New Article: The Lustful Life Of The False Sikhs – The Satans Way

[Guest Akirtghan]

perhaps my definition and your definition of "satan" is different

also, bibi please stop taking literal translations as the absolute true meaning of bani

[Bored]

i c alot of crap at the gurwwaras with youth flirting and wat not....wats really sad is the singhs and sighnia doing it too.

[HHH]

Dear Brother/sister, I don’t have to justify myself how I know Satan exists. You must believe in Jamdooths and do you know that jamdooths are red, they have extremely large horns, and their body structure is very, very built. They appear fearless, stern and disciplined. There are other different types of devilish demons. The list can go on since God’s creation is limitless but there is no reason to. Sant Naraian Singh has also mentioned the Satan that exists. This Satan is just part of his creation; it is all in God’s play. Some Human beings are too against God, but does that give them the authority has high as God. God can destroy is creation in a blink of an eye, including Satan. Bhai Fauja Singh said, “It has always happened and it will happen always. Right will stand by you and devil against you…” There are always two forces working against us. This occurs when the mind is still divided. Listening to the mind is when we are taking the actions of the devil. The more we fight against the mind, the weaker the devil would become. If there is something wrong we do, the inner voice of Guru Ji will guide us to the right path depending on which force is more dominant. We only receive the direction of God at all times only once the devil vanishes, leaving us pure and victorious.

Take care and all the best

VJKKVJKF

fateh! ok i have heard another description of jamdoots!!!! i've heard that the have long hair, dress in black have chains etc.......... and u say that they are red and extremely long horns????

[N30S1NGH]

At the end of day, core problem(this applies to me as well) is lack of seva, lack of dedication towards sadhu sants/sadh sangat, if one is not pakka in these things, regardless if you are amritdhari or not , hormones exist in y(female) will attract hormones exist in x(male), every man has this natural animal instinct, lets not deny it, whether you doing the act in real life or doing act in the dreams or in mind, its same, you still doing bhog with opposite sex whether its in real life or in mind. so don't think just because you are not talking to opposite sex restrict yourself that you are chardi-kalah, once &^^$ hits the fan( thoughts in subconsicouness mind(antish karan) comes out then only one can see the reality. so problem lies much deeper than what bhaaji/penji club made out to be. Like it or not, forcing yourself to restrict talking is more dangerous than just naturally observing your thoughts and doing vichar on thoughts. If you force your mind to restrict you will end up like sexual repressed monger who want <admin-profanity filter activated> everything and anything. Thats more sickening and fully perversed in nature, from sexual repression - pervert gyanis, baba's and child molestors are born just be aware. Dont force yourself, just let the thoughts flow, ignore them, dont regret or feel guilt, just think of your mind as an ocean, once and while there is ripple effect in ocean, but eventually that ripple effect disappears. just ignore it keep doing seva, attending sangat of tat vedaie bhramgyani atamgyani mahapursh, chardi-kalah gursikhs, keep listening to katha of mahapursh, don't have your mind idle. idle mind is like a demon. Thats when thoughts from sub consciouness mind comes out (real animal instinct comes out), it boggles everyone thats why guru's talked about ajapa jaap na visraie in dasam granth and ) and mahapursh followed guru maharaj updesh and fully beleived in constant meditation and killed their subconsciouness mind (antish karan- man, chit, buddh, ahankar).

Also core of the problem is that this attitude that lies within youths that once you take amrit, no efforts are needed, like as if salvation is gaurantee to them. They dont know taking amrit only means to admission to high school, getting phd( bhramgyan) takes ages.

[N30S1NGH]

Also i dont agee with this whole trend penji and bhaaji business between youths, call each other penji or paaji only if you mean it , dont do uparo uparo(outside), say it if you mean it have enuf juice in your gut to stand by being bhaaji or peenji , act like one... i know loads of cases where singhs and singhanis call each other by penji and bhaaji, ending up marrying each other in later time, thats really sickening, what are we? do we follow muslim cultural traditions's now? marrying cousins, wordly sister.. commiting incest...sickening to the stomach.

[Pamma Khalsa]

very nicely said :TH:

At the end of day, core problem(this applies to me as well) is lack of seva, lack of dedication towards sadhu sants/sadh sangat, if one is not pakka in these things, regardless if you are amritdhari or not , hormones exist in y(female) will attract hormones exist in x(male), every man has this natural animal instinct, lets not deny it, whether you doing the act in real life or doing act in the dreams or in mind, its same, you still doing bhog with opposite sex whether its in real life or in mind. so don't think just because you are not talking to opposite sex restrict yourself that you are chardi-kalah, once &^^$ hits the fan( thoughts in subconsicouness mind(antish karan) comes out then only one can see the reality. so problem lies much deeper than what bhaaji/penji club made out to be. Like it or not, forcing yourself to restrict talking is more dangerous than just naturally observing your thoughts and doing vichar on thoughts. If you force your mind to restrict you will end up like sexual repressed monger who want <admin-profanity filter activated> everything and anything. Thats more sickening and fully perversed in nature, from sexual repression - pervert gyanis, baba's and child molestors are born just be aware. Dont force yourself, just let the thoughts flow, ignore them, dont regret or feel guilt, just think of your mind as an ocean, once and while there is ripple effect in ocean, but eventually that ripple effect disappears. just ignore it keep doing seva, attending sangat of tat vedaie bhramgyani atamgyani mahapursh, chardi-kalah gursikhs, keep listening to katha of mahapursh, don't have your mind idle. idle mind is like a demon. Thats when thoughts from sub consciouness mind comes out (real animal instinct comes out), it boggles everyone thats why guru's talked about ajapa jaap na visraie in dasam granth and ) and mahapursh followed guru maharaj updesh and fully beleived in constant meditation and killed their subconsciouness mind (antish karan- man, chit, buddh, ahankar).

Also core of the problem is that this attitude that lies within youths that once you take amrit, no efforts are needed, like as if salvation is gaurantee to them. They dont know taking amrit only means to admission to high school, getting phd( bhramgyan) takes ages.

[Simple Singhani]

I agree with Namstang! :wub:

[guru'sfateh]

thats all fine n dandy, but if something is against gurmat sikhs have a duty to speak up against that.

I find this statement from you so ridiculous and ironic; you speak like you know what gurmat is.

[JustME]

soooooooooooooo....................erm wot was the origional topic of this thread? :wub:

Satan pahjee kittoh ageeah? :wub:

[Singhni MiriPiri]

Maya isn’t known in others religions in depth whereas the Satan isn’t mentioned in Sikhi in depth. Every religion is confined by the heavens and three qualities. Islam believes in Allah, who is in actual fact Vishnu who resides only in the heavens. Therefore the Satan would be mentioned a lot in other religions more than Sikhi because he is confined to the heavens. Satan was actually a fallen angel. Allah/Vishnu told him that he has to get punished for his misdeeds. The Satan/fallen angel asked Allah if he could at least wait until judgement day. Allah accepted this. But the Satan said that before that day he will make sure all beings will go to hell and that he will try and take over the kingdom of heavens.

The Gursikhs are above the heavens, since the heavens are restricted to the three qualities and Maya. Maya is the shadow of Vaheguru, not Allah/Vishnu. She has enticed the heavens, Vishnu, and even the Satan. Maya is the agent of God, she serves him. However, unlike the Satan who is under her power, she is not against the Saints but in fact she is enticed by them. The Satan instead hates the saints, he is still confined to the three qualities, thus under the power of Maya. This is why in Sikhi he is not mentioned in depth because Sikhi is on a wider scale. In Sikhi one can become one with Vaheguru, so they become above the entire play/drama of God's.