** Evidence Of Gravesend Granthi Drinking, Eating Meat**

[khalistan_zindabaad]

Evidence of Gravesend Gurdwara Sahib Granthi eating meat, drinkining alcohol and swearing, and also discussing corrupt officials in the committee

Recently singhs beat this granthi up due to him drinking and sitting on tabia and doing a raul, later the commitee supported the granthi and went against the singhs and have threatened to take the singhs to court. Currently <edited> has openly supported the granthi knowing of his misdeeds, and is standing against the singhs. Even though members of panthic jathedbandi including akj have phoned him to change his stance, but he still is going against the singhs of the panth and supporting this person.

Please watch the videos.

Part 1 - discussing the corrupt commitee - admitting to drinking black label, etc

Part 2 - Eating meat, alcohol

Part 3 - Eating meat, alcohol

[o_singh]

Firstly this man in the video is not the granthi that got beaten up. You mention sewa Singh lalli is taking the side of the granthi that got beaten up? Do you have Any proof . Also you mention that some members of jathebandi's including akj called sewa Singh lalli ? Who , surely you must know who called him as you seem to know everything else. As for the man in the video, he should be punished by the committe and sacked straight away. As for the evil people that went out there way to make these vids, rather than stoping the granthi from drinking alcohol and eating meat , in the video you can hear the other man saying do you want more.

[mrsinghs]

[sangat Ji

 

Whoever wrote this topic seems to have his/her wires crossed as this topic is referring to a Granthi who was viciously beaten up in Gravesend Gurdwara by I can only assume thugs with allegations of the granthi having had alcohol. This was never proven and in fact he was found to NOT have been intoxicated when treated for his injuries at the hospital.

The people who beat this defenceless man also STOLE the CCTV footage from the Gurdwara to hide their crimes for which they are being charged for (this has been confirmed by Gravesend Gurdwara Committee members).

 

This new incident with the Granthi in these videos is very upsetting and disappointing to watch, as a member of the Sikh community I feel ashamed that these are out on the internet for the public to ridicule our Sikhi faith.

 

Firstly it is wrong for the granthi to be speaking and acting in this way, however he is only human after all and I am sure there are plenty of people out there who are sharing their views and venting their anger at others with their “so called friends” behind closed doors. I say this as the people who this granthi must have been talking to must be close to him to get him to say the things he has.

 

Instead of EDUCATING him or telling him he is WRONG they are encouraging him to eat meat or drink alcohol as heard in some parts of the video. Do the people around him drink or eat meat and also work in the Gurdwara?  Was this a set up to destabilise the Gravesend Gurdwara committee yet again by people foaming at the mouth to take control?

 

Questions for thought:

 

1. Where do Granthi eat meat or drink alcohol and with whom?

 

2. Would it be safe to assume that the people who attacked the first Granthi set up the second one in these videos?

 

3. What do we really know about the people who beat up the first Granthi or who made these videos?

 

4. Is it safe to say that now that the new Gurdwara is built that everyone wants a piece of the pie?

 

5. There is a personal reference to a Mr Seva Singh Lallie, however after making a few calls Mr Lalli has never been a member of the committee and nobody has called him to change any so called stance he is allegedly to have been taking.

 

6. Remember there is only 1 God and that is our beloved Guru Granth Sahib.

 

I pay credit to all involved in making the new Gravesend Gurdwara the magnificent building it is. Before everyone jumps down peoples throats Sangat Ji please take a minute and think of what these videos or actions by certain individuals is doing to our community. IT’S SHAMING US NOT EDUCATING US.

 

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Evidence of Gravesend Gurdwara Sahib Granthi eating meat, drinkining alcohol and swearing, and also discussing corrupt officials in the committee

Recently singhs beat this granthi up due to him drinking and sitting on tabia and doing a raul, later the commitee supported the granthi and went against the singhs and have threatened to take the singhs to court. Currently Seva Singh Lallie of Gravesend, Council of Khalistan, Babbar Khalsa, AKJ has openly supported the granthi knowing of his misdeeds, and is standing against the singhs. Even though members of panthic jathedbandi including akj have phoned him to change his stance, but he still is going against the singhs of the panth and supporting this person.

Please watch the videos.

Part 1 - discussing the corrupt commitee - admitting to drinking black label, etc

Part 2 - Eating meat, alcohol

Part 3 - Eating meat, alcohol

[KhalistaniGunMan]

Absolutely disgusting!...but im not surprised...hes a missionary taught granthi...what more do you expect from these people!....is this the granthi who got beaten up??

[xtremesingh18]

[sikhwiki]

Lets get a few things straight here...

I dont think you have watched or listened to the video properly, there is a part in this video where this Granthi talks about the night him and his uncle got a beating in the Gurudwara, he talks about how they went for a drinking session in bexley and how a somalian kebab shop owner let them eat in the back room as they were sikh. He then talks about coming home on the train and trying to talk his uncle (Suba Singh) out of going back to the gurudwara as they had been drinking. He then talks about how Suba ignored his advice and they both went back to the Gurudwara where 2 singhs got suspicious when they noticed the Granthis coming back at 11pm on Sat night dressed in Shirts/Trousers. These Singhs then called the Granthis over and must have smelled alcohol then took care of the situation in the way they thought was right. If you listen to the video you will realise these are no longer allegations this is from the horses mouth.

So now you have your proof.

Now a question to ask yourselves...

1. Why did the committee members that know he was drunk and smelled alcohol that night now say that he wasnt.

2. If he says himself they had been drinking why did the hospital tests show he wasnt - probably because there were no tests

3. Why have the committee members been backing up these Granthis for the last month when everyone of them knows that they drink

4. Why was this Granthi at the gurudwara on Sunday doing Kirthan over a month after this incident

5. Why was there a collection set up for these so called innocent Granthis rather than having them removed from the premises

This is a sad state of affairs and shows just how low people will go for there own political gain.

So would you say what these Granthi did was Paap and that they are Paapi?

Well I say the people that backed up these Granthi, spread false rumours and arranged collections for them knowing they were drunk have done Maha Paap and their actions are as bad if not worse than the Granthis.

As for the people that believed the false rumours and put money towards their collection without questioning any of this, I think the shame from the above video should be enough punishment for them.

As for the 2 singhs that taught them that drinking alcohol and coming into our Gurudwara will not be tolerated. I thank you for doing what the majority of other people would turn a blind eye to and showing our community that we will not put up with this behaviour on these holy premises.

[s50]

K_z

please back up your evidence that akj are supporting this maha beadi.

[khalistan_zindabaad]

I wrote seva singh lallie is supporting the granthis, proof is - ask anyone in gravesend.

Avtar Singh Sanghera of AKJ even phoned laallie and told him to stop supporting the granthis and stick with the singhs.

Too many issues there. I didnt write the comment without proof.

s50 i didnt say akj are supporting, i mentioned a singhs name, akj are against this and have phoned the singh to stop supporting the granthis

[ks55]

siikhiwiki is spot on 80% correct - ilive and gravesend and i didn't even know the there was money raised for these bigots . Where your incorrect is that two singhs beat these bigots up in the gurdwara- that is a MAJOR Wrong and will not bring about any change as majority of sangat and people say that the obvious thing to do was to ring up all the committee members and present these drunkards in front of them and their state. and if you wanted to beat them up then it should've been done outside the premises of the grudwara NOT inside. If the approach was done prorperly and taken all the way to the top and satkaar sevdaars without beating the gianis up you would've had even greater support. Ask your self how many people have replied on this forum where there are two threads on gravesend alone- it's all beacuse of the thugary behaviour of beating them up. Approach has to be with hosh not josh to resolve things. The country you live in has bought about change in the world and is doing so even as we speak with hosh not by BEATING PEOPLE UP.

[KhalistaniGunMan]

The country you live in has bought about change in the world and is doing so even as we speak with hosh not by BEATING PEOPLE UP.

LOLLL yh thats why they are sending their armies around the world behind america...the truth is this couttry has strong millitary allies to back their word up which is why the world listens...