Jump to content

Gurdwara Marrying Sikhs To Muslims

Recommended Posts

no the colleague is a mona sikh. But I think you have all missed my point.....why oh but WHY? why are our gurdwars allowing this??..It is surely sending out the wrong message to our future....

On a given Sunday our gurdwaras preach to us one thing and the following weekend they are blessing the wedding of a Sikh to a Muslim.

In this case I do not think the girl will embrace Sikhi.

I just find it very disheartening and sad that our religion is stooping to this low and encouraging this.

Please not this is not to say that ALL gurdwars allow this.....they DO NOT

I pray and pray this practice is not adopted by all gurdwaras..

But how do our people and religion allow this???...Given our history?..

These gurdwaras in the west make tons of money from marriages, so this is why they keep doing it. I am sure deep down they all know it's wrong, but they need money to run Gurdwara. Nothing is free in the west if you're foreigner.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Still the OP won't tell us what Gurdwara this 'sikh to a muslim' marriage is about to take place in.

Until he tells us as far as I'm concerned its an imaginary scenario he dreamt up in his mind about some imaginary boy and girl about to get married in some imaginary gurdwara.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

new age sikhs are marrying out of the sikh religion. HOWEVER if the muslim girl becomes a sikh and takes our tenth master as her master unlike following the teaching of prophet mohammed then its all good. The shame is whem you see all sardaaars with big turbans and long beards standing around a tabaya watching a kala marrying their daughter and he hasnt converted to sikhi. The sikh women on a massive scale are marrying out of sikhi.

To the point...

The gurdwara committees who run the gurdwaras are not practising the rehat as set by the main sikh leaders in india. These guys are often older businessmen who can read gurmukhi and do path however havent lived strictly by the tennets set by guru gobing singh ji. So they bend the rules is its a mates son or if bookings are down and cash flow is low. The gurdwara is also a business to these people. So theyl marry their own son to muslim, hindu or whatever without a blink of an eyelid IF it brings in the business and a bonus if the person marrying their daughter or son has a good profession!

Singh Sabha Gurdwara in bradford follow strict tennets of sikhism and would not allow this conduct as they put faith, following sikhi appropriately and running the gurdwara accordingly. If you go down the road 1 minute walk to Gobind Marg gurdwara they marry hindus and sikhs mixed marriages...etc

Link to comment
Share on other sites


The gurdwara has allot of money coming and going through it. The bent sevadaars often take advantage of the benefits of even taking loans from the golak when they are in power. many of the old school gurdwara pardaans who we all saw wearing smart blazers and shirt and tie with a big desi pagh and mercedes parked up outside where bent. Then the you see the second generation come through who are their children and grand children who are also showing they are religious butvalso draining the system. I seen this behaviour many times! Often theres a power struggle between large extended families to take over the committees.

The benefits...

1.They get into the network of the councillors.

2.Funds and Grants information and people who offer this.

3.Because its a charity so there are many people who offer services for free. The committee take advantage of this on a personal level.

4. Being part of the gurdwara estabilishment gives prestige and gives them a higher sense of living higher than the common individual. "Power trip"

The "Gurmukh" sevadaar will often be humble and keep his head down and be ready and willing to help where he or she can...as humbleness is the whole meaning of seva. The worldly power trip sevadaars look down on the gurmukhs and think they are pushovers as all these people would normally say is "han ji". If you meet certain amritdhari sevadaar in the gurdwara you can tell whos practising, seva, simran and nimrataa and doing seva with a true heart.

Im pretty fed up of the power trip sevadaars myself and their families Taking advantage of the so called seva they are doing in the gurdwaras.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sas Sri akal to all....

Please I am asking for all here not to assume mona Sikhs are all like of a certain kind. I myself am a mona....but to me the most important thing to me is my religion even though I do not have a turban. I dont drink or smoke and certainly dont take drugs.

My religion Sikhi is more foremost. I bring my children up in the same manner and have explained the certain do and donts of being a sikh and paths to avoid in life.

And no people from faiths outside of Sikhi and NOT embracing Sikhi when participating these marriages. I know this for a fact as I have now like us most, many cousins who have married non sikhs in Gurdwaras. T

Hence why is disappoints me greatly why the most sacred place for me in my life is allowing this to happen.

Some gurdwaras have even built a seperate room at the back of gurdwara premises where these Anand Karaj wedding take place on the quiet.

It saddens me a great deal. Really saddens me and I worry for our future.

I am fully aware that some of you may be interested in knowing which gurdwara this is. Very sadly I will not for obvious reason post on here which gurdwara is allowing this. But you may private message me and I can share further with you.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Still the OP won't tell us what Gurdwara this 'sikh to a muslim' marriage is about to take place in.

Until he tells us as far as I'm concerned its an imaginary scenario he dreamt up in his mind about some imaginary boy and girl about to get married in some imaginary gurdwara.



No you have got me wrong. It would not be right for me to post this for obvious reason you are free to pvt message me to discuss further.

And same applies to it being an imaginary scenario that has been dreamt up. I am not here to stir trouble or to wind people up. Im just saddened that this is allowed to happen. I repeat once again I think all have drifted off the subject a little. I cannot understand why our sacred homes are allowing this. What I find difficult to get a grip with is how easy our older generation have accepted this in society.

All the best

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Im not goin to copy and paste whole article, as its quite long mods, however i wana post this 1 example of these sham marriages have taken the pure p!$$ out of our dharam n gurus.

"2.6 Some examples have emerged where the Anand Karaj has taken place without the non-Sikh partner accepting the Sikh faith. Then the Sikh partner is converted for the second religious ceremony. A particular example illustrates this issue whereby a Sikh girl had an Anand Karaj first and then had a church wedding where she was converted to Christianity. Sadly she died shortly afterwards and she was buried according to Christian rites. It was only at this point the distraught family realised what had actually happened."

The thing is, ppl only have anand karaj, coz it looks good on their crappy little video/pics to look at years later. Also these foolish atheistic parents r also to blame, as theyve given pure shabaashi to their dumb kids that sikhi is some sort make up your own dharam crap, where the classic line is "sikhi is personal, jus be a good person" zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Thing is, most ppl dont/havnt even read wat the 4 verses of the anand karaj means, and wat it represents. Example, the 1st verse says, how the 2 couples should meditate, believe in 1 god and make the guru centre of their world, now how can this happen, if 1 of the couples, belongs 2 a religion which believes in multiple gods, follows a religion which doesn't do naam and worships other prophets n not our guru?

And to those sayin, wats difference if 2 patit/mona sikhs get married in anand karaj, well, at least their kids will still come gurdwara in the future, even if it isnt regularly, but the connection is there, n u never know thats their lifeline, despite their parents not bein overly religious.

Mix marriages inevitably will produce confused kids, who dont know where their loyalties lie. Theres a gorah who rings up nihals show on bbc, who's married a an apni, n he says how their kids go both gurdwara n church, n participate in both religious activites n how they worship both gurus and jesus. He tries makin it out like its all rosy in his hippy cookoo land, wat a friggin joke man! The 2 faiths have so many contradictory beliefs. Whats he gona tell his kids wen it comes to evolution/adam n eve? Kids sikhi side says no halal/kosher, christian side says, "meh eat wat u want".

1 of my cousins is goin to be in a anand karaj in few months, with a HP (who is a complete h@rami btw), havin been turned away by 1 of our local gurdwaras (coz they have sharam). Instead of this awakenin her to this illegal wedding, she goes n finds anotha gurdwara where they r happy for this 2 go thru. I will not be attending the wedding, along with few fam members, sadly all the parents will b goin, as theyre "resigned" to goin. Its only us kids who r standing firm on this. I even asked her, wat religion ur kids will follow, she jus keeps ignorin me n stayin silent. Pure lust weddings shall fail, hopefully.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Starstriker singhs have started protesting outside gurdwaras against this. The girls are chasing the lust BigTime and parents turn a blind eye at least shes married and gone...thats what they want...

As for guys. Many sikh boys get married in mixed marriages but dont seem strong to convert the women...again lust over faith and religion.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This topic is now closed to further replies.

  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • The muslims cannot really do much in Leicester so they picked an easy target in Birmingham.  And they use what they are good at which is the numbers game.  I wish there was a community that breeds at higher rates than the muslims so that when the muslims try to get their numbers that they get out-numbered by another community.  As to your post that you mentioned about us Sikhs being outnumbered by mobs from other communities is that although we are quite a docile race, we have a knack of being extremely well organised and disciplined when the time comes and this bodes well when tackling an unruly mob particularly when being outnumbered.  It's like some kind of dormant gene that gets activated. You saw how quickly our community galvanised during 2011 riots, how quickly during the Kisaan protests. Like MrrSingh said we are a walking contradiction. 
    • From what happened last week it looked like the Hindus started it and the muslims ended up on top with what happened in Birmingham.  You're right apne don't really bully minorities, we are racist though. I can't blame the Hindus to some extent when it comes to suls. Their leadership let them down big time allowing huge amounts of suls to stay behind after partition. We've been fortunate to have an almost sul free Punjab, we only know what suls are like due to living next to them in the west. Punjab has the lowest percentage of suls in all of India. Suls like to push the boat to see what they can get away with and when they go too far like they did in Myanmar recently, the majority community finally has enough and retaliate. If they were a community that kept their head down and worked hard no one would hate them but they just try to push their way of life on all of us. They have conflicts with every other religion. 
    • One major factor for the Hindus are doing what they are doing in the UK is the political backing. The Hindu political leadership in India is comprised of Gujjus and it is the Gujju diaspora that is spearheads in countries abroad.  Even if we had this level of political backing, we Sikhs don't do what these two other communities do.  We are wired differently. Even if we were an overwhelming majority, we don't pick on other communities.  But for some reason, these two other communities love to use their numbers.  But as a neutral observer, it is interesting to see Muslims in the UK on the back foot.  The Hindu lobby groups seem to have turned the tables on the Muslim lobby groups.  The police and local authorities seem to protect Muslims but they look quite helpless.  Muslim lobby groups seem to infiltrate systems from a lower level but the Hindu lobby groups seem to be excercise from a higher level. So it seems to be top-down vs bottom-up.      
    • The thing is that Hindus will only give it the large when in a significant majority and as soon as the numbers turn against them they pretty much give up. The only exception I've seen to this is the Tamil Hindus of Sri Lanka. They also have appalling unity, did the Punjabi, Tamil, Nepali Hindus come to help the Gujaratis? Nope. Yet you had Arabs and Somalians helping the Indian muslims and Pakistanis.  Sikhs historically have always been a minority in India and even greater Punjab so we are used to fighting when the numbers are against us. Just look at how we retaliated against the muslims of UP who heavily outnumber us when they tried to take our land. Even in Hyderabad Sikhs have fought against Muslims who make up a huge amount of the city.   
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use