Virgin Mary In Gurdwara

[Sheepdog]

Those of you who follow "Mr SikhNet" aka Gurumustuk Singh can find the image recently (13 hrs ago) posted on his facebook (Gurumustuk Singh) under an album he recently started called Ishnaan Seva (Still on his wall if you browse down)

Ishnaan Seva By Gurumustuk Singh · 4 of 33

The image in question is image 4 of 33.

The picture appears to be taken while they are doing seva in the gurdwara and from the other pictures it is clearly inside the gurdwara, to the right you can make out some pictures which are pictures of the Guru's and on the far end right you can see a picture of a shaheed. On the actual virgin mary poster she is surrounded by pictures of unidentified singhs but left of that picture seems to be an older-style painting of Guru Ji's and It seems there is also a picture of Guru Ji meditating on both sides of the Virgin Mary picture.

Please do investigate/contact Gurumustuk and find explanations and update us in this thread.

Here is an embedded image just to preserve it, if he decides to take it down.

[Matheen]

How do you know that it's Mary? Could be a Singhni.

Since you have acceess to him through facebook, wouldn't it have been better to contact him directly? All that happens these days is stuff gets posted on the net but nobody is man enough to directly tackle issues. We're always waiting for someone else to read what we post and hopefully sort stuff out.

Just speaking generally, not you in particular.

[Sheepdog]

Here is the same picture of Virgin Mary:

Secondly,Matheen-- I have already Contacted him via Facebook message... How about you stop assuming? Also, how about you google "virgin mary" yourself before typing a paragraph and answering your own question if it's a Singhni.

Have you contacted him yourself? If not, what have you done in your paragraph than criticize me when you could have wrote something to him as well?

Edit: Since you are also a moderator it is quite interesting being a moderator on a Sikh forum but you cannot distinguish a Singhni from a common Virgin Mary picture.

[ParwinderSingh]

looks like a holy women, many women from pinds in punjab wear a range of colours and their clothes also cover their body maybe you dont see that in the west as much, in fact I have seen many very spiritual women who are sikhs who would look like that

ok teekya they aren't wearing a dastar but the picture makes me think of a motherly figure, royal and majestic and yea like a singhni

there is so much you can take from that, one could be all those bibiyan who sacrificed their children for sikhi

rather than fight on here we should do one chaupai.....(including myself)

[Matheen]

Actually, having been to a Catholic run school, I'm pretty familiar with the depictions of Mary. In that mural, the image depicts something different - there are images from other dharams also included. I'm not saying it is right or wrong to have it in a Gurudwara, but increasingly, we're turning into a bunch of internet warriors. If you've been reading the forum in the last few days, you know what I mean.

It's good you contacted him, let us know what he says.

What I do know is that at Amritvela, when those pictures were taken, even the Gyani at my local Gurudwara isn't awake, lol. Sometimes, we miss the positive and see only the negative.

[BhaiSukhSingh]

the new generation 3HO "sikhs" r a disgrace if it aint dancing doing bhangra putting pumpins over dastaar seats in darbar sahib gurus names given to the people that take amrit its Pictures of Guru Sahibs around MARY !!!! the list goes on

If Yogi Bhajan was seeing this now.................................................................

P.S theres a close up of this pic on his faceboo page and u can clearly see its a pic of Mary with the Gurus around her wat is ment to repersent ??? that Mary is the one and the Guru are around her !!!!

[Sheepdog]

Here is the high-resolution of the image:

Yes there are two hindu images at the top on each side of Virgin Mary with Guru Nanak Dev Ji on the left below and a Guru Gobind Singh Ji on the right

On the left it seems some "divine light" is carrying a khanda that transforms into a Virgin Mary on the individual.

Confirmed by MrSikhNet himself that it is VIRGIN MARY.

Here is the discussion on it on his website: http://www.mrsikhnet...late-ed-obrien/

[Wales85]

Thats Our Lady of Guadalupe. Very big among hispanic catholics. Mary was a very good woman. but I agree that placing a catholic Icon in the center of a mural of the sikh gurus does not really make any sense at all...but then again, hippies do some crazy stuff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Guadalupe

[Sikhistan]

Yes there are two hindu images at the top on each side of Virgin Mary with Guru Nanak Dev Ji on the left below and a Guru Gobind Singh Ji on the right

HarBhajan Singh Yogi at the left side and Guru Ram Das ji at right side of the picture. Mural was drawn by non-sikh.

[11Gurus1Jot]

Why has the bloke who did the mural only picked some religions i.e. Sikhi (11Gurus) Mary (catholic) and Devi (Hindu). Has he got something against the other religions?

• Buddhism- Gautama Buddha
• Judaism-Abraham
• Taoism - Lao Tzu
• Christianity –Jesus Christ
• Jainism, Mahavira
• Islam- Mohammed
• Other original, unique, stand alone religions!

If you are going for a multi faith theme you should not exclude any religion, otherwise you are discriminating. Obviously, sects and cults that were just set up to distort and destroy the original religions could be excluded.