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This only works in India. This is not something that should be done in the western countries though. It will only make us look bad in the west even though this is what Dehdhaari guru cults deserve. The thing about Kala Afghanists like the Billi Jatha/Sin Sabha Canada/Missionaries is that it is best to counter them with knowledge and it's not even that difficult to do so. Knowledge is power, arm yourself with it. Confront and debate with these Kala Afghanists without any fear and see how they will try to back track because they have no leg to stand on as far as Gurmat is concerned.

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UK = Paji i think we need to remember who are real enemies are. In 1947 they wiped out at least 10% of the Sikh Population at the time. In earlier GhalluGhara's they killed more than 50% of the Sikh population at the time. If Sajjan Kumar that proud Jatt leader is still walking around Delhi enjoying crores of wealth that him and his Jatt goons gained by killing innocent Sikhs ... why should we be talking about using baseball bats on fellow Sikhs? I hope you feel me, brother.

No matter what views people hold we should still have pyaar and respect for fellow Sikhs ... provided Sikhs are not being killed off by the said individuals (that you or me might oppose) in the similar manner that CM Beanta and KPS Gill specialised in.

Singh598 = The ... traditional method adopted ... was the good old danda, if we give this a modern touch i think its called a baseball bat.

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No matter what views people hold we should still have pyaar and respect for fellow Sikhs ....

I disagree - now there is so much vermin out there spewing poision, something needs to be done -

When Baba-E-Kaum Jarnail Singh Khalsa was alive these insects never dare come out of their holes and criticze Guru Sahib, his writing and philosophy and his Gursikhs.

When the masands went against the panth look what happened to them and yet all i am saying is that one darshan of the baseball bat is enough for these to get some real self realization. The heretic jathas out their are growing in power and if they are allowed to carry on they will completely subjugate all the humble true Gursikhs.

Would you like to see a complete erosion of all Sikh principles? You probably would hence you like to give them pyaar and satkar. People like Sarbjit Lundee will do contoversial katha whislt his "singhs" will sit all around him showing their back to Guru Jee and the humble true Sikhs will be treated like sheep. All this is already happening before your eyes - Badals, SGPC, corrupt Akal Takhat heretic groups dodgy katha vachiks, corrupt committee members and Gurdwaras and not to forget the unending list of gadhaars sold out

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. why should we be talking about using baseball bats on fellow Sikhs..

Let us take this out of our mind that these thugs are fellow sikhs.they are not sikhs. rather they are no 1 enemy of sikhs.

pl do not forget enemies change with time.Guru sahib said a time will come when people in sikh saroop will try to

destroy sikhi.

that is what they are doing.dhundha shouting from roof top that he follows sikh rehat maryada. in relaity he is discarding

it in totality. these kiddos have to learn sikhi by joining a proper insitution like taksal and wash out garbage they have filled

their head with. and lastly lock down all missionary schools if we want to safeguard sikhi.

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In my opinion do not debate with them because Gurbani states clearly dont engage in arguements with fools. The puratan and traditional method adopted by the Khalsa especially Sri Maan Sant Jarnail Singh Jee Khalsa was the good old danda, if we give this a modern touch i think its called a baseball bat. Then you watch these little cats wont even squeak

haha. you are hilarious. Internet warrior trying to spread hate. You really think that violence is the key? How old are you? 12? Its pretty easy to beat up a guy when you have 50 guys with you.

Let me ask you singh598:

Are there any missionary guys in your area, or close by? Why haven't you gone to beat them up yet? Are you willing to go to jail over this? I highly doubt it. Your type is all talk. You want others to do the dirty work while you sit back and enjoy. Do you know how to fight? How many fights have you been in? whats make you so confident that you are tougher than these guys? What if you and your cult buddies jump one of these guys, and they come back and jump you later? Will that solve the problem? Its obvious you haven't thought about this and just let your immaturity take over.

Sorry for being so upset about this...i just can't stand this cult behaviour amongst our youth. I don't like it when people are encouraging violence on others. This is not Sikhi. You should be banned for inciting violence.

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Im not trying to spread hate infact they are the ones spreading hate

what about when excommuniated darshan lal was summoned to the Akaal Takht for despising nitnem he went with a bunch of cronies in case there is a fight.....what about when sarbjit gunda came to the UK he had his back up? these people never spoke when they knew shastar wala baba is sitting in Guru Ka Nivas (Sant Jarnail Singh)

look at the history of Budda Dal , jatherdar Akakli Phoola Singh summoned Maharaja Ranjit Singh and gave him punishment. It was and remains the primary job of the Nihang Samparda to clear up the rubbish. Nihangs used have big hevay metal chains anyone pretending to be a baba or doing beadbi of Sikhi were tied to trees in the hot summer. The Nihangs carry big sticks and bats but they aren't cleaning up the rubbish

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