Sell Out Sikh Leaders Dialogue With Modi

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Video of Sikh reaction on seeing Modi arrive in Parliament Square

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Sikh Federation UK - SFUK

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CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE MAKES FABRICATED & ABSURD CLAIMS WITH OFFENSIVE REMARKS AGAINST PEACEFUL UK SIKHS - LEGAL ACTION MAY FOLLOW

Its shameful and embarrassing on the Conservative Party and all Sikhs linked to the Tories that such an ignorant badly informed candidate and member is spreading fabricated bogus propaganda on behalf of the Indian Government, highlighting more evidence of Indias political influence over the UK Government.

The UK Sikh community demand Mr Amandeep Boghal to publicly present any evidence he has to validate and substantiate these absurd and offensive claims, or make a public apology and denounce these claims. It is highly likely Mr Bhogal may face legal challenge about his TV interview in which he claims and calls for Government actions on a falsely alleged rise in Sikh radicalisation and extremism and disgraceful links to Pakistan Intelligence Agencies.

All this propaganda is a 30yr old tactic employed by Indian Authorities in the 80s & 90s to defame the honest name and reputation of religious Sikh community in India and in the diaspora. Its being used again in an attempt to discredit the active and legitimate protests against PM Modis UK visit. The 30yr rule and release of UK government archived documents now prove that the UK government were complicit in mistreating & discriminating Sikhs at the request of the Indian PM in the 80s and beyond. We hope that the current UK Government are not so naive and see through this fabrication of lies and fiction and defend the legal rights and protect the respect for Human Rights we have in this country. Instead push back to the Indian Authorities to clean up their own act in this regard.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=911007175654169&id=440939405994284

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyDZdZCqIHQ

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Jeremy Corbyn has the moral authority to challenge Narendra Modi

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/13/narendra-modi-jeremy-corbyn-india-equality

[Cisco_Singh 563]

The membership and credentials of everyone in so called Sikh organisations on the UK needs to be checked and analysed.

Otherwise we may inadvertenly placed in senior management positions anti-panthic gaddar masands. These people then go on to "campaign and lobby" on the behalf of UK Sikhs, claiming they are representives of the UK Sikhs.

Just like SGPC is infiltrated by masands in India. Uk sikh organisations are also infiltrated.

[InderjitS 1,242]

Past, Present and Future.

On their own these are just words. But to you as Sikhs they should mean something. Something enough to awaken what it actually means to be a Sikh.

Present: Right at the front...in front of Modi, in the picture...well within brown nosing distance is Mohinder Singh, the president of the massive Soho Road Gurdwara in Birmingham.

Past: I stated right here on this forum how this man was selling us out to such an extent that evn the queen gave him an OBE honour in the name of selling out.

I told you how he had made is fortune by preying on the dignity of elderly, vulnerable people. Itold you how he calls himseld Dr' and thus gets on the front seat with Modi and honours from the queen because he is millionaiire. I told you how he is a miilionaire because he owns 4 elderly persons care homes. I told you how the Care Commission has given every care home he owns the poorest possible rating because....according to the Care Commission's official reports.......the 'dignity' and 'safety' of those vulnerable old folk has been blatantly violated. In other words, I told you how this 'great Sikh community elder and spokessman' is worse than a street drug dealer because he actually made is fortune and respect on the back of taking away the dignity of the people that deserve it the most : the vulnerable elderly.

Near Past: None of you in the midlands did anything. The son of a <banned word filter activated> was so surpirised you did nothng despite you now knowing what you do he got even braver.

Present: The son of a <banned word filter activated> was the front row....international headline.....Sikhs love Modi and India.....interational poster boy against everything we Siikhs have been fighting for.

Future: Apart from listeining to what I say about a man you all have stop and analyse why you were so unpadh that you couldn't, in advance, shame a besharm before he and his besharm colleagues cheapen and rubbish the Sikh struggle and thus the Sikh rights momentum that had been building the last few weeks. Here, on this website, I gave you enough details to send this man to the Courts and hopefully prison. I gave you all in-depth company record details about his unethical and perhaps illegal business dealings over the course of the last 10 years. None of you did <banned word filter activated> with what I armed you with.

Present : Son of a <banned word filter activated> got brave and is getting braver. Son of a <banned word filter activated> went on....the last 2 days....and became the public / international face of 'Sikhs that love India'.

Future: In future ae you all gonna simply lament the status quo or are you finally gonna analyse how your own ineptness, lazyness and un-padhness gave birth to the status quo. ?

One 'past' you missed is how he along with other Kar Seva Babey was complicit in replacing the Gold Panels from Harmandhir Sahib, with somewhat cheaper gold, and I wonder what happened to the original panels?? These babey have destroyed almost all historical references from ithaasic gurdwarey. Nishkam Sevak Jatha have always been against a separate homeland and vehemently oppose any violence, ie the Kharkoo Lehar. The only person in their past who had some Anakh was Giani Amolak Singh Ji and that too in the early days after the attack on Harmandhir Sahib.

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Jeremy Corbyn the Labour leader did much better than our sellouts. He boycotted Modi's speach to MP's.

From the Guardian

'This is why Jeremy Corbyns private meeting with Modi tomorrow is so important. Corbyn has long been a trenchant critic of Modi. In 2013, as the Foreign Office began making overtures to Modi after having snubbed him for more than a decade, Corbyn signed a parliamentary motion calling on the British government to reinstate its diplomatic boycott of Modi, given his role in the communal violence in 2002 [in Gujarat] that claimed the lives of hundreds if not thousands of Muslims.

On Thursday, as Modi delivered a speech to parliament, Corbyn was not present in the royal gallery. This prompted Keith Vaz, the British-Indian Labour MP, to tell the Sun that he was disappointed with Corbyn. If the British prime minister can make the time to listen [to Modi], Vaz said,why can't Jeremy Corbyn.'

Keith Vaz thanking the Tory leader whilst criticising his own. Virendra Sharma MP for Southall probably did the same.

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SIKH COUNCIL UK MEETING WITH

MODI NEVER TOOK PLACE !

The following is a statement from one of

the most respected persons in Britain Lord

Indarjit Singh of Wimbledon:

The secret meeting was so secret, that

neither the High Commission nor senior

figures in the Sikh Council were aware of

it.

It is stretching credulity to suggest that Mr

Modi is so close to the Sikh Council that

he agreed to a secret meeting behind the

backs of even those in the High

Commission!

The reality is the supposed meeting, with

Mr Modi agreeing that the Council’s list of

demands, almost certainly never took

place, and is simply a ploy to justify a

cheap photo opportunity at the expense of

Sikh interests.

If the UK Sikh community is to make any

progress, advisors to the Council, like S

Gurmukh Singh, should condemn such un-

Sikh like behaviour rather than indulge in

diversionary waffle about what S Sahib

Singh said on a totally unrelated issue.

Indarjit

Lord Singh of Wimbledon

http://dailysikhupdates.com/sikh-council-uk-meeting-with-modi-never-took-place/

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I cannot believe wat im seeing, in that, the "Sikh Council UK", held "secret meetings" with PM Modi, and pathetically describe it as "useful & constructive", unbelievable! Respec to to the member of the sikh council uk, mankamal singh, who subsequently resigned today, his letter can be seen here on the right hand side. WHEN WILL sikh "leaders" realise, that dialogue with enemies is a no-no? At the sarbat khalsa 1986, it was declared at the akal takht, that from now on, the panths objective was to form an independant sikh state, khalistan, and that there will NEVER be dialogue from there on with india govt about anything. These shameful so-called leaders have today gone basically like a homeless boy with a begging bowl (oliver twist style), asking for justice, to the PM of the VERY SAME NATION who is committing/has committed atrocities to sikhs. These clowns really think that crying to modi to stop the beadbi of SGGS, in panjab, is gonna stop, while his pet dog badal carries on with HIS shabashi (blessings)? Its an absolute joke n a half!

Could u imagine jewish leaders in the 1930s/40s having "dialogue" with hitler, AFTER hes killed 6million of ur community? Dialogue for wat exactly? PPL seem to think, theres a difference between the congress and the bjp, which if u do think there is, u need ur head testing! Remember modi has been in charge of india for 18months or so now, and wat has he done for justice for sikhs? The bjp were also in charge in the mid 90s, and had a chance, IF they cared for sikh justice, to put criminals behind bars and soften our blows (which isnt possible anyways). I concur with shamsher singhs points below!

Also im not gona criticise this k@njar southall pardhan malhi and that flower power sikh "Dr" Mohinder Singh for attending, as known sell outs, i wouldnt expect anything less from them.

Bro I think your being a bit harsh man. I think it would be wrong not to say fair play to the genuine attempts that the Sikh Council has made for the Panth since its inception. I have been a Khalistani for nearly 12 years now a lot longer then some of the fake ones who used to diss people like me but now claim to sympathise with Sikh independence but even I would say that you would have to be a fool to think that we can get self determination without talking to the Indian state. Its just a fact of life. I dont think the Sikh Council would have held a meeting if it didn't feel it was for the benefit of the Sikh population in the UK. We need to move away from just dissing everybody who tries to make a difference. We might not agree with what the Sikh Council did but cant we at least say fair play at least they are trying?

I also think that we might need to drop the name Khalistan and move to something like Azaad Panjab as I think so much damage has been done to the Khalistan brand that it will take ages to recover.

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Bro I think your being a bit harsh man. I think it would be wrong not to say fair play to the genuine attempts that the Sikh Council has made for the Panth since its inception. I have been a Khalistani for nearly 12 years now a lot longer then some of the fake ones who used to diss people like me but now claim to sympathise with Sikh independence but even I would say that you would have to be a fool to think that we can get self determination without talking to the Indian state. Its just a fact of life. I dont think the Sikh Council would have held a meeting if it didn't feel it was for the benefit of the Sikh population in the UK. We need to move away from just dissing everybody who tries to make a difference. We might not agree with what the Sikh Council did but cant we at least say fair play at least they are trying?

I also think that we might need to drop the name Khalistan and move to something like Azaad Panjab as I think so much damage has been done to the Khalistan brand that it will take ages to recover.

1. Sikh Council has been infiltrated , and despite having knowledge of the joint descisions of over 500 Gurdwarey and sikh outfits in the Uk to not negotiate with the fascists they still went ahead and did it secretly behind panth's back.

2. that meeting despite being photographed is now being denied by Modi after approving release of that ridiculous IED training farce of a story in Indian Press.

3. Now SCUK has achieved what it wanted defaming the sikhs as inept, untrustworthy (we said we would cold shoulder MOdi and instead we got shown as their lapdogs) and generally confused.

4. we did not pick the name Khalistan it was invented by Angrez back in Ranjit Singh's day , and the Nehru's revived it to use as a cosh to beat us with. we cannot use Azaad Punjab because our mission is about freeing the kaum and that is spread beyond Punjab

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SIKH COUNCIL UK MEETING WITH

MODI NEVER TOOK PLACE !

The following is a statement from one of

the most respected persons in Britain Lord

Indarjit Singh of Wimbledon:

The secret meeting was so secret, that

neither the High Commission nor senior

figures in the Sikh Council were aware of

it.

It is stretching credulity to suggest that Mr

Modi is so close to the Sikh Council that

he agreed to a secret meeting behind the

backs of even those in the High

Commission!

The reality is the supposed meeting, with

Mr Modi agreeing that the Councils list of

demands, almost certainly never took

place, and is simply a ploy to justify a

cheap photo opportunity at the expense of

Sikh interests.

If the UK Sikh community is to make any

progress, advisors to the Council, like S

Gurmukh Singh, should condemn such un-

Sikh like behaviour rather than indulge in

diversionary waffle about what S Sahib

Singh said on a totally unrelated issue.

Indarjit

Lord Singh of Wimbledon

http://dailysikhupdates.com/sikh-council-uk-meeting-with-modi-never-took-place/

If it's so secret then why'd they take pictures of the event and post it on the web?

[Cisco_Singh 563]

This was a 17 minute meeting. Gurmel Singh from sikh council UK did not even speak at the meeting. Sources from sikh council have said NONE of the issues mentioned on the press release were raised with Modi.

Only 2 things were raised: the issue of black lists and the issue of the sovereignty of Akal Takht.

In other words they are pulling the wool over the sangats eyes, they sold out for a cheap photo opportunity.

This has done more damage than good. Modi is using this as a demonstration that he is moderate and has good relations with the Sikh community.

Gurmel Singh acted without any mandate and agreement from sikh council UK.

[StarStriker 1,062]

Everyone check this picture out!

[lsingh 748]

How much respect will somebody who played a key part Bluestar and Blackthunder have for Sikhs?

This ' meeting' gets worse. They claim they discussed the sovereignty of the Akal Takht, well people in front of them were responsible for its destruction.

[Cisco_Singh 563]

Malhi, rai and Gurmel Singh age on sangat tv trying to explain their decision to meet Modi right now.

Sangat TV are so unprofessional their video link and audio keeps breaking. You can't even tell what's going on.

[StarStriker 1,062]

Malhi is an A grade fool, he cannot justify this backstabbing meeting with modi. When have opressors stopped oppressing the oppressed via a quick chat over tea n biscuits?

U c how rude they just were to the presenter on sagat tv, for asking them questions? Why did they go on sangat tv for then?

Shamsher singh made a good point in his 1 of his videos, where he says, "Every country which has gained independance, has done so through war, and not through petitions...".

Check it at 7:00mins