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from my point of view, if we believe in seeing God in everyone then in reality each and every of us become of God. Then all this man-made relations that we have mother, father, brother, wife are all false. The reality is that they are all God. so we treat all as one and same.

if one falls in true love with someone, when i say true love, i mean true selfless love, where the lover will sacrifice his/her self for his parther. If there is GOD in the love, then even marriage between a cousin is not wrong. Everyone have their own unique destiny, everyone is different, everyone in different situations

so i believe this is the natural way of living. originally, human were made so as the other species and we were at top of the chain as you guys already know. so in reality even marriage itself is man-made. There is only one marriage and thats the real marriage with God, right? so you can only follow love with one person not all? when you fall in love with GOD, you love god in every part of his creation.

gurbani says when we go higher into spirituality, we go over the panj doots, the panj doots are defeated and they cannot steal our inner-amrit that we get from God. everytime we take part in the panj doots act (lust, anger, ego, attachment and greed) our inner amrit is stolen and our soul is hurt. our soul is hurt so we are hurt. for moments of selfish satisfaction we lost the true amrit.

so when we in higher spiritual state it means we are in higher mental state as well, no depression, anxiety, absolute calmness and control. We are stable. we automatically start to have positive thinking towards life and people around you. and then what you give to the nature while you are in that state, the nature gives back to you. so if we give love, we get love. if we give hate, we get hate back, look at history, people in different countries hating each other, which resulted in war, both died. so we have to give love to everyone, we have to go beyond religion, and see god in everyone. no, i am not the man-made sikh that some people tried to make, i am the true sikh that gurbani teaches me to be. if i need help, i go to the guru for guidance, if we are searching for the truth, how can we go to anyone other than a person truthhimself, the perfect satguru?

our parents are lost in rituals themselves, guru told us not to do rituals. We have made many things as ritual especially the kes bit. people just think now a days keeping kes is what sikhi is. this why people have hell in their house if their mind is sorrounded by the 5 theieves regardles of what religious ritual they follow. god is not about religious rituals, its about the truth. we come here, follow the truth gurus message and become one with God. the perfect state, the state of absolute bliss, truth and infinite love. the 5 thieves do not dare to come to the person in that mental state anymore. He's gone above from the animal state of mind to god state of mind.

sorry if i offend everyone but i'd like to share with you guys what i believe is true.

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I have come across this before apparently it’s done to get a Visa for a relative to come over to U.K. sick ppl out there need a few good slaps and an old fashion kicking with mojae like the ones Gabar wears in Sholay.

what a film!!!!!!!! lol

kithney aadmee see?

btw thats just ew marry cuzins..

but ye ive herd what veerjee above said, to get pukka in uk..

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....if one falls in true love with someone, when i say true love, i mean true selfless love, where the lover will sacrifice his/her self for his parther. If there is GOD in the love, then even marriage between a cousin is not wrong.......

Veer Ji, unfortunately the God-made laws of genetics don't agree with your view.

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Sikhs do not marry in their own family. Sikh Panjabis traditionally do not marry anyone with teh same surname, the same surname as mom (prior to marriage). Prem Sumarag goes into detail about it apparently.

It may be a case of "visa" marriages.

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there is no mother, father, sister, cousins, these are man-made relations. There is no other but GOD himself. and if you believe in these relations then you are believing in man-made relations. it doesnt mean we give up our family, i love them a lot, but i try and see GOD in them and not try become selfishly attached to them. so then in reality, there is no relationships. there is only one marriage between u and paar brahm. then you love God in everything.

matheen, you always argue back. sikh of the guru says to other sikh "come brother, share your views on GOD with me, and i share mine with you and together we find our husband beloved lord. but the world sits together arguing with each other and both being lost.

but when someone learns the truth, they do not argue, they come to spread the truth to the messages. individual who are arrogant and claim to know everything ignore them, slander them. who loses? the people, not the saint. the saint is already a winner coz hes achieved the goal of his life.

coz if you think you can use your knowledge in science to argue against the truth, then i willl share what gurbani taught me. brother, i am saying i am truthful, but i'd like to share what i think is true. and infact it is all clearly written in gurbani. if there is something i dont know, i never comment on it.

they say sir jave ta jave mera sikhi sidak na java, this means my head can be chopped off the enemy, but the sikh, within my heart shall never disappear.

some people take opposite meaning out of this and think head can go as long as hair dont go. but your sikhi comes from your heart not your image.

you fall in love with someone or get married according to your destiny.

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matheen, you always argue back. sikh of the guru says to other sikh "come brother, share your views on GOD with me, and i share mine with you and together we find our husband beloved lord. but the world sits together arguing with each other and both being lost.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

Veera, I didn't argue for the sake of arguing, but to show you a different point of view that is specific to the situation this thread refers to.

Marriage between relatives results in in-breeding and the chances of off-spring being physically or mentally disabled are very high. That's just the way God made things and we should respect His laws.

With regards to your other comments, our Guru has laid down how he wants us to lead our lives and we should strive to follow His teachings.

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there is no mother, father, sister, cousins, these are man-made relations. There is no other but GOD himself. and if you believe in these relations then you are believing in man-made relations. it doesnt mean we give up our family, i love them a lot, but i try and see GOD in them and not try become selfishly attached to them. so then in reality, there is no relationships. there is only one marriage between u and paar brahm. then you love God in everything.

matheen, you always argue back. sikh of the guru says to other sikh "come brother, share your views on GOD with me, and i share mine with you and together we find our husband beloved lord. but the world sits together arguing with each other and both being lost.

but when someone learns the truth, they do not argue, they come to spread the truth to the messages. individual who are arrogant and claim to know everything ignore them, slander them. who loses? the people, not the saint. the saint is already a winner coz hes achieved the goal of his life.

coz if you think you can use your knowledge in science to argue against the truth, then i willl share what gurbani taught me. brother, i am saying i am truthful, but i'd like to share what i think is true. and infact it is all clearly written in gurbani. if there is something i dont know, i never comment on it.

they say sir jave ta jave mera sikhi sidak na java, this means my head can be chopped off the enemy, but the sikh, within my heart shall never disappear.

some people take opposite meaning out of this and think head can go as long as hair dont go. but your sikhi comes from your heart not your image.

you fall in love with someone or get married according to your destiny.

Matheen’s absolutely right if you examine the Muslim community within the U.K; they out of all the South Asian communities suffer from cross genetics faults, deformities and disabilities because of this very issue.

You’re coming from spiritual perception yes we know everything is essentially the one but being conscious life forms we implement moral judgement.

Brahma the creator from himself created his daughter, who he had sex with. Shiva upon knowing this cut off one of his heads to stop his lustful actions. There is a very deep Katha by Giani Sant Singh Maskeen ji on this very issue.

We Panjabees have a saying

“Ma-ma’, Theeya, pana’ sanjia ne”

Roughly translated

“Mothers, daughters and sisters are equal” in respect be they yours or the next mans

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