?!

Guru Nanak dev ji and the cobra is one of the earliest sakhis i remember learning, must of been like 5 years old lol Its why paintings of sakhis are important imo because its how kids learn about Sikhi at that age. I read somewhere it was sheshnaga himself who took the form of a normal cobra to do seva of Guru Nanak Dev ji.

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I havnt been wearing it at all. No one has said anything. I take my mum shopping to Tesco's every week and I know a guy who works there and he said you dont have to wear one, even he doesnt wear one and hes a worker. But the workers told me to wear one when I went into savers and sports direct. I got black one, I take it with me just in case. I dont like those blue ones they make me feel like im a patient at a hospital.

Honestly In the last 5 months or so I havnt worn a mask in public. I wore it once in savers and once in sports direct because they told me to. I wore gloves for a week and then gave up and nothing has happened Imo it's all bogus

this is braindead you are making a mockery of the goth Guru ji bestowed on us ... besides the masks are a fail on fit