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Imagine a Panjabi couple with the surnames, "Bumrah" and "Bhatti." When the giani says the names of the families before the Anand Karaj, all you'd hear from the back of the diwaan hall is:

So thier is Sikh Family in Eastenders who are badly portrayed in very Indian stereotypical manner. the father of the family is in Jail. the Eldest son has Dastar(kheerat) the other 2 sons are mona's . The daughter is a doctor who is bi-sexual and in relationship with a muslim girl. The mother is just pure evil who faked having cancer so her kids would not leave her. The family run 3 business which are 1) call centre 2)convient store 3)landlords renting houses amongst this the youngest son is know for doing insurance jobs. The latest scandal saw Jags go to jail as he was framed (Robbery )insurance job which went wrong which was undertaken by the youngest son. jags was framed and reported to the police by his own mother as he was in love with a Muslim girl. is too far fetched and does not portray UK Sikhs Punjabis in the right manner. BBC

It's possible to be a 5hitty, foolish human being AND be educated. You've ignored the distinction. And our conversations on this forum should be beyond these childish and one-dimensional perceptions of the way things are. It's not the remembrance of facts or things of that nature that determine the issues I'm referring to, but an inner sense of temperance, foresight, genorosity of spirit, an appreciation of what's gone and how the present can determine what's yet to come, etc. There's tonnes of contemporary PHD educated Sikhs in the West, yet they're ignorant of the nature of the world around them, parroting the prevalent talking points of whatever the social orthodoxy prescribes as the way to be, like any other group. So their education affords them the opportunity to ascend the ladder of materialism; that's all that may matter to them. Fair play. Beyond that, they are as blind as anyone else.

Man, if you was at school when I was growing up, with that name, you'd have a hard time. Same as someone named bhatti who was invariably a 'batty-man'.

This. Should be the center of this and much more.

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nah that was your heyday

Weren't in your youth during Victoria times??

If you ever fancy a knees up. All those cockney songs seems to be about the old man, lol

If it represented the east end..there would be no white folks on the show... The signs would be Bengali and the queen Vic would be a gastro vegan pub or converted into a 'community welfare hub'

Their is too much Bhramin Bahsing on here some of it its mythical and plain wrong. dont get me wrong thier are some nasty crafty Bhramins out there and despite being one I dont really get along with them expect my family.(why are not Bhramins in the traditional sense as you guys might think) so let me debug some of those myths 1) Brahmins control India ? far from it , they are make u 2% of the population and dont get any special rights and reservations. 2) Hindus have it easy in India? Err no thier is alot of Hindu phobia in India . Hindus easily get labeled an extremists if they speak up. they are many poor Hindus living in poverty. Thier are many Hindu majority states below the national poverty line . 3) All Bharmins and Hindus are the same ? err why are not. The cast system is bullcrap and outdated many young Bharmins in India dont fellow the cast system or even stict Hindus' these days. in the Uk many put their ethnicity 1st ask Punjabi ,Gurjarti etc in essence Hinduism is not a religion , Ethnicity, nationality its just a way of life. Now back to me not get along with Bharamins . I dont know why maybe cause they seem snobbish and judgmental?. I dont get along with Gurjati's too.

Of course there is a limit to sports, but nothing wrong with enjoying a good game here and there. Some folks legit start to think they're more superior for not watching game.

Watching sports to the point where someone is getting heavily involved in the tribal aspect of "supporting" these teams is designed to displace the passion and mental energy we require for investing in serious, meaningful issues, and instead wasting it on trivial nonsense that will never provide us with the emotional nourishment a person needs to transcend this fleshy prison of ours. Once you reach a certain stage of inner growth, these distractions automatically fall by the wayside, as you realise that you need to devote your waking hours to genuinely important and meaningful pursuits before your time runs out. I say this as someone who was a huge football fan and "consumer" of other forms of entertainment. One day you feel, "Why the heck am I wasting my time with this bull?" ? You won't even need to force it. It just disappears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moc_4jHm45A

Not all football fans are alcoholics. Wolves is very heavily supported by the punjabi community. Manny Singh is one of our top supporters and attends home and away matches with his family

Kuar8899 (whatever her name is ) each time someone mentions India .

https://metro.co.uk/2018/10/19/huddersfield-rape-gang-named-at-last-after-trial-where-tommy-robinson-was-arrested-8050917/ Seriously what is happening to us? We used to be the protectors and now we are the ones who prey

Dally's playing innocent like he doesn't know. ?

It's at moments like these that I wonder whether Muslims have the right idea when it comes to keeping their own in line, relatively speaking. There's little to no fear of the consequences of working against Sikh interests and the general good. Sure, I appreciate that faith and devotion can't be induced or forced, but the way things pan out for our community is just hilariously bad. Told you those bandhar Singhs holding umbrellas over Ali as he performs one of his 5 a day would come to bite us in the chittar. Those kind of optics for a religion such as ours does untold damage on an international scale due to the reach of the internet. It perpetuates the idea that we're weak and pliable.

Wishing you all a happy Bandi Chor Divas and Diwali

There is plenty of help available for pstd. I don't think you are that far gone. with help, you can lead the life you wish to leave. Taking the 1st step is the hardest part but once you do it worth it.

what a waste of money. This money could have been used to help the poor but no Modi's ego will not allow that instead, he builds this useless statue

He is all politicians. can't be trusted. only interested in the rich

He should make a serious endeavour to discover Sikhi and then if he feels that this isn't for him, he should stop with the show. He's old enough to make the decision now. Even BoS Jagraj Singh said that when the kids grow up, they should make their own decision about keeping kesh. The roop is an outward symbol of convictions help deep within. The roop on someone without the conviction within is not only pointless, but dangerous.

there have been billboards of Harbhajan Singh, Dhawan, Yuvraj. Danny Batth a few years ago was the face of Wolverhampton

well if you did not make such absurd posts no one would have a problem with you.

you sure it was an accident? you might have pissed them off and they did it on purpose

I know I am not blaming them just trying to figure out why he would do such a thing knowing his community has suffered from grooming gangs. he is is a scumbag and cannot be defended.

I don't think this guy cared much about Sikh despite his image. if he did he would not carry out such actions. this grooming issue has been talked about in Gudwara as seen in Sikh channel where Sikh girls have been groomed by Muslims gangs. Muslims grooming gangs have been made aware of this and now trying to use scum guys like Amere to do their dirty work portraying a Sikh image. it is really worrying

Dhaliwal lol These people are a discrace and give all Sikhs a bad name. Its good he does not have Singh as his name. That would have beeen even more embarrassing. He is a dhaliwal. Basically a nobody and a loser. This way he has shamed his family name and not Singh name given to us. By Our Guru.

I'm assuming he was a mona before.

Come to Wolverhampton, we have large Sikh/Punjabi population in this city. we have about 7-8 Gudwara's. The majority of Sikhs live in upperclass area's and are well educated holding good jobs. The Muslim population is below average with an even small Hindu population . I am actually surprised there more Hindu's in the UK then Sikh(according to the latest. census) I guess they live in area's like Wembley Leicester etc.

There is really good Gudwara in Jabar Ali . The Sikh population is low in Dubai but there are Sikhs there.

hanji.

This is all the more reason to help young vulnerable sikh's who feel lost. This girl was clearly lost wanted her faith to guide her but her parents ignored her , if he had found a place this this online etc she could have been given the guidance she needed and would have had stronger bound with her faith. When people are vulnerable and lost like this then its most easiest time for people to radicalize them.

A sad loss to the whole community. Jagraj was very passionate about Sikhism and his youtube videos are very insightful. His contribution will not be forgotten. RIP

These groups only target certain communities because they are divided and weak. Do you see these grooming gangs targeting Jewish women? No because generally the Jews stick up for themselves. We've had our own holocausts but we remain divided. I know Jews who don't practice Judaism but they still identify themselves as Jewish (culturally). But our 'community' is too busy trying to appease and make money to care about identity . Likewise I know areas where there are lots of nepalese people in the UK and Muslims don't touch that community because they would go 'ape' if they were targeted. Same with many other communities that aren't targeted . As for the comments like Sikhi is a man-made religion. Ask any Muslim and I have from scholars downwards where is the original koran that was written by the 'illiterate' Muhammed ? Something like that would be held safely somewhere but it doesn't exist. It's one of the 'free miracles' given to Islamic scholars. There is no traceable record of the complete Koran back to Muhammed's time. For example the torah and old testament can be traced back (Jewish folk were pedantic in ensuring the integrity of their texts). Which is why the New testament isn't held highly by Christian and Jewish scholars as it was written a few generations after Jesus by the likes of Peter who had 'political' motivations behind what went in. Back to the Koran it was written by various scribes of Muhammed and then after Muhammed's death there were various versions that were brought together (based on written and memorised records). So if that doesn't make something man-made I dont know what is. Especially when you consider the people who oversaw this would have had 'political', 'economic' and 'power' motives behind what was in it (imagine the Saudi royal family being in charge 1400 years ago, and that type of person overseeing the compilation) . Part of protecting our community should be about educating our youth not just about our history but the history of other religions , so they can make their own informed decisions. You have to arm yourself with knowledge

The groomers come low down on the list, first to blame is the stupid parents who ignored their daughter's wish to learn about sikhi , then her fooliness to switch to following musley ideas rather than going online phoning up sikh helpline or something to get help finding sangat then come the Muslim girls who sold her out then the males who indoctrinated her

christian names are not all meaningless e.g Michael ('Who is like God?'), Daniel ('God is my judge'.), have meaning in hebrew Ruth means Goodness so maybe they pick name with good qualities , a lot of African christians still do this like Charity, Faith, Mercy , used to be popular in Victorian times too

This is a dumb little girl here. Not some evil monster.

agree with forgiving mindset if not the language , musleh love getting into our kids heads and it starts from primary school age so protect your kids by teaching about sikhi from the get go.

This all being said: This b1tch is young as hell. I've worked with this age group and I'm telling you, they can be dumb as hell. I don't even think this 1diot knows what she was doing in all seriousness. She's probably got special needs and her family background isn't exactly giving her the best start. I remember when those 16 year old hijabans run off to Syria from East London. A lot of people were very concerned and sympathetic about them. Making them out to be victims and too young to grasp the significance of their actions. But this exSikh girl gets none of that. This Sandeep girl was not born a islamist terrorist. She's been duped and it speaks volumes that she comes from a Sikh background. Her thinking is not her own essentially. This daft c**t is a victim here too. She's obviously very easy to manipulate with a highly susceptible, weak mind. I don't think we should be throwing her under the bus.

But in a way Im glad these jatt girls dont use Kaur in their last name but use their caste names mostly. It stops the great name that is Kaur from being tarnished while exposing the jatts for what they are.

Exactly. A utter discrace to real Sikhs

Unless anyone has been living in the Gobi desert over the last 20 odd years, it is clearly apparent that jatts are disproportionately represented in either grooming or running away with Muslim men - and this is despite accounting for confounding factors such as "most Sikhs are jatt". The other notable factor which we can't ignore is that the victims are nearly always from the Midlands. Which, for those of you who aren't aware, is notorious for having heavy drinking jatts (compared with London or elsewhere). The jatts openly boast about their drinking exploits, in songs or on social media. Heck, I still remember when they called into a discussion programme on Nihal's show on the BBC Asian Network, who was discussing alcohol abuse in the "panjabi" community: "we jatts have enzymes which metabolise alcohol more efficiently than other Asian races"!!! There are clearly a lack of strong male role models with strong Sikhi-inspired values in jatt families. Hardly any of their menfolk wear a turban. They're now paying a heavy price for substituting Sikhi for Punjabi culture, which, even to this day, they haven't realised. I visit the Midlands often because I have extended family living there. There is literally a pub on every corner, mostly owned and run by Punjabi's and they see it as a "badge of honour" that they spend all their time drinking. This is a hangover from the "black country" industrial age, when drinking was seen as a way of socialising in the early days of immigration (no other past times) and as a way of "rehydrating the body" after working in furnaces. However, that can not explain why 2nd and 3rd or 4th generation Midlands Sikhs drink themselves to cirrhosis and a disproportionate number of Sikh females (who identify themselves as jatt) vulnerable to exploitation.

More Jatti Punjabi bimbos doing bestih of Sikhi kaum...just like that other thread on the forum titled "Punjabi girls behaving badly" where the girl in the video was interviewed on a Friday night drunk on broad street talking about how a guy put his tool in the wrong hole... someone said she was a Uppal, the other disgraceful bimbos in the thread showing their general Punjabi bimbo attitudes and scantily clad pic's on Instagram commenting on were Grewal and Sidhu... Uppal, Grewal,Sidhu,Samra, Sanghera all generally Jatt surnames.. Combine this with your typical jatt family.. Not a single dastaar wearing male in sight except maybe a Grandad, most of the guys are heavy drinkers, smokers, they also think recreational drug usage is perfectly acceptable , quite common to hear jatt males boasting about snorting cocaine at weddings...like it's something to be proud of. The women are too busy watching star plus dramas or keeping up aa with the kardashians and getting their hair dyed blonde . Hence there are no strong Sikh male or female role models..Is it any surprise , these kind of families are producing Punjabi bimbos instead of Mai Bhagos ?? In the case of this Samra girl, sadly the Sikh Youth Birmingham page says she had a strong interest in Sikhi and spirituality instead of encouraging her the family dissuaded her . The result was she began to look elsewhere and was radicalised by Islamists. Instead of encouraging their child on the path of Sikhi the family dissuaded her....this is the sort of Punjabi wannabe goray westernised families we have these days...

she only became scum because her folks did not take her need for sikhi and appropriate role models in the faith seriously . 16 years old are still naive kids and easily impressionable , it is our sanjha responsibility to be there for such young seekers