Camp Being Held By Anti-Gurmat Group

[TuhadaDaas 92]

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh

I came across a poster for a camp being held at Guru Gobind Singh Khalsa College, Chigwell, the camp is being run by Tiger Jatha UK, I think that the school is only a venue. The controversial camp is being held 22nd-34th April 2011.

The Tiger Jatha UK are known for anti-panthic views such as doing parchaar against Pavitar Bani of Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj and supporting excommunicated "Prof" Darshan Ragi. Search this forum for more info on their anti-panthic, anti-gurmat views and activites.

It is simply that this is known to be a group with very controversial views and such controversy has not been resolved with the rest of the community. For this reason it does not seem right that such a group should be able to have access to young people to teach them views which have not been deemed acceptable by the panth.

I think the best and most orderly solution would be to calmly phone Guru Gobind Singh Khalsa College and request them not to allow the camp to be held for the above mentioned reasons. This is a simple matter that can be resolved peacefully and calmly without the need for any sort of agression, verbal or physical (it feels like this must be said as we do seem to have some very hot headed members in the Sikh community).

The phone number for Guru Gobind Singh Khalsa College, Chigwell is: 0208 559 9160

Poster for the questionable camp:

[hsisingh 17]

Do you have some history with this group?

I don't know them part from seeing a few youtube videos - and in some cases, they seem to have exposed dodgy gurus (e.g. the Balak nath guy in Coventry).

[GPS 1,309]

Do you have some history with this group?

I don't know them part from seeing a few youtube videos - and in some cases, they seem to have exposed dodgy gurus (e.g. the Balak nath guy in Coventry).

Their only history is support to anti paqnthic elements such as Ragi Drahsna singh, condemning bani of Dasam pita in a rogue's language, trying to preach gurmat while their appearance tells us they themselves are manmujkhs.

[Bundha 616]

A quick google on tiger jatha shows various youtube entries where they interview dilgaar, so definately anti-Dasam Granth Ji group. Contact the college, however they may already be in league with this group. :angry2:

[Only five 1,122]

The Tiger Jatha group are in support of Darshan Ragi, who attacked Bhagat Bani in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. Nothing good can come from such people, they are all interested in furthering their manmat thinking.

http://www.panthic.org/articles/5342

[GPS 1,309]

How can they conduct a gurmat camp when they themselves do not know a, b,c of sikhi.?

[TuhadaDaas 92]

Has anyone actually phoned? As they say prevention is better than the cure. It is better if we can convince the Khalsa College not to allow Tiger Group to hold the camp well in advance, rather than the camp go ahead and then people raise their concerns.

[TuhadaDaas 92]

***BREAKING NEWS* Reports are circulating that the camp is going to be attended by the notorious, excommunicated 'Professor' Darshan Singh. This camp should be cancelled. Everyone should phone Khalsa College and urge them not to host the camp.

[BhaiSukhSingh 7]

spoken t the khalsa college headmaster mr toor and he says no he will not be attending please contact vhai sahib respectivley *no personal numbers allowed, sorry!*

[Singh559 2,628]

Keep the protests chill and issue related only, no personal attacks. That's not something for a Sikh to do, my suggestion would be to rip off Dasam Granth informational videos and burn them to VCDs DVDs and distribute them to the sangat there. Sikh are amazing because "Sikh hamesha sach de paire te thurde a". Dushmani aali gal Sikh laiye teek nai menoo lagdi.

if you do it in a cool manner i am confident you will get respect from people who attend, even if you don't get it from the people who are organizing it and sometime in the future they may even realize it. If you just retort to personal violence attacks (even verbal attacks are violent) it's the same as admitting defeat. The goal should be to inform/protect Guru Ji's bani and not to intimidate or bring about personal attacks...

Here are some vids you can rip and burn onto a VCD/DVD, if you need help how to rip i can help out. Good luck at the protests.

Dr. Mohinder Kaur Gill on Sri Dasam Granth and Charitropakhiyaan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IBzz1BwMKo

Dr. Jodh Singh Dasam Granth Seminar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC3al5C6g_w

Dr. Jodh Singh reply to ragi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE2bldtWucc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCWqdyu9QFE&

Dr. Jodh Singh (Dasam Granth likhan d ki lord si)
3 parts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWRhVW5rKe8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1fy3uRi7lM&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ0gWPInfd0

Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindranwale Khalsa explaining mahakaal from Bachittar Natak:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d8yYxmcGUI

Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindranwale Khalsa Dasam Granth Katha:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBR98oUq5J4


Giani Singh Singh ji Maskeen kaam (Sri Dasam Granth)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-boI7pfPdtg&playnext=1&list=PL59B136AC76AB15D9

[11Gurus1Jot 175]

Are any of these posters being hung up in any of the gurdware? If so, why not just pull them down? Even better, why not just put posters up in each Gurdwara, behind the glass cabinet, telling the Sangat that they should not allow anybody to attend this camp? I sure the Gurdwara Committee will let you put up the posters against this camp, as the Gurdwara Committee will not be anti-Gurmat, will they?

[Mahakal 7]

Havelock and Park Ave have posters up and are telling kirtanees to advertise it on stage

[.- Prabhjot Singh -. 914]

These guys cant even write Guruji Maharajs bachans correctly, just what are they going to preach others? Look at the poster, they have deliberately put a bindi under 'Sabad' AND 'Baani' is spelt wrong:

while the original Sri Tukk is like this:

ਇਕਾ ਬਾਣੀ ਇਕੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਇਕੋ ਸਬਦੁ ਵੀਚਾਰਿ ॥

In fact, Sri Guruji Maharaj have not used ਸ with a Bindi anywhere in the entire Mool Paath of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj.

Sangat Jeo I dont believe it is a typographical error. Some may say its not a big issue, but altering the Mool Paath of our Sri Shabad Guru is nothing short of blasphemy in my eyes. It also reveals their subtle visual attempts at implementing their hidden Bhausaria agenda of destroying the Sikh Panth from its very roots.

Be very, very careful of these sheeps in lions skin.

[GuruManeyoGranth 20]

Vahiguroo. This is all very sad.

[JagtarSinghKhalsa 229]

Vahiguroo. This is all very sad.

Am in Vancouver, but have heard there is no booking for the camp at the College and this may be a hoax.

Can some local Singhs confirm this is the case.