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ok sorry i cudnt help my self but i think everyone wud agree when i say... darshan daas can kiss my <admin-profanity filter activated> (it rhymes in an american accent) tongue.gif

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Darshu would more than likely have taken you up on that offer if he was still around. LOL.gif

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ok sorry i cudnt help my self but i think everyone wud agree when i say... darshan daas can kiss my <admin-profanity filter activated> (it rhymes in an american accent) tongue.gif

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khalsa fateh

i think by posting views like that ure puttin das lali off this discussion and i realy want to see his reply to lion kings post.

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'Das Kirpa' You join this forum, after the creation of this thread questioning your 'guru'. How credible do you think you sound when you join a Sikh forum,  in a rude tone, asking others to keep quite. I'm not sure whether you are familiar with the concept of a 'discussion board'. It seems like you seemed to miss that part, and unless you have anything valueble to add, I suggest you stay out of this discussion :lol:

You have again and again been asked if you claim Darshan Das to be the incarnate of Guru Nanak, and whether he has ever critisized our Tenth Master. I do not care what is shown on 'Aastha Tv' since you have failed to respond to the above claim. Unless you can deny that such a remark (about our Gurus) has ever been made, Whatever is said on 'Aastha TV' is completly irrelevant (Out of curisity, isn't this the 'Asthaa TV' that coincidentially started with their yoga classes at the exact same time as most radio stations do Hukamnamey di Katha? Sounds suspicious....)

Bhull Chukk Maaf

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Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhana Sarbat Da Bala,

To all my brothers who have poured out their hearts into this thread.

I am disappointed with my good brother singh_comradz as we have meet before and spoke about the same things, as you all know I don’t live in the Uk, so even this news takes its time to travel to me, but my dear brother singh_comradz you could have emailed me and told me you wished to discuss the teachings and misinterpretations that led to the death of our beloved Lord Maharaz Darshan Das Ji, and in response to my dear brother Lion(LK)King question which he asked my younger brother Das Kirpa, above the answer is YES, we truly believe Maharaz Darshan Das Ji was a reincarnation of Guru Nanak Dev Ji, as it is told in Bha Ballas Sakkhi, and also the same divine power that was Krishna, Ram, Ali, Jesus and also Guru Gobind Dev Ji. Yes I know you all probably think I have lost the plot, but this is the truth either you can accept it or ignore it, and if you all come back to argue about this with me, that’s fine as I will think you could not even be bothered to read what else I have to say.

The reason why He was shot was quite simply that he took a stand against Khalistan, as He said:” if my beloved Lord Guru Gobind Dev Ji did not create this nation then who are we but mere mortal men to do this in His name”. He did not say anything wrong against the Guru Granth Sahib Ji, as he held it in the highest respect as He did with all scriptures of all faiths, and this is even practiced today, as we have Akhand Paths on our special days, and also celebrate every faiths special day, may that be Easter, Eid, Janam Namshtav or Viaskhi. Even I respect the two young Sikhs who came to pay my Lord Maharaz Darshan Das Ji a visit on the night of November 11th, as this was there destiny to do this, sadly this will not be reflected in history, just as the names of the soldiers who whipped our Lord Jesus Christ are no longer known, as they say its in not the name of the assassin that is remembered with respect but of the one who was assassinated, so they have done a great service to us, as they have immortalized my Lord Maharaz Darshan Das Ji, and for this I cant thank them enough.

We believe in unity on all levels as all men are created equal, we have a sangat that spans all four corners of the globe and represents people of all walks of life and faiths, as we are not here to convert anyone from their own belief or to impose our own faith on them but we want to help people practice what they believe in, and respect humanity as this is the foundation of being a true sevak of any faith. We can all sit here and preach to each other and compare how we are better etc, but how many of us stick to and practice what we believe in everyday and aspects of our lives, i.e. the simple things like being honest even to the point of ‘if I lose my head over what I know is true than so be it’ or simply helping others or doing good for a complete stranger, like helping a old woman cross the street, or giving a lift to a stranger, and most importantly expecting nothing in return. We can do all these things for our loved ones as they are dear to us, but how many of you will say: ’Yes, I try and do something good for someone else everyday of my life, and to be humble and honest.’ I would be surprised if there was even one of us here to say that.

The saddest thing is why you think or believe we are Sikhs, or Maharaz Darshan Das Ji or even Hazur Tarlochan Das Ji has ever said they were a Sikh? We are simply a Das, a servant of humanity. Please do not get us confused as we are not here to say we are right or your are wrong, but we all walk the same path to Gods true Sachkand. However we all take our own journey in reaching it.

Even our dearly beloved Guru Nanak Dev Ji said He has come for everyone just as did His Holiness Jesus Christ, as they came to deliver a simple message of peace, love , unity, humanity and most importantly One God (Ek Onkar). It’s a shame how us weak people forget this simple message and we all think we know better and build great Churches, Mandirs, Mosques or Gurdwara, and we begin to preach what we think is right, and forget what we should be teaching. Even if in some places the true word of the Lord Almighty is taught the moment we leave such places of worship everything we learned pours out of our ears, as we got lost in the false world of Maya, falsehood, pretence, lies and temptations.

Well for now I have said more than enough and I am sure after I return from my long weekend there will be more than a handful of response that will be directed at me, so if you don’t hear from me until Monday or even Tuesday at the latest don’t worry as just to busy to come back to you.

I wish you all well and until the next time

Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhana Sarbat Da Bala.

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huh i met you?! :@

which life time was that ji? :wub: @

AMDw AwgU jy QIAY ikau pwDru jwxY ]

a(n)dhhaa aagoo jae thheeai kio paadhhar jaanai ||

If a blind man is made the leader, how will he know the way?

Guru Nanak Dev Ji

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YES, we truly believe Maharaz Darshan Das Ji was a reincarnation of Guru Nanak Dev Ji, as it is told in Bha Ballas Sakkhi, and also the same divine power that was Krishna, Ram, Ali, Jesus and also Guru Gobind Dev Ji. Yes I know you all probably think I have lost the plot, but this is the truth

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LMAO :lol: :@

I find that hilarious, how can such cretins begin to believe such tripe!

Hmmm, perhaps i to am a 'reincarnation' Of Guruji! rolleyes.gif

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Guru Nanak Dev Ji's own father, or his sons did not believe and see WHAT he TRULY was. the people most closely related to him...dismissed his supreme being as mere waste of time...pakhand!

people are fast to point the finger at one, and laugh when they dont agree or see the truth...or maybe they jus dont want to see it.

Guru Nanak Dev Ji (and many other Guru's ... inc Guru Arjun, Guru Amar Das) faced opposition from members of there own family... that did not deter them...hence grew the Sikh faith.

It's a pattern that has always emerged within the spiritual world (Jesus, Mohammad, Sikh Gurus...were all mocked and abused in their time)...look at the following of them now...why do we follow them now, when they were mocked by our ancestors!???

Man always thinks he knows better than God...yet we are the fools.

peace

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Guru Nanak Dev Ji's own father, or his sons did not believe and see WHAT he TRULY was. the people most closely related to him...dismissed his supreme being as mere waste of time...pakhand!

people are fast to point the finger at one, and laugh when they dont agree or see the truth...or maybe they jus dont want to see it.

Guru Nanak Dev Ji (and many other Guru's ... inc Guru Arjun, Guru Amar Das) faced opposition from members of there own family... that did not deter them...hence grew the Sikh faith.

It's a pattern that has always emerged within the spiritual world (Jesus, Mohammad, Sikh Gurus...were all mocked and abused in their time)...look at the following of them now...why do we follow them now, when they were mocked by our ancestors!???

Man always thinks he knows better than God...yet we are the fools.

peace

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You compare these Kanjar to be 'Gurus' how dare you!

What power do these people possess that would lead us to believe that they are 'Gurus' none i tell you, none!

And you certainly can't be a Kaur if you believe in these imposters!!

ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਮੇਰਾ ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਨਾ ਆਵੈ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥

My True Guru, forever and ever, does not come and go. (SGGSJ, Ang 759)

Then how can a human guru liberate others when he himself is in the cycle of death and birth? His physical body which he claims as the guru is perishable. After one human dies the followers start following another person as the "true" guru. This cycle goes on.

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Guru Nanak Dev Ji's own father, or his sons did not believe and see WHAT he TRULY was. the people most closely related to him...dismissed his supreme being as mere waste of time...pakhand!

people are fast to point the finger at one, and laugh when they dont agree or see the truth...or maybe they jus dont want to see it.

Guru Nanak Dev Ji (and many other Guru's ... inc Guru Arjun, Guru Amar Das) faced opposition from members of there own family... that did not deter them...hence grew the Sikh faith.

It's a pattern that has always emerged within the spiritual world (Jesus, Mohammad, Sikh Gurus...were all mocked and abused in their time)...look at the following of them now...why do we follow them now, when they were mocked by our ancestors!???

Man always thinks he knows better than God...yet we are the fools.

peace

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Yeah we are fools no doubt but did any of the above mentioned have any ulterior motives?

Are you likening leaders of cults nowadays to the above, if I decide to wear a white chola and dastaar tomorrow and buy a real nice kursi and tell everyone that they will all die unless they follow me. Make sexual advances toward my female followers and make derogatory remarks against the tenets of other faiths. Will any criticism thrown against me be totally uncalled for??

Truthful living plays a huge part, i.e. practice what you preach...

No one can be on the same level as the Guru because the Guru (Guru Granth Sahib) has the power to grant mukhti, which no prophet, diette, baba, 'sant', maharaz can do and that is also in Gurbani. Any other bliss is temporary and passes with time, but the true maha anand (bliss) and contentment can only be obtained from the Guru Granth Sahib.

Furthermore, unfortunately people nowaday are led totally astray by people who claim that they are the messiah, 'sant', ambassador of aliens etc...

This is the case increasingly in punjab, people without knowledge on the basic knowledge of Sikhi blindly follow others who claim they are special in some way

and are in turn exploited, sometimes without knowing it.

As for criticism toward cult leaders today. If a few people are making it then it can be easily dismissed, but if a thousand people from all walks of life and with absolutely no connection with each other are making the same claims then the actions of that cult leader are totally questionable.

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umm how can a human body help u meet god anyway? Only guru shabad can...its quite simple if u apply logic to it tongue.gif anyways if i am wrong then where are all these elevated darshanets

until then darshan das can kiss my @$$ (and he prolly wud! according to kurtas)

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You compare these Kanjar to be 'Gurus' how dare you!

What power do these people possess that would lead us to believe that they are 'Gurus' none i tell you, none!

guru's dont need to prove their powers to anyone. kirpa in itself is evident when u have a belief. u people jus dont want to understand so therefore u wont. no point conversing with u.

And you certainly can't be a Kaur if you believe in these imposters!!

ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਮੇਰਾ ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਨਾ ਆਵੈ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥

My True Guru, forever and ever, does not come and go. (SGGSJ, Ang 759)

...who says darshan das as gone??? body is the temple...soul is the key ... which is not perishable....there is no death...there is no 'death' birth cycle like ur are claiming/assuming

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Then how can a human guru liberate others when he himself is in the cycle of death and birth? His physical body which he claims as the guru is perishable. After one human dies the followers start following another person as the "true" guru. This cycle goes on.

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for once you've made a comment worth responding too...

"umm how can a human body help u meet god anyway? Only guru shabad can...its quite simple if u apply logic to it"

A guru in a human form is ur link with God...thru Naam Shabd. where do u get this naam shabd??? thru a GURU only. this highlighted thru out the Gurbani.

...simple logic.

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simple logic: "A guru in a human form is ur link with God...thru Naam Shabd. where do u get this naam shabd??? thru a GURU only. this highlighted thru out the Gurbani."

So Guru Granth Sahib Ji isNot our Guru?? If you beleive Guru Granth Sahib Ji is Guru Ji (SABH SIKHAN KOH HUKAM HAI GUUR MAHIYO GRANTH) Then Guru Ji has given us that naam

We got our naam... GURMANTAR: WAHEGURU

Now we've got naam.. so why waste time finding the naam u alredy got... another example of simple logic :lol:

Ooooh By the way, In Sidh Gost, When Guru Nanak Dev Ji was asked: Who is your guru? Guru ji Said: SHABAD GURU. Its written in black and white.. just read it. 2nd example of simple logic: Read and Understand

So whats the fuss about..? wacko.gif

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for once you've made a comment worth responding too...

"umm how can a human body help u meet god anyway? Only guru shabad can...its quite simple if u apply logic to it"

A guru in a human form is ur link with God...thru Naam Shabd. where do u get this naam shabd??? thru a GURU only. this highlighted thru out the Gurbani. 

...simple logic.

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Any person with knowledge of the SGGS can guide you. There is no need for a 3rd party (or a human 'Guru' as you seem to think this is the only way!).

Through the SHABAD you can connect with Waheguru! These imposters teach you that only through a 'human guru' can you achieve mukti, this so they can have a large following and the donations keep rolling in! I should know!

Please wake up and submit to Gurmat! pray.gif

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...who says darshan das as gone??? body is the temple...soul is the key ... which is not perishable....there is no death...there is no 'death' birth cycle like ur are claiming/assuming

...

Then how can a human guru liberate others when he himself is in the cycle of death and birth? His physical body which he claims as the guru is perishable. After one human dies the followers start following another person as the "true" guru. This cycle goes on

Anyone who claims to be a Guru is destined for the couldron of hell. So that's where he'll be found!

Why is it that the women always fall for these pakandi!!!!

Comes as no surprise to why it was a woman who gave into the serpent in the Garden of Eden!

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simple logic: "A guru in a human form is ur link with God...thru Naam Shabd. where do u get this naam shabd??? thru a GURU only. this highlighted thru out the Gurbani."

So Guru Granth Sahib Ji isNot our Guru?? If you beleive Guru Granth Sahib Ji is Guru Ji (SABH SIKHAN KOH HUKAM HAI GUUR MAHIYO GRANTH) Then Guru Ji has given us that naam

We got our naam... GURMANTAR: WAHEGURU

Now we've got naam.. so why waste time finding the naam u alredy got... another example of simple logic :lol:

Ooooh By the way, In Sidh Gost, When Guru Nanak Dev Ji was asked: Who is your guru? Guru ji Said: SHABAD GURU. Its written in black and white.. just read it. 2nd example of simple logic: Read and Understand

So whats the fuss about..? wacko.gif

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Mate please don't, if you start mentioning these quotes from Gurbani what wil become of our dheras, and who will follow us?? So please i plead with you don't enlighten these blind of faith! :e:

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