How Muslims Spread Their Religion

[jkvlondon]

The white girls who convert to Islam tend to be the ones who were fundamentalist christian minded and cant stand the way atheism has taken over christianity diulting it and allowing homosexuals, feminists,etc to take it over so they rebel and convert to islam that puts women in their place and men on top as it should be in the social order of things.

The other type of white girl that converts is the one who is atheist hedonist minded she finds a muslim guy who slowly grooms her first with lovey dovey stuff hiding his islamic intentions once he has got her in love he introduces Islam and slowly starts isolating her away from non-islamic friends and activities and before you know it he has groomed her into islam and when he is ready he asks her to marry but tells her he cant marry her unless she converts which she then readily agree's to.

Its very easy, if Sikh guys followed the examples of muhamamd and muslim guys we would have a surplus of girls. If Sikh guys followed Sikhi properly and not some watered down westernised feminist version then we would have 4+ wives, we would be incharge of the affairs of the house and kids. But because Sikh households and UK society is now liberal atheist matriarchal we are seeing the opposite trend of what we really should be seeing. While Islam paradoxily retains that patriarchal control over offspring and women, which allows it to expand its population.

keep your gandh to yourself ...why would any true Gursikh want to leave the true path for one that promises loads and delivers little in real terms?

[dallysingh101]

Most of the jatt sikh females I know wear a dastar, master shastar vidya, naam simran and teach Sikh boys about true Sikhi. Your eyes however only see filth because you are wallowing in filth yourself.

That's because you are an insulated peasant with a low IQ. Crawl out from under your rock a bit more and see the big bad world if you're man enough. Your illusions will soon be smashed.

You only see what you want to see because you're mentally too weak to see reality. And that's why you are a part of the problem; we can't solve problems with people like you, because you're too weak to acknowledge and recognise them under your own nose in the first place - like you'd have some sort of mental breakdown or identity crisis if you did. Exactly like the majority bewakoofs with the grooming issue over the last few decades.

If you want to point fingers, look at how jatts used to share wives between brothers only a generation or so back (disgusting!!). Promoting it undercover with all the 'pubi, pubi' songs under the guise of 'Punjabi culture'. So before you start pointing out weird practices elsewhere recognise your own.

As for talking about other people drinking. GOOD GOD!! Even Rabh can't separate jatts from sharaab. You know it's a part of your culture, stop being in denial...Khaan bukray peenh sharaabaan; putt jattan de. Most of this gundh in Panjabi culture comes from jatts being unable to repress their barn dance instincts and pushing this 'let's get drunk, put on brightly coloured skirts, grin like we're on drugs, waggle our heads and do bhangra' culture. It's that ish that put girls on a plate for groomers and romeos. The sad thing is how jatts have spread their gundh around and now even others start copying foolish practices like ostentatious weddings and whisky-shishky culture and dancing around like life's one big party.

You must be deluded to talk about other people being an affront to what our Gurus stood for. Look at what you are doing: being overly conscious of the perceived shortcomings of others whilst applying selective amnesia to the mountains of gundh from your own community.

Your game is played out. No one is falling for that pendu strategy any more.

Here's an idea:

Why don't you focus closer to home and try sorting out the rampant problems there instead of trying to foolishly call other people out? Because until you do that, you wont have a leg to stand on.

[JagsawSingh]

I'm a jatt and no one in my family and extended family drinks alcohol...ever.

Every one in my family wears a dastar and, because unlike bhatras we understand that females are human too and thus also Sikh, all the women in my family wear dastars too.

No one in my family has ever consumed the flesh of dead animals. No flesh of dead animals has ever once entered our house.

No one in my family has ever eaten eggs.

My community...the one you dismiss as 'useless' is the one that built a Khalsa empire stretching all the way into central Asia.

My community....the one you dismiss as 'nothing more than sharabi bhangra dancers'....is the one that the greatest military leader of the century was from.

My family clan...the one you dismiss as 'pendus'...are the misl clan that ransacked Delhi, raised the nishan sahib over the Red Fort and in the name of the Khalsa ruled the whole of India by default.

My community...the one you dismiss as nothing more than whisky-shinsky culture....is the ones that 150 years ago laid our Sikh foundations in the farmlands of California, western Canada, Woolgoolga in Australia etc.

Nobody in my famy and extended family puts up photographs of our dead fathers and grandfathers, puts garlands around them, and certainly doesn't do pooja on them even if we did start having photographs of dead people up on the wall.

No female in my family, extended family and community has women who cover their faces in pardah around men of the family.

No female in my family, extended family and community has been denied the chance to study.

Every female in my family, extended family and community has been actively encouraged to adhere to the Sikh work ethic and work hard for a living.

As I stated before, the Sikh community in the UK has, over the course of the past 60 years, deliberately ignored the disgusting un-sikh practices of this weird group called the bhatras because of a fear of being labelled casteist. The practices have been ignored because there has been total seperation between the bhatras and all the other sikhs. The bhatras have remained isolated from the wider Sikhs and thus have been allowed to continue with their alien traditions. As a result, thousands of our Sikhs sisters belonging to this backward group have had to endure a life of utter dispair. In comparison, the muslim girls of Bradford have had a much better life because their culture values the sciences so they have been encouraged to study.

The history books, such as Denzil's, list the bhatras as an itinerant (gypsy) community of vagabonds (beggars and street charlatans...i.e fortune tellars) who occupy the loweest position in Sikh society after having arrived in the Punjab from central India with the onset of Sikhism. 200 years after Denzil said the bhatras live isolated away from mainstream Sikhi as others do not wish to assocciate with them nothing much has changed at all. It is today just as it always was. Your ways are as srange and offensive to Sikhs as they have always been but your group's disgusting views about women will no longer be tolerated in this modern age. The wider Sikhs must rise above the fear of being labelled casteist and deal with this weird little grouping called the bhatras once and for all.

[dallysingh101]

I'm a jatt and no one in my family and extended family drinks alcohol...ever.

Every one in my family wears a dastar

Then you are a TINY minority of jatt. Most of your people are cut haired, drinking shinking, party animals.

Wake up to this. Stop living in some closeted lala-land.

Sort out the slappers, alcoholics and smack heads in your wider community before you try and sort anyone else out mate. Actually, whilst you are at it, try dealing with all those crooked, corrupt peasants infesting the Akali Dal and SGPC too.

Do you know many jatts sleep rough, drunk and/or high as hell in east AND west London?

Sweep up under your own manji before you start talking about the gundh under someone elses.

Stop trying to live off the back of your ancestors achievements too. Even the greatest people can (and often do!) have descendants that are complete muppets.

[FireFistAce]

Then you are a TINY minority of jatt. Most of your people are cut haired, drinking shinking, party animals.

Wake up to this. Stop living in some closeted lala-land.

Sort out the slappers, alcoholics and smack heads in your wider community before you try and sort anyone else out mate. Actually, whilst you are at it, try dealing with all those crooked, corrupt peasants infesting the Akali Dal and SGPC too.

Do you know many jatts sleep rough, drunk and/or high as hell in east AND west London?

Sweep up under your own manji before you start talking about the gundh under someone elses.

Stop trying to live off the back of your ancestors achievements too. Even the greatest people can (and often do!) have descendants that are complete muppets.

From Pakistani Jatts I've met, a lot of them drink too and do some Bhangra back in Pakistani Punjab. However drinking is never done openly in villages. And it is considered "mirassiyan da kam" if one wants to engage in formally learning bhangra/stage acting/singing. Pakistani Jatts especially have a weird hatred towards wearing shalwar kameez that has fancy patterns or really any patterns on it. They prefer plain and simple (this is more common in villages, not in cities like Lahore.)

[dallysingh101]

Pakistani Jatts especially have a weird hatred towards wearing shalwar kameez that has fancy patterns or really any patterns on it.

It's not weird. They just don't want to look like some ostentatious women, unlike our lot.

Reserve is a thing totally lost on many of our lot.

The way many of us conduct ourselves when celebrating looks 'gay'. By this I mean the choice of glittery, bright colours and grinning like an imbecile who is oblivious to the world. Conduct yourselves veeray! lol

[FireFistAce]

It's not weird. They just don't want to look like some ostentatious women, unlike our lot.

Reserve is a thing totally lost on many of our lot.

The way many of us conduct ourselves when celebrating looks 'gay'. By this I mean the choice of glittery, bright colours and grinning like an imbecile who is oblivious to the world. Conduct yourselves veeray! lol

That's true. A lot of my pakistani punjabi friends laugh when Indian punjabis make some stupid Bhangra songs about Jatts and how "cool and badass" they are supposed to be.

They say "look at those stupid mirassis pretending to be Jatts"

[dallysingh101]

That's true. A lot of my pakistani friends laugh when Indian punjabis make some stupid Bhangra songs about Jatts and how "cool and badass" they are supposed to be.

They say "look at those stupid mirassis pretending to be Jatts"

I grew up around some badass pakis. They are ashamed of being jatt, they wont admit to it - they'd rather say they were Rajput.

[FireFistAce]

I grew up around some badass pakis. They are ashamed of being jatt, they wont admit to it - they'd rather say they were Rajput.

I've studied Indian history at graduate level here in USA. Rajputs originate from Central Asia. This is also the origin of Jats. Historically Jatts were never great followers of Brahmins so they were left as outcasts into the Vaishya and shudra groups. This is because Jatts even before Islam and Sikhism, rejected leadership of Brahmin priests.

Also the word Jatt is older than the word Rajput. Jatts are a nation not just "farmers". Some scholars refer to Jatts as "degraded Rajputs" because the Brahmins didn't like them. Whatever the case, it is true that some Jatt clans are actually "equivalent" to Rajputs.

[genie]

If were all honest most will admit that Jatti's have the biggest rep for being the easiest punjabi club going Indian slags going after hindu punjabi / guji girls but also the religious Jatti's have a rep for being the most strongest in the Sikh faith

You either get extreme liberal atheist jattis who pretend to be Sikhs yet get drunk most days, eating beef, smoking, sleeping around with non-sikhs and probably got more STD's than braincells. Or you get the right wing pro-khalistan / Sikh nationalist Jatti's who are fiercely proud of being Sikh and would make a good wife for any Sikh lad looking to start a family. Depends on the type of upbringing the girl has had and her level of IQ. The other caste girls tend to be middle of the road moderates.