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Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj!!

Exactly and yet we are busy with other bani besides Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee. Only Bani in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee is "Gurbani".

The above is a prevert logic fabricated by sex offender kala afghana.

Bani of all gurus is Gurbani. Those who do not agree to that should form a separate sect just like nirankaris.

radhasoamis.

Guru Gobind Singh jee gave "GURUSHIP" to Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee therefore Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee IS "GURBANI" from now on. We metha thek ONLY to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee as its now our "Guru" [Guru = Bani and Bani = Guru.]

bwxI gurU gurU hY bwxI ivic bwxI AMimRqu swry ]

baanee guroo guroo hai baanee vich baanee a(n)mrith saarae ||

The Word, the Bani is Guru, and Guru is the Bani. Within the Bani, the Ambrosial Nectar is contained.

guru bwxI khY syvku jnu mwnY prqiK gurU insqwry ]5]

gur baanee kehai saevak jan maanai parathakh guroo nisathaarae ||5||

If His humble servant believes, and acts according to the Words of the Guru's Bani, then the Guru, in person, emancipates him. ||5||

Though we may read from Bhai Gurdas jee vaarans or Bachitar natak etc , this does not mean that these writtings equal to Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee (Gurbani ie Shabad Guru).

The tenth Nanak sanctioned Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee to be our final Guru and therefore we know that to realise Naam (ie God) is to realise God through Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee. Guru jee gave us Gurbani in the form of Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee as means to directly and easily realise Naam.

AKrI nwmu AKrI swlwh ]

akharee naam akharee saalaah ||

From the Word, comes the Naam; from the Word, comes Your Praise.

AKrI igAwnu gIq gux gwh ]

akharee giaan geeth gun gaah ||

From the Word, comes spiritual wisdom, singing the Songs of Your Glory.

AKrI ilKxu bolxu bwix ]

akharee likhan bolan baan ||

From the Word, come the written and spoken words and hymns.

http://sikhitothemax...asp?ShabadID=19

Inder singh has been trying to say otherwise. He is therefore a nindhak going against the instructions that Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee is our final Guru (Shabad Guru/Gurbani). Guru Nanak Dev jee early on made this fact known to us that Shabad Guru is our Guru.

If I am not mistaken, Inder singh is also implying that one can only receive naam by 5 piareys. He is basically saying that naam is not everyones right.

What he does not know is that naam is already in all of us. Naam is basically synonymous to Shabad Guru, Gurbani, essence and power of God, atma/jyot, hukam, etc etc.

jyqw kIqw qyqw nwau ]

jaethaa keethaa thaethaa naao ||

The created universe is the manifestation of Your Name.

ivxu nwvY nwhI ko Qwau ]

vin naavai naahee ko thhaao ||

Without Your Name, there is no place at all.http://sikhitothemax...asp?ShabadID=19

Naam is not only in us its also all around us and Naam is basically the Sargun and Nirgun form of God.

gur prswdI vyKu qU hir mMdru qyrY nwil ]

gur parasaadhee vaekh thoo har ma(n)dhar thaerai naal ||

By Guru's Grace, see that the Temple of the Lord is within you.

hir mMdru sbdy KojIAY hir nwmo lyhu sm@wil ]1]

har ma(n)dhar sabadhae khojeeai har naamo laehu samhaal ||1||

The Temple of the Lord is found through the Word of the Shabad; contemplate the Lord's Name. ||1||

mn myry sbid rpY rMgu hoie ]

man maerae sabadh rapai ra(n)g hoe ||

O my mind, be joyfully attuned to the Shabad.

scI Bgiq scw hir mMdru pRgtI swcI soie ]1] rhwau ]

sachee bhagath sachaa har ma(n)dhar pragattee saachee soe ||1|| rehaao ||

True is devotional worship, and True is the Temple of the Lord; True is His Manifest Glory. ||1||Pause||

hir mMdru eyhu srIru hY igAwin rqin prgtu hoie ]

har ma(n)dhar eaehu sareer hai giaan rathan paragatt hoe ||

This body is the Temple of the Lord, in which the jewel of spiritual wisdom is revealed.

mnmuK mUlu n jwxnI mwxis hir mMdru n hoie ]2]

manamukh mool n jaananee maanas har ma(n)dhar n hoe ||2||

The self-willed manmukhs do not know anything at all; they do not believe that the Lord's Temple is within. ||2||http://sikhitothemax...p?ShabadID=4885

If I am not mistaken, Inder Singh is also implying that Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee is unable to provide us with certain things like certain powers (shakti) and therefore demeaning the power of Gurbani. He is implying that Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee's Guru Mat is not good enough or powerful enough that we need writtings like charitar pakhian to provide the missing link to make us "khalsa (pure)" !

Though my intitial comment yesterday may have confused some, Inder singh knew exactly what it was all about hence his reply made not long after. My observations of inder singh are gathered from reading his posts from various sikh sites and over several months.

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In My Opinion,

I would like to say that Kaur should only be used by those who have taken Khande-Pahul by Panj Pyreh. Though as 'culture and tradition' punjabis use Kaur and Singh, in Khalsa Dharma Singh and Kaur were Names bestowed upon Khande-Pahul Amrit By Panj Pyareh. How Great is Guru Gobind Singh Ji? HIMSELF took Name; Singh; AFTER Khande-Pahul by Panj Pyareh!! Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji!!

GuruGranth Sahib Ji Jagat Guru. Jyot of Guru. Khalsa is Jugati. Jugati is Very Important. Without Jugati, There is No Balance, no equilibrium in Life, nor a Principled Lifestyle. GuruGranth Sahib Ji is VERY DEEP. Even a Million Lifetimes and still an iota of GuruGranth Sahib would not be able to be comprehended. The Spiritual States within GuruGranth Sahib Ji are Most Exalted! The Jyot of Guru is GuruGranth Sahib Ji.

Khalsa is Jugati. From Dasam Patshah Bani the Martial Spirit is Learnt. Without Martial Spirit, Saints get plundered. And without the Saint Spirit, The Strong can be Evil. So First comes The Saint; then Comes the Warrior. Miri and Piri. Saint and Soldier. Bhagti and Shakti. Jyot and Jugati.

GuruGranth Sahib Ji is for The Whole World to Learn and Become Saints. But Not Everyone Can Be Khalsa. So Dasam Patshah Bani is For Khalsa. For the Warrior. But the Warrior of Guru Gobind Singh, The True Singhs and Kaurs, are Saints First. That is why it is GuruGranth Sahib Ji; the Guru of the Warriors as Well. From Sri Harmandir Sahib (Bhagti) One Cannot See Sri Akal Takhat Sahib (Shakti). But From Sri Akal Takhat Sahib (Shakti) one Can See Sri Harmandir Sahib (Bhagti). Bhagti is the Foundation of the Shakti of Khalsa. GuruGranth Sahib Ji is Always Guru of The Khalsa! The Khalsa Also are Given a Special Technology including Scripture for Jugati which Combines Bhagti and Shakti, making Khalsa; Dasam Patshah Bani!

For Example: Guru Sahib Gave us GuruGranth Sahib Ji. Pooran Jyot Guru. GuruGranth Sahib Ji is to be Sung in Raags. For these Raags Guru Gave us Instruments. But these instruments are outside from Sri GuruGranth Sahib Ji. But they are still given to us to live GuruGranth Sahib Ji. These instruments include Rabab, Saranda, Saranghi, Taous, Dilruba, Joree, Nagaara, etc. In the Same Way, our Guru Gave us Shastar (weapons), and Jugati that is DERIVED from Sri GuruGranth Sahib Ji; this includes Scripture for the Jugati of Khalsa Lifestyle. Few Scriptures for Jugati of Khalsa Lifestyle Include Of Course Dasam Patshah Bani; which will live in the Hearts of Khalsa Forever. We are also given Bhai Gurdas Ji Bani, Bhai Nand Lal Singh Bani, Bhai Gurdas Singh Bani, Banis; Banis that are APPROVED by our Guru Themselves. This makes up Tat-Gurmat. An entire Technology that includes Scriptures that is APPROVED by Our Gurus' From Guru Nanak to Guru Gobind Singh Ji; with the GURU; GuruGranth Sahib Ji.

Another Example: Our Gurus began the Martial Spirit of Wrestling, Horse Riding, Weapons Training, Langar, and many more beautiful Jugatis for Sikhs. These Jugatis Encompass GuruGranth Sahib Ji, are part of a Technology provided to Sikhs, and will be Forever!

Further Example: Our Guru Provided us with an entire new Community. This community includes a Flag, a Government, a Governing Body, Code of Conduct, Rules and Regulations for Conduct of Individual Life and Social Obligations, etc..etc.. Love of Weapons, Horses, a Martial Spirit, Celebrations, etc..etc.. Guru Gave us an ENTIRE Technology so that His Sikhs Will Never Need any other Support for Mental, Spiritual, Emotional, Societal, Cultural, Governing Rules, etc..etc.. An Entire Technology was Provided to the Sikhs Forever! Our Guru Is EXTREMELY LONG TERM THINKING!! Gave an Entire Technology for Past, Present and Future. Sikhs Will Never Need to Look Outside for ANYTHING. GuruGranth Sahib Ji is Our Guru; Our Center; Our Core. And along with our Center; Our Core; the Guru Gave us an Outside; a Technology; a Lifestyle; Jugati; Love for Weaponry, Love for Horses, Love for Shastar (weapon) and Shaastar (Divine Knowledge); and The Guru Gave us Scriptures Approved by Our Gurus' Themselves! Though the Khalsa is Centered Around GuruGranth Sahib Ji! Our Guru Provided Us with An Outer Shell as Well; Jugati (including Scriptures such as Dasam Patshah Bani! Bhai Gurdas Ji Bani, Bhai Nand Lal Singh Bani, Bhai Gurdas Singh Bani, Banis; to Protect Our Core; Guru!!

Our Guru Gave us a Uniform, a Flag, a Governing Body, a Government System, and Many More! Guru Started a New Panth. Panth means a Whole New Community. Communities are Complex; they require very Complex Variables. The Guru Provided an Entire Technology including Dasam Patshah Bani! GuruGranth Sahib Ji is The Core of Khalsa (Bhagti); Dasam Patshah Bani is the Inner and Jugati of Khalsa (including Shakti).

About Naam: Naam is Not Name. Naam is Beyond Words. Khalsa/Sikh is a Dharma. It involves a Gurmantar. It involves Deekya. It involves Sikya. It is very Complex. From Guru Nanak to Guru Gobind Rai; The Gurmantar, The Gur Deekya, The Gur Sikya, etc. was Done Through Charnamrit by Guru To Sikh. From Guru Nanak to Guru Gobind Rai a Very Complex Philosophy and Way of Life was Established. Guru Gobind Singh Ji FINALIZED the Final Roop of This Panth. The Final Form. This Final Form is Called Khalsa. The Gurmantar, Gur Deekya, Gur Sikhya Parampara was to Remain the Same as Per Khalsa Dharma; but Now Guru Passed This Right to the Panj Pyareh! And Thus Finalized to Remove All Doubts for Ever; Guru Gobind Rai Became Guru Gobind Singh through Khande-Pahul Amrit by Panj Pyareh. The Spirit of Akal Purakh Works Through This. Therefore the Naam is Now from Rehitvaan Panj Pyareh which includes the Gift of Gurmantar, Gur Deekya, Gur Sikya, etc..

Do Not Doubt This. Khalsa Has Been Given an ENTIRE Complex Technology! A Brand New PANTH!!!!!

Chardi Kala!!!!!

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Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj!!

Exactly and yet we are busy with other bani besides Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee. Only Bani in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee is "Gurbani".

The above is a prevert logic fabricated by sex offender kala afghana.

Bani of all gurus is Gurbani. Those who do not agree to that should form a separate sect just like nirankaris.

radhasoamis.

Guru Gobind Singh jee gave "GURUSHIP" to Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee therefore Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee IS "GURBANI" from now on. We metha thek ONLY to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee as its now our "Guru" [Guru = Bani and Bani = Guru.]

This is the whole bases of your arguement, but what don't you get. Your have rejected what you proclaim as your base. You reject Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji's Bani and in doing so you have also rejected Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji's Hukam of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is Guru. You can't pick a choose what you want of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji's.

So the last 6 pages or so of your rant hold no merit. You could present any Bani from Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji and it don't matter because where does it say Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is the Guru.

The fact you add Kaur to your name comes from Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji. Tell me where in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji it says to add Kaur. Tell me where it say to say Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

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If I am not mistaken, Inder singh is also implying that one can only receive naam by 5 piareys. He is basically saying that naam is not everyones right.

What he does not know is that naam is already in all of us. Naam is basically synonymous to Shabad Guru, Gurbani, essence and power of God, atma/jyot, hukam, etc etc.

UK Guptkaur

You have revealed your ignorance again. In sikhism the only way to take naam is from Panj piaras. There is no other way.

You are brain washed by kala fghna's atheist ideology. Try to learn something instead of wasting your time and others also.

If naam is already in you what are you doing here?

We are talking about taking naam in sikhism.

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UKGuptKaur is partially correct, Naam does reside inside the body. Of course, no one is going to believe me, so here is Dhan Guru Nanak Sahib Jee:

dyhI AMdir nwmu invwsI ]

dhaehee a(n)dhar naam nivaasee ||

The Naam, the Name of the Lord, abides deep within the body.

Awpy krqw hY AibnwsI ]

aapae karathaa hai abinaasee ||

The Creator Lord is eternal and imperishable.

nw jIau mrY n mwirAw jweI kir dyKY sbid rjweI hy ]13]

naa jeeo marai n maariaa jaaee kar dhaekhai sabadh rajaaee hae ||13||

The soul does not die, and it cannot be killed; God creates and watches over all. Through the Word of the Shabad, His Will is manifest. ||13||

Dhan Guru Amar Daas Sahib Jee:

iehu mnu dyhI soiD qUM gur sbid vIcwir ]

eihu man dhaehee sodhh thoo(n) gur sabadh veechaar ||

So reform this mind and body, by contemplating the Word of the Guru's Shabad.

nwnk iesu dyhI ivic nwmu inDwnu hY pweIAY gur kY hyiq Apwir ]8]10]32]

naanak eis dhaehee vich naam nidhhaan hai paaeeai gur kai haeth apaar ||8||10||32||

O Nanak, within this body is the treasure of the Naam, the Name of the Lord; it is found through the Love of the Infinite Guru. ||8||10||32||

Dhan Guru Tegh Bhadur Sahib Jee:

<> siqgur pRswid ]

ik oa(n)kaar sathigur prasaadh ||

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

DnwsrI mhlw 9 ]

dhhanaasaree mehalaa 9 ||

Dhanaasaree, Ninth Mehla:

kwhy ry bn Kojn jweI ]

kaahae rae ban khojan jaaee ||

Why do you go looking for Him in the forest?

srb invwsI sdw Alypw qohI sMig smweI ]1] rhwau ]

sarab nivaasee sadhaa alaepaa thohee sa(n)g samaaee ||1|| rehaao ||

Although he is unattached, he dwells everywhere. He is always with you as your companion. ||1||Pause||

puhp miD ijau bwsu bsqu hY mukr mwih jYsy CweI ]

puhap madhh jio baas basath hai mukar maahi jaisae shhaaee ||

Like the fragrance which remains in the flower, and like the reflection in the mirror,

qYsy hI hir bsy inrMqir Gt hI Kojhu BweI ]1]

thaisae hee har basae nira(n)thar ghatt hee khojahu bhaaee ||1||

the Lord dwells deep within; search for Him within your own heart, O Siblings of Destiny. ||1||

bwhir BIqir eyko jwnhu iehu gur igAwnu bqweI ]

baahar bheethar eaeko jaanahu eihu gur giaan bathaaee ||

Outside and inside, know that there is only the One Lord; the Guru has imparted this wisdom to me.

jn nwnk ibnu Awpw cInY imtY n BRm kI kweI ]2]1]

jan naanak bin aapaa cheenai mittai n bhram kee kaaee ||2||1||

O servant Nanak, without knowing one's own self, the moss of doubt is not removed. ||2||1||

Now I await to get bashed...as my point will entirely missed, as usual.

Oh and another thing, perhaps you all should let this go now. It's clear that no one is willing to stop posting, the thread been turned over it head in typical SS fashion.

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Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj!!

Exactly and yet we are busy with other bani besides Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee. Only Bani in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee is "Gurbani".

The above is a prevert logic fabricated by sex offender kala afghana.

Bani of all gurus is Gurbani. Those who do not agree to that should form a separate sect just like nirankaris.

radhasoamis.

Guru Gobind Singh jee gave "GURUSHIP" to Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee therefore Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee IS "GURBANI" from now on. We metha thek ONLY to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee as its now our "Guru" [Guru = Bani and Bani = Guru.]

This is the whole bases of your arguement, but what don't you get. Your have rejected what you proclaim as your base. You reject Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji's Bani and in doing so you have also rejected Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji's Hukam of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is Guru. You can't pick a choose what you want of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji's.

So the last 6 pages or so of your rant hold no merit. You could present any Bani from Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji and it don't matter because where does it say Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is the Guru.

The fact you add Kaur to your name comes from Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji. Tell me where in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji it says to add Kaur. Tell me where it say to say Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

Inder singh, have you attempted vichaar on Gurbani "ikv sicAwrw hoeIAY ikv kUVY qutY pwil ]

kiv sachiaaraa hoeeai kiv koorrai thuttai paal ||

So how can you become truthful? And how can the veil of illusion be torn away?http://www.sikhitoth....asp?ShabadID=1

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UKGuptKaur is partially correct, Naam does reside inside the body. Of course, no one is going to believe me, so here is Dhan Guru Nanak Sahib Jee:

dyhI AMdir nwmu invwsI ]

dhaehee a(n)dhar naam nivaasee ||

The Naam, the Name of the Lord, abides deep within the body.

Awpy krqw hY AibnwsI ]

aapae karathaa hai abinaasee ||

The Creator Lord is eternal and imperishable.

nw jIau mrY n mwirAw jweI kir dyKY sbid rjweI hy ]13]

naa jeeo marai n maariaa jaaee kar dhaekhai sabadh rajaaee hae ||13||

The soul does not die, and it cannot be killed; God creates and watches over all. Through the Word of the Shabad, His Will is manifest. ||13||

Dhan Guru Amar Daas Sahib Jee:

iehu mnu dyhI soiD qUM gur sbid vIcwir ]

eihu man dhaehee sodhh thoo(n) gur sabadh veechaar ||

So reform this mind and body, by contemplating the Word of the Guru's Shabad.

nwnk iesu dyhI ivic nwmu inDwnu hY pweIAY gur kY hyiq Apwir ]8]10]32]

naanak eis dhaehee vich naam nidhhaan hai paaeeai gur kai haeth apaar ||8||10||32||

O Nanak, within this body is the treasure of the Naam, the Name of the Lord; it is found through the Love of the Infinite Guru. ||8||10||32||

Dhan Guru Tegh Bhadur Sahib Jee:

<> siqgur pRswid ]

ik oa(n)kaar sathigur prasaadh ||

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

DnwsrI mhlw 9 ]

dhhanaasaree mehalaa 9 ||

Dhanaasaree, Ninth Mehla:

kwhy ry bn Kojn jweI ]

kaahae rae ban khojan jaaee ||

Why do you go looking for Him in the forest?

srb invwsI sdw Alypw qohI sMig smweI ]1] rhwau ]

sarab nivaasee sadhaa alaepaa thohee sa(n)g samaaee ||1|| rehaao ||

Although he is unattached, he dwells everywhere. He is always with you as your companion. ||1||Pause||

puhp miD ijau bwsu bsqu hY mukr mwih jYsy CweI ]

puhap madhh jio baas basath hai mukar maahi jaisae shhaaee ||

Like the fragrance which remains in the flower, and like the reflection in the mirror,

qYsy hI hir bsy inrMqir Gt hI Kojhu BweI ]1]

thaisae hee har basae nira(n)thar ghatt hee khojahu bhaaee ||1||

the Lord dwells deep within; search for Him within your own heart, O Siblings of Destiny. ||1||

bwhir BIqir eyko jwnhu iehu gur igAwnu bqweI ]

baahar bheethar eaeko jaanahu eihu gur giaan bathaaee ||

Outside and inside, know that there is only the One Lord; the Guru has imparted this wisdom to me.

jn nwnk ibnu Awpw cInY imtY n BRm kI kweI ]2]1]

jan naanak bin aapaa cheenai mittai n bhram kee kaaee ||2||1||

O servant Nanak, without knowing one's own self, the moss of doubt is not removed. ||2||1||

Now I await to get bashed...as my point will entirely missed, as usual.

Oh and another thing, perhaps you all should let this go now. It's clear that no one is willing to stop posting, the thread been turned over it head in typical SS fashion.

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Naam is inside, but it's only attained by attaching yourself to the True Guru. The Lord exist inside, but you can't attain the Lord without the True Guru. Please pick up on the subtly here.

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^ Right, that's why I said she was partially correct. Perhaps you should follow your own advice and "pick up on the subtly here" My last post in this thread, just wanted to bring something to people's attention.

Cheers!

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In My Opinion,

Just as there is water in the Ground, a Pump is needed to bring it out. It the same way, Naam is in the Body, but the 'Panj Pyareh' are Needed to Bring it Out. And The Rehit is Needed to be Maintained.

This is not going to sit too well with most; LOL!! But I will still say this. I believe that Sri GuruGranth Sahib Ji is Only Understood by those with Gurmantar, Gur Deekya, Gur Sikya, Etc. From RehitVaan Panj Pyareh. And all others Talk with Very Little True Understanding and Feeling. Patits (those who broke their vow with RehitVaan Panj Pyareh; committed Bujjer Kureits, etc) and still Talk of GuruGranth Sahib Ji, Just Hiss like Cobras.

But it Doesn't Mean Everyone Cannot Benefit from Sri GuruGranth Sahib Ji! Of Course Everyone Can! But the more they are Truly Benefiting, the closer it will bring them to RehitVaan Panj Pyareh and Khalsa Dharama.

Chardi Kala!!

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^ Right, that's why I said she was partially correct. Perhaps you should follow your own advice and "pick up on the subtly here" My last post in this thread, just wanted to bring something to people's attention.

Cheers!

The True Guru is the whole part. The stress is put on the True Guru.

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Papi

You have totally missed the point. The point is how do we get that naam.We are talking about sikh way

and not general philosophy.

In sikhi guru's way is the only way.So naam we get only from Guru.

suir nr muin jn AMimRqu Kojdy su AMimRqu gur qy pwieAw ]

sur nar mun jan a(n)mrith khojadhae s a(n)mrith gur thae paaeiaa ||

The angelic beings and the silent sages search for the Ambrosial Nectar; this Amrit is obtained from the Guru.

ang 918

Those who do not follow Guru are called sakats

swkq inrguixAwirAw Awpxw mUlu pCwxu ]

saakath niraguniaariaa aapanaa mool pashhaan ||

You worthless, faithless cynic-recognize your own origin!

Ang 68

So just posting one liner then disappearing from the scene is not a sikh's way.

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Kala afghna cult does not believe in instituition of Amrit sanchar. Their philosophy is based on doing away with this ceremony.

They do not say it openly but thrust of their arguements is on that.They say that amrit is bani only then why to have khande bate di

pahul.

By saying this they are rejecting sikhism.Sikhi stresses on concept of Gurmukh and manmukh. SGGS ji divides human in these two

categories. Gurmukh is that who follows Guru's way and manmukh follows his way.

Gurbani comes down heavily on those who ndo not follow Guru's advice.

siqgur bwJhu guru nhI koeI ingury kw hY nwau burw ]13]

sathigur baajhahu gur nehee koee nigurae kaa hai naao buraa ||13||

Without the True Guru, there is no Guru at all; one who is without a Guru has a bad reputation. ||13

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^ Right, that's why I said she was partially correct. Perhaps you should follow your own advice and "pick up on the subtly here" My last post in this thread, just wanted to bring something to people's attention.

Cheers!

The True Guru is the whole part. The stress is put on the True Guru.

Who is the true Guru?

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    • Amrita Sher gil, similar paintings to the ones of the bengali renaissance   i like the earthy colours she used. the people in he paintings look really depressed.    I remember seeing a painting of nihung singhs by her  but i cant find it now  amrita in her studio 
    • remember when the kar sewa babe tried demolishing the 200 yr old dharshan deori in the middle of the night at tarn taran darbar sahib, well 10 months on and nothing has been restored yet! no one has been arrested for the damage despite a complaint made.  Funny how the youth that damaged the statues of the dancing people at amritsar were arrested straight away, yet the people involved in demolishing a 200 yr old building at Tarn Taran darbar sahib are still walking around free. https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/10-months-on-no-progress-on-restoration-of-darshani-deori-in-tarn-taran-gurdwara/story-TUnzuVr5i9TtVxaJqbnRHK.html 10 months on, no progress on restoration of Darshani Deori in Tarn Taran gurdwara   CITIES Updated: Jan 30, 2020 22:55 IST Anil Sharma Hindustan Times, Tarn Taran A view of the partially demolished Darshani Deori of Gurudwara Darbar Sahib in Tarn Tran in on Saturday. (HT PHOTO)       Tarn Taran Ten months after Kar Sewa activists demolished a portion of the Darshani Deori, the main entrance leading to the sanctum sanctorum of the historic Gurdwara Darbar Sahib on March 31, restoration and preservation of the structure is yet to begin. Baba Jagtar Singh headed the Kar Sewa Group involved in the incident, but was not present at the spot. The only work towards restoration has been that the Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC) has formed a sub-committee of its members and subject experts for the preservation and renovation of this important relic of Sikh heritage. Gurdwara manager Balwinder Singh said, “Restoration work of the Deori has not been started as SAD (Amritsar) president Simranjit Singh Mann has filed a writ petition in the Punjab and Haryana high court. However, we have no stay order from the court on restoration and preservation work of the structure.” Mann has filed a plea in court seeking action against Baba Jagtar Singh and the activists, who, he claimed, had ‘destroyed’ the gurdwara. An SGPC member Bhagwant Singh Sialka claimed, “Experts from Guru Nanak Dev Engineering College, Ludhiana, have scanned the structure for its restoration.” No action against accused, despite SGPC panel indictment  The accused in the case are roaming free, in spite of a four-member SGPC probe committee’s recommendation of a police case against them. The panel comprised Sialka, Bhai Ram Singh (both SGPC members); Gurmeet Singh and Harjit Singh Lalu Ghuman (assistant secretaries). It had submitted its report to SGPC president Gobind Singh Longowal on April 5, 2019. After this, Longowal had said they will get police cases registered against the accused. The panel had held the Kar Sewa and the then manager of the gurdwara, Partap Singh, ‘guilty’ of demolishing the historic structure without its permission. It had also taken back the right of doing Kar Sewa (voluntarily religious service) at the gurdwara from Baba Jagtar Singh. “The Kar Sewa head had tendered an apology, and had claimed that he had not received the new order from the SGPC for not demolishing the historic structure. The probe into this claim is on,” Sialka told HT over phone. When questioned, if a police complaint had been lodged against the accused, SGPC chief secretary Roop Singh said, “I am not aware. I hope the manager of the gurdwara must have lodged a police complaint.” Gurdwara manager Balwinder said no complaint had been lodged. “The SGPC is not only shielding the accused, it is also playing with the sentiments of devotees,” claimed Harpal Singh, general secretary, SAD (Amritsar). Tejbir Singh, of Tarn Taran, said, “For trying to demolish folk dancers’ statues at the Heritage Street, police have registered a case of attempt to murder. For demolishing a 200-year-old historic structure, however, no action has been taken. This is shameful.” Quotes (if needed)   Restoration work of the Deori has not been started as SAD (A) president Simranjit Singh Mann has filed a writ petition in the Punjab and Haryana HC. Balwinder Singh, manager, Gurdwara Darbar Sahib, Tarn Taran The SGPC is not only shielding the accused, it is also playing with the sentiments of devotees. Harpal Singh, general secretary, SAD (A)
    • Samurai armour was really quite deceptive when it came down to appearance, it looks really fragile and not fit for purpose, but was extremely tough.  The Samurai developed a special lacquer which was used to toughen natural materials.  This enabled the armour to retain toughness and lightweight properties which enabled the Samurai to move with speed and agility.  They wore face masks that were intended to frighten the enemy whilst masking ones own expressions during battle.     
    • Today we have a major issue with Sikh youth walking into university classes like sociology and walking out extremist.  Whether that be feminist extremist or LGBTQ extremist or atheist.  When it comes to Gurbani these groups and people look for lines or a line of Gurbani and take it out of context to support their extremist LGBTQ beliefs on marriage,  gender being same or new thing no gender or infinite gender.  Like we had the ignorant couple from the states who got married by having his wife walk along with him.  The point being they dont follow Guru Sahib.   They attain 'knowledge' else where and want to force it on Sikhi.   The Sikh youth laugh at the Sikhs who bow at a fake baba's feet.  But, the irony is the Gurmukhs are shaking their head at both of them.  One is bowing to a fake baba and the other is bowing their mind by accepting secular knowledge that will always be in the trial phase.  Neither are better than the other.  The youth of today, and it's been done by a few old farts, attain masters or doctorate in fields like chemistry,  sociology or another field and then say we have a doctorate in Sikhi.  They write articles on what they want Sikhi to be and in their name they put "dr.".  Such deception is being done by these old farts.  Sikhi is about honesty, yet they start their article with deception.    If you want to be a Sikh, then Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is the teacher and classroom.  Not your sociology professor who tells you abortion of a 37 week baby is a women birth right choice, but dont kill that cow because imeat industry  is killing the environment,  go vegan.   In short,  dont be the monkey with the wrench. 
    • When it comes to other religious scriptures why did Guru Sahib say to read them? Was it to understand how to be moral? Gurbani provides us with spiritual wisdom and morals of the highest kind. It would be counterproductive to look else where for morals. Guru sahib says, give me your head (completely and only focus on the shabad) when you come on the Gurmat path. Guru Sahib tells sikhs to read other religious scriptures because when a Gurmukh has fully attuned his mind with Gurbani he can see naam everywhere. So when reading other religious scripture the Gurmukh can pick up on the naam that is there and serve the humans that are lost in the vedas, gita, bible, Koran, Torah, etc. Also Gurbani makes references on other religious scriptures concepts so we can achieve a total picture of their concepts when reading their scriptures. But many lose sight of the goal and start collecting merchandise (intellectual knowledge and maya)from these scriptures. But Guru Sahib says all merchandise can be achieved from Gurbani. Anand Sahib says this path is sharper than a double edged sword and finer than a hair.  The path of Gurmat can be simple if we follow the instructions of Gurbani or life can be made difficult by losing the purpose in life as Gurbani describes it.
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