Sarabloh Iron Bowl & Khanda (Sikh Baptism/Amritsanchar)

[KHALISTAN ~~(KALA-BARJ)~~]

VGJKK VGJKF...Sangat ji

I was on Ebay today and came across this Sarabloh & Khanda for sale on ebay.

In my eye I see this a wrong & disprespectful...please give me your oppinons on the link below, and if agreed this sale is wrong will ask seller to take off the listing.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sarabloh-Iron-Bowl-Khanda-Sikh-Baptism-AmritSanchar-/120659786134?pt=UK_Antiques_DecorativeAntiques_Collectables_EH&hash=item1c17e23996

Address & Tel No of seller can be found lower doen the page.

VGJKK VGJKF

[gurdssingh]

Please excuse my ignorance but why is it wrong? It states its for amrit sanchar so its being sold to be used for correct intentions. End of the day these items are made and then sold to use at amrit sanchars, gurdware dont get them free they have to pay, so why is it wrong to sell?

[desikharkoo]

veer ji, of what appears the seller is a sikh and it will be his moral responsibility to make sure that this goes in the right hands.

guys in uk, can reach him, otherwise of what i have seen in stalls outside gurdwara sahibs do not distinguish while selling any sikhi articles.

[SarabhaPanjab]

I agree it looks disrespectful as we hold these items in the highest regard.. but to be honest we have people selling kara's on stalls to pakis.. Khanda tshirts and flags all over the place.

We have a mock Baata and Khanda outside a Gurdwara where it collects rain water and bird crap.. how can you police all this?

I think we must start with Gurbani, and respect for Dhan Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj as a priority.

Many book shops still sell Gurbani in a disrespectful manner.. Beadbi of Maharaaj is still common.. we must fight this

[Khalasthan86]

We have a mock Baata and Khanda outside a Gurdwara where it collects rain water and bird crap.. how can you police all this?

oh, how did that picture get there?

[VanHelsingh]

If they put a glass casing around that, it would look quite nice. I'm sure the people responsible for its display regularly have it cleaned. If not they should. However it does look clean in the picture above.

[Premi5]

Is this disrespect to Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh ji?

http://www.redbubble.com/shop/randhir+vaheguru+throw-pillows?ref=shop_product_refinement

http://www.redbubble.com/shop/randhir+vaheguru+tote-bags?ref=shop_product_refinement

[ms514]

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

I don't think a non-Sikh buyer is going to be able to do an Amrit Sanchar with it. Also, while the Khanda/Batta can be used in an Amrit Sanchar, its use in the confines of that Divine ceremony is what makes it sanctified. A batta or a Khanda by itself does not have the same Divinity. They are the Divine tools used in a very Divine ceremony, but so is water and patasae made of sugar- we cannot control who possesses these tools much as we cannot control those who use water and patasae for other uses.

As for the throw pillow and tote bag - that's just ridiculous. Bhai Sahib (title bestowed to him by the Akal Takht Sahib) Randhir Singh was in firm opposition to his imagery being used in any fashion. There is a story of a Sikh who made calendars with his image in them. Bhai Sahib told the Gursikh to burn all of the calendars and to only focus on Gurbani.

http://www.akj.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=6530

[kamc]

You do realise that you can go to a fair few shop's in the Punjab and probably here in the UK and buy a Baata and Khanda, as already mentioned, you cannot police this kind of thing, there are more important things to get on with, starting with making sure that you yourself follow the word of the Guru.