Hinduism Will Eventually Swallow Sikhism

[Guest SatwantBeantKehar]

In 1893, in his book The Sikh Religion, Max Arthur MacAuliffe made this observation:

"Hinduism... is like the boa constrictor of the Indian forests." .... "it winds itself around its opponent, crushes it in its folds, and finally causes it to disappear." ... "In this way, it disposed off Buddhism," ... "it absorbed the religion of the Scythian invaders off Northern India," ... "it has converted uneducated Islam in India into a semi-paganism; and in this way it is disposing off the once hopeful religion of Baba Nanak. Hinduism has embraced Sikhism in its folds," ... Its ultimate destruction is, it is apprehended, inevitable without state support .

Over 100 years later, MacAuliffe's prediction still rings with truth.

My observations sikh women do Varts (strictly against gurmat - chore ann kare pakhand na oh suhagan na oh rann ).

Sikhs bow to SGGS and ask for material favors much like Hindus bow before idols and seek 'padarths' . Gur Nanak says

Nanak manga jakhana dukh chad mangiye sukh , Dukh Sukh doi Kapre pahre jaye manukh . As Guruka Singh correctly observers our prayers these days resemble a shopping list.

Nobody in India seems bothered to understand/act upon gurmat teachings. We read hundreds of books / newspapers / magazines but cant be bothered to read guru maharaj( Sabse upar gur sabad beechar ).

Rampant castism and tribalism /groupism - a very Hindu practise - MacAuliffe observes that in the 19th century anyone who took amrit and joined khalsa army completely erased their past - whether they were brahmins , chamars, khatris - no one knew and no one cared.

Even on sikh sangat we have people who proudly use a castist last name.

Finally its a big myth that as sikhs we shold respect all religions - let me ask you Bhanariawala has started his own religion - he is the guy who burnt Sri Guru Granth Sahib and ashutosh and nirankaris openly mock sikh saroop , principles and gurus. People who think we should respect all religions - by this toke aren't these cults very respect worthy as well ? Or wait a minute its only the older religions such as hinduism and islam that deserves our respect.

In fact gurbani is not politically correct at all and I see to your face shabads - Guru nanak says "ravan mar kya vada bhaya - sab upma teri jagjeevna "

In fact there are a few good things about other religions which align with sikh philosophy and we have no problem respecting them but a wholesale respect for a wide variety of beilefs and sometimes at contradiction with themselves should not be expected of us.

I pity the campaigns to restore pride in turban and stopping youth from becoming apostate when we fail to educate our youth about even the very basics.

[ms514]

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Read the above...Khalsa belongs to the Almighty...

McAuliffe also said that the Guru Granth Sahib would not be readable by the Sikhs, who had abandoned it for Urdu and Braj Bhasha. And here we are still. McAuliffe's estimate was that Sikhism would not last the century...here we still are.

Sikhi is here to stay...sorry, ain't going to happen.

[lowest of the low singhni]

vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh

Many people who call themselves Sikhs might be following Hindu practices but Sikhi itself can't be destroyed unless Guru Saheb himself wishes to destroy it. (Refer to Guru Saheb's Fateh as previously mentioned.) So thank you for your illuminating thread but perhaps it would be good if you also considered some solutions to the problems you mention instead of just accepting the fact that we are all 'doomed'.

In fact gurbani is not politically correct at all and I see to your face shabads - Guru nanak says "ravan mar kya vada bhaya - sab upma teri jagjeevna "

Could you please explain how this tuk of Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj, the King of the three Sikhs mentioned in your username, renders Gurbani as politically incorrect?

I pity the campaigns to restore pride in turban and stopping youth from becoming apostate when we fail to educate our youth about even the very basics.

If those campaigns were not in existence you would probably be pitying us too. Perhaps you could help to start a new one educating the youth about the very basics.

vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh

[anom7]

the youth dont kno the basics because the way theyre taught arew completly wrong

teach them about the history first, and the amazing things guru je did

and the amazing shaheedi tha hapepned, and the sakhees

then once the history is taught, then teach them basics, and how to read guru granth sahib je

the let them move further and further on the questions of life and onto dasam granth, and let them keep on learning their whole lives

the entire problem today is keep ure hair, or ure not a sikh lol

these divisions are not only wrong, but also dont make anyone do anything, and we allow a history that is the richest in all of mankinds history to be forgotten

but it will never be forgotten, as long as we teach our people

we really understimate how amazing our history is, read any history

i dun care which one it is, the past india and the maahabharath, the battle of themopyales, the greeks, the romans, american history, the british, jesus, any sacrafice or history is nothing comapred to sikhi

they are amazing in their own right, but the amount of brillian things in sikhi from the love and message of guru nanak dev je, to the shaheedi and sacrafices by guru arjun dev je and guru tegh bahadur je, from the insane way singhs were tortured, to the way guru hrargobind sahib and guru gobind singh je fought oprresion in amazing ways being outnumbered all the time with less weapons yet still winning and holding their own, hoow even til recent days sikhs have fought amazingly outnumbering odds and fought with amazing bravery such as batle of saraghari or 84, where even after COUNTLESS attacks by outsiders and the constant pressure to convert we have never folded and we only contunie to grow stronger, and the other countless things that are so beautful in sikhi

the way guru naanak dev je spread his message, the way guru granth sahib je is wrritten

no one can deny the bueatful poetry and the amazingly deep messages and knwledge contained within, the knowledge just seems to be more and mroe as u learn mopre

it has no end

theres so much to sikhi, we just jump on on [people with things like keep ure hair, dont eat meat, when the TRU reality of our religion escapes the very people who preach it

first explain to them the amazing history of sikhi, and guru nanak dev je

our youth will never b able to forget who they are, y wud u want to forgeT

[AG50]

I find it sad really that some people who call themelves Sikhs and post on these forums are filled with such negativity and arrogance. Hinduism will never swallow Sikhism. Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji maharaj is here for eternity, it is the eternal truth and will forever educate and enlighten us manmukhs. There is nothing more powerful than Naam......Sikhi is here to stay.

In every walk of life there are those that deviate from the path. So yes there are many people who call themselves Sikhs but still partake in Hindu rituals. Instead of being negative and saying that we are all going to turn into Hindus why do you not look at any solutions?

Education........my parents were not the best educated. In terms of Sikhi they passed on what they could and many questions would be left unanswered. I like most of you have been blessed with a decent education in a Western School system. This ability to learn has allowed most of us to eduacte oursleves about our Gurus and what Sikhi means. My point here is that we are in a great position to educate those that do not fully undersatnd Sikhi and deviate from the truth.

As Lowest of the Low said, unless Guru Saheb so wishes will Sikhi ever be destroyed.

WJKK WJKF.

[Hardeep__singh]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah, what a stupid observation? No body could beat our Guru Ji's and this <banned word filter activated> is observing that Sikhi will be absorbed, what a ******* joke! lol!

to Sikhi and To out beloved Guru Ji's :WW:

[lovekhalistan]

What a nonsense post.

Time when Gurus and Sikhs were giving shaeedi sikhi was growing.

Sri Guru Granth Sahib's katha that Giani Thakur Singh Ji doing please listen to it and you will know where sikhi stand today. Nobody can touch sikhi. Its just people like us

No Nitnem , No Rehat , No nothing and complaning.

[sherlsurj]

many people have tried to wipe out the sikhs. these people have either been killed by sikhs or died themselves. like these enemies of all , our enemies of today will also meet that same fate.

futeh!

enough said!!!!

[rupinder singh]

SatwantBeantKehar, whatever message you were trying to portray it’s lost in the pessimistic title you chose for your topic.

[caveman]

as long as there is khalsa nothing can touch us, khalsa shall always be here, nonsense post saying hindusim will swallow sikhi that would never happened because were singhs of guru gobind singh ji we r warriors nothing can defeat us not even death AKAAAAAAAAAL