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Islam is a peculiar religion in more ways than one. Another instance is that it happens to obey whosoever holds the gun or the sword at the point of time. Whosoever holds the sword/gun speaketh Godword. Everybody will finally come around to the same POV of the entity holding the sword/gun.

The rest are just like cows who have to be controlled either by the quran or failing that by the sword.

So in both instances, there is very little reason why you must enter into a 'debate' with such sort of people. There is absolutely nothing you are going to gain.

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Islam is a peculiar religion in more ways than one. Another instance is that it happens to obey whosoever holds the gun or the sword at the point of time. Whosoever holds the sword/gun speaketh Godword. Everybody will finally come around to the same POV of the entity holding the sword/gun.

The rest are just like cows who have to be controlled either by the quran or failing that by the sword.

So in both instances, there is very little reason why you must enter into a 'debate' with such sort of people. There is absolutely nothing you are going to gain.

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same goes for christians. They used the gun on all of south america back in the day. Christianity and islam, very similar even though they deny it.

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same goes for christians.  They used the gun on all of south america back in the day.  Christianity and islam, very similar even though they deny it.

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Not relevant to this discussion. If I point out to a person that his fly is open, and the person instead points out to me that my 'shirt is torn' is it all equal-equal ?? This is how my debate with Islamists go ! They will never justify what is clearly their doing...instead they will attempt to point out my weakness and faults as if, that is in itself a justification.

These patterns of such debates are all very well known, there is no point travelling down that path.

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WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

I suggest no one should get worked out,

Sikhi is true, and wether anyone else accepts it or not, the truth cant change, it will always be true.

I would suggest dont get to work out about it, coz if youve tried to tell them the truth- sikhi- n youve done your bit, theyll only argue about it again agin coz some ppl cant accept that Sikhi is true-thats how great Sikhi is, ppl jelous of it.

Jus hope God shows them the way to him, coz it not doing no good for them not accepting the truth.

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa. Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

firstly: i think you should know that calling people like Arunjeb "muslim" is wrong. i have so many muslim friends and they all say that they hate Arunjeb and they always, ALWAYS call him a moghal, not a muslim. there is a difference. they say that he wasnt a true muslim and that any muslim who forces someone or people into becoming muslim will no longer be considered one.

and veer ji...this isnt a really serious issue. the replies that the guy has given you shouldnt worry you even a bit. its ok. dont worry. he is just one of those people who dont try to understand. dont take it so seriously veer ji. believe me...i've been through many MANY worse things. and this is really nothing. besides...its only on a forum! so it shouldnt be that personal. people in my school come up to my face and say stuff about sikhi..im the only sikh in my school. (and im a girl who wears a dastar...) now think about it. do you honestly think that you should be paying attention to this guy? :doh: @ just leave it alone. its ok. you dont need guys like him in your life. you got other sikhs, like me! :) :doh: you dont need to waste your precious time and brain on such things. instead talk to people who will understand and respect everything you wish to discuss; not people who dont have a clue and who dont respect your views. just chill out veeray!

thats all i have to say.

i am really sorry if i have offended you veer ji. im just trying to teach you something i learnt from experiences. dont talk to moorakhs! it says that in Gurbaani as well. "Moorakh Naal Na Nooljeeai" we all read this every day...or at least i hope the Amrit-Dharis do. :doh: lol

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa. Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

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Right very much right ji

MOORKHE NAAL NA LOOJJIE

He is not a historian. Oh sirf tuhanu chherh reha hai...

he doesnot know afterwards jahangir was friendly with Guru Hargobind ji.

Jahangir ne Guru Hargobind ji ton maafi vi mangi si. **

Jahangir ne chandu nu Guru ji and sangat de havaale kar ditta si..

because chandu ne galat information ditti si.

BUT SACH NU KOI BADAL NAHIN SAKDA ..DONOT BE AFRAID OF THESE TYPE OF PERSONS.

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same goes for christians.  They used the gun on all of south america back in the day.  Christianity and islam, very similar even though they deny it.

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Not relevant to this discussion. If I point out to a person that his fly is open, and the person instead points out to me that my 'shirt is torn' is it all equal-equal ?? This is how my debate with Islamists go ! They will never justify what is clearly their doing...instead they will attempt to point out my weakness and faults as if, that is in itself a justification.

These patterns of such debates are all very well known, there is no point travelling down that path.

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In that case your fly is open.

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same goes for christians.  They used the gun on all of south america back in the day.  Christianity and islam, very similar even though they deny it.

126554[/snapback]

Not relevant to this discussion. If I point out to a person that his fly is open, and the person instead points out to me that my 'shirt is torn' is it all equal-equal ?? This is how my debate with Islamists go ! They will never justify what is clearly their doing...instead they will attempt to point out my weakness and faults as if, that is in itself a justification.

These patterns of such debates are all very well known, there is no point travelling down that path.

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In that case your fly is open.

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dont get it :)

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