France

[guruvah]

i thought france beleived in total freedom........i mean the way u want to live! :T: ..........actually muslimz are the target ....but at the same time...so that the muslimz don't point finger to the sikhz......WE ARE ALSO INCLUDED!

[Mkhalsa]

the thing is there is a hugeeeee backlash against muslims in europe.. why?

they are taking over..

all over europe, from belgium, germany, england, to spain, italy, you name it.. muslims immigrate over to these countries and settle down.. most of these countries are modern socialist democracies with huge social programs like free housing etc for poor.. so they come, illegally many times, and settle down, leeching off the state.. then many muslims have up to 10 kids or more..

the muslim population in europe is growing exponentially.. so people dont want to sound racist, but you can see whats happening here, its a purposeful and organized tactic.. family after family comes, brings their extended family and continues to have children.. more and more children.. soon muslims will rule europe and christians will be an even bigger minority (already a minority to athiests i beleive).. even atheists will become a minority.. so for european countries this is a big problem, the middle east could literally extend into europe and half the world would become islamic fundamentalist countries..

this is what they fear, and this is why such a ban is happening..

hopefully they make it clear that turbans are not head scarves..

[Guest mehtab]

Mkhalsa makes a strong point...and i think now many will feel "Oh if we had our own country we could educate people better about our religion"...and those who think so are not totally wrong.

[V]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

When I was in France, we had like exchanging thing, taht students from france came to our place, and I went to that persons place a few months later....

When I went to Norte Dam, I was asked by the guard to take of my "CAP" (I had my PATKA ON :St: ) I was really offende that he called the patka a cap n stuff, so my teacher ahd to talk to him n stuff ..

I was really hurt when I got to know that Sikhs aren't allowed to Wear Patka n stuff ...N I was there last year :T:

BECAUSE WE WERE VISITORS, I was aloud to have ma patka on....

But I would refuse to take it of if they wouldn't allow me to enter with it

NEVER, WOuld I take it off

But then again, it was a catholic school, so when i asked the princle, that if I lived there, would they allow me...n they said yes, (as it was a private CAtholic school).....

As studying in School is a compulsion in France, more Sikhs should move to France, and refuse their Children to Go to School without Turban..

n there would be loads of cases n stuff :T:

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[Balait_da_Sher]

the thing is there is a hugeeeee backlash against muslims in europe.. why?

they are taking over..

all over europe, from belgium, germany, england, to spain, italy, you name it.. muslims immigrate over to ..........................countries..

this is what they fear, and this is why such a ban is happening..

hopefully they make it clear that turbans are not head scarves..

Couldnt agree with you more veer ji. When i watched the report on the news my first thought was Dastars are next

[chamkila]

I think this is the start of thing, most of the people think that Sikhs are Muslims why because the School don't teach any one any thing.

I have see a big diffenence since all these musilm have been going mad, every other day we hear of story that this person was found to be a muslim terrison, look at the picture of these muslims for some reason they wears a Turban and have a long beard. Then look at Singhs we also have beards and Turbans. I travel to work by train to London City most of the people are White English people who I travel with, and when I look around theres at least two people looking at me in some funny way. These people must be thinking what is this fool wearing a cloth on his head doing in my country and taking our jobs or is guys going to kill us all.

The sad thing is that these mad muslims (not all of them) are making every one with a beard or some one that wears a turban/scarves on they head life so hard.

The School/Goverment/Sikh Group need to teach people the difference between Sikh and Muslim.

[guruvah]

manjot veer jee i think u forgot one thing!.......muslim men....they also LIKE CONVERTING LOCAL GIRLZ .!!!........to get their P.R!

[Dal_Khalsa]

Posted: Dec 12 2003, 12:41 AM

" Mkhalsa makes a strong point...and i think now many will feel "Oh if we had our own country we could educate people better about our religion"...and those who think so are not totally wrong "

I will back Rockak vir's point here. I think widout the manifestateion of KHALISTAN the identity of khalsa is endanger.....If v cudnot stop these things i doubt we will be visible after 20+ years....I no its sad...but tahts the climax seems to be like....So to keep our bani, banna alive the thought of khalistan is NOT totaly seems to be wrong. I wunder how many of u sport Khalistan'..I do NOW .thoug i wasn't in avour of this.

Fateh

And DO stay in chardi kalan

Arash

[kam1825]

regarding france i remember when i went there that it was an offence to carry the kirpaan.

however since the passing of the human rights act things have changed. I do not see them bringing out an act banning religious items as they would go against article 7 of the human rights act 200 which they signed up to which is the freedom to practice any religion and not be surpressed by it.

[Gill]

france seemed like a good country when it didn't go along with the war in iraq, but now it just took a few steps back