Off Licence's Owned By Amritdhari's

[rupinder singh]

Do you think the great Gursikhs like Baba Deep Singh, Bhai Mani Singh, Bhai Taru Singh etc would have sold booze, ciggis and porno mags inorder to survive?

What happened to "sir jaavay ta jaavay, meri sikhi sidhak na jaavay"?

Wasnt Bhagat Tarlochan a butcher? surley if Guruji decided to include his Bani itno Guru Sahib, then we should learn from this. If the person has to make a living let it be as long as they themeselves do not drink or smoke it should be fine

I didnt include a meat shop in my original post! I mentioned booze, ciggis and porno mags!

Listen to some of Baba Isher Singhs Kathas on Gurmatveechar.com about karam and responsiblity.

[neech_karam]

Personally I think it should be avoided, Me and my family use to have a post office and use to sell cigarettes. But with maharaj's BIG BIG blessing we got rid of the cigarettes within a year. But within that year what happened in my family is undescribable. My parents use to fight day and night regarding this subject. Thanks to my mums nagging and a certain mahapursh's support my dad gave up selling cigarettes.

We still sold eggs and like small packs of the odd meat. Its a horrible feeling deep down. I never use to get my nitnem completed. I would be still doing japji sahib while I served at the shop on a saturday. It would take me hours to finish my nitnem, and sometimes I never finished including reharas. With a full off licience shop the hours a sooooooooo long. Like you have to open up at 6:00 in the morning for papers and like close at 8:00pm or 10:00pm like majority off licence shops. ANd then your sunday gurdwara goes aswell cuz ur in the shop and then you have to do shopping for the shop from warehouses and then unload it and then stock the shelfs.

Running a shop sounds easy but I tell ya its a headache and a half. No holiday, no family time and no time for your guru most importantly. I dont know how to explain it but it has a certain effect that the mind just thinks about profit and money. I swear it becomes CRAZY!!!! and then the illnesses kick in too.

A few recomendations - first avoid alchole and ciggz and papers, second to avoid meat and eggs. Then your thinking about all those chocolates and crisps etc with egg and what not, it just goes on and on.

IF YOU SERIOUSLY CAN FIND ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE BUSINESS WOULD BETTER THAN ANYTHING.

I just gave me views and my own experience, hope it helps. All the best

WJKK WJKF

[JustME]

Exactly Karam and Responisibity play a big part in this, mophlrkb sed in his post it like a copper definding the law and then going out and watching his own family commit crimes and standing by and doing nuffin...................

If you wanna live, breath and be in a sikhi way of life, EVERY aspect of ur jeevan has to represent ur faith.................not just ur jeeven but the example you provide to others.........

lol that reminds me of sumethings my massi sed when i told her i wanted to take amirt

"ur faith is ur faith and ur life is ur life"

ur faith IS ur life and its when we see this differnce between the two we suffer

[Balait_da_Sher]

Its not just about supply and demand. Its about supplying things to others which you would not consume yourself as an amritdhari.

Answer this, Would you consider opening a barber shop?

[Khalistani_singhani]

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH!!

well my family had a off license before too selling the full lot but the thing was that our family was going through sum difficult phases with the shop not making enuf sales as expected n other family stuf...we invited sum singhs to our house n they asked wat we did as a living n wen we said that we had a off license they told us to stop the ciggs n the booze etc in the end we jus sold the shop and got into sum other business

...but lyk the singhs sed our family problems ended n everythin wz bk to normal

personally i think having a shop doing that is not really ideal, i mean there are so many other things that u can do....

bul chuk maaf

FATEH

[guruji's_student]

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh !!!

well my amritdhari cuzns own a newsagents, but they had it before being religous!

im agasint the fact they have alcohol and fags etc.. as guru gobind singh jis horse didnt even go into te tabacco feild.. how can his sikhs touch it?

bhull chukk maaf

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

[Babbar Shere]

to say it is right? nope, def. not.

but to say it may be only option? yes.

if that is wat it has to come down to, then that is what it would be.

everybody has work in this life.

[Carpe Diem]

Its like...

there are jobs such as law - ure representing a client who is paying you to get them off the hook, even though they may have admitted to you or you know that they are guilty.

You could be an accountant whos asked to take on a client who runs casinos, gentlemens clubs etc.

You could be a truck driver who has to transport cigarettes, alcohol or meat.

You could be a designer whos asked to design a cover for an indecent magazine.

I think each situation you have to look at individually than totally rule it out...

[B4ND4]

Its like...

You could be an engineer who is paid/bribed to let a deal through.

You could be a doctor who is given good money to kill the girl child before birth.

[Harmeet_Singh]

theree is no way u could really survive is sikhi sense with an off licence was the maryada on touching cigarettes is strict, once uve touched a ciggarette you have to do full ishnaan lncluding kes, so u'll be touching them on a daily basis

even guru gobind singhs jees horse avoding going through a tobacco fieldd