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Some atheists are real jerks though. I've often heard them moaning that 'religion is root cause of all war'; but they ignorantly ignore the fact that race and economic issues and greed for resources are more often the root causes of war. Some atheists do have a tendency to try and lay blame for all of societies ills at the religion's door in a way that makes no sense.

Well, how is it religions fault. Like the Crusades, it wasn't Christianities fault, it was the Pope and the Church. You see the Church used Christianity as a scapegoat and used it for war. Like come on the Church used indulgences which were pieces of paper which people payed to reduce the punishment people received for their sins. Its not religion's fault, it's the people. Some people like to use religion as a tool and get away with it and people will blame it on religion. 2, not all Atheists are bad, my friend is a Atheist and he is a nice guy. That's my view, however some people like Richard Dawkins are giving Atheism a bad name, he bashes religion and preaching Atheism like a religion as well.

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Today, my mother showed me some path on the tv and it showed this Sikh telling everyone in the gurdwara, that people who don't believe in God who say they are happy, but they actually not and they pretend. I guess he is saying that Atheism is bad? For Sikhism we don't discriminate people's beliefs, but for the path on the tv the guy is saying people who don't believe in God are unhappy. I asked my mom and she believed it, yet she told me that people can believe anything they want. I am so confused and I don't believe that stuff at all. It was on ATV, a Gurdwara Sahib Damesh Surrey, BC.

No why would Sikhs hate, pretty strong word to use for someone who does not believe in a higher being, but what's that saying ' you don't meet too many atheists in a death zone'

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No why would Sikhs hate, pretty strong word to use for someone who does not believe in a higher being, but what's that saying ' you don't find too many atheists in a death zone'!

Eh, my parents should me some path and there was some guy at the gurdwara telling people that, " People who don't believe in god say they are happy, but they are not happy". He is saying that non believers are depressed people, but that's false.

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Wrong and this is why you fall into the camp of non-Sikh with that kind of thinking.

In your logical you will tell a Sikh there is nothing wrong with converting to other religion and especially destructive negative religions like Islam that want to see us all killed or converted as their end goal.

Also by your logical there is no need for Sikhi because you can be any religion and still get to God so to a non-sikh they will think why the need for this religion that allegedly forces you to wear a turban, not cut your hair, carry a weapon,etc.

Your logic fails and its dangerous for you to spread this kind of message to yourself or others. Sikhi is about spreading Guru Ji's light to the darkness of other beliefs, those other belief systems are inferior to Sikhi otherwise why the need for Guru nanak to critise and mock them in SGGS Ji? You need to wake up and see the bigger picture.

Ok I am not sikh because :

1. I believe that Akal Purakh created ALL from itself

2. I believe Akal Purakh put everyone on their paths according to karam and bhagti

3. I believe there have been bhagats and saints in other traditions because of Kirpa

4. I believe in SIkhi but I do not have a need to denigrate others to follow Guru ji

5. I pray for sarbat da bhalla but also I act on it by helping others not expecting them to return the favour , it is nice to experience the recipriocity though

6. I believe Dasmesh Pita ji's words and I feel the same 'tum ko tumara khoob, hum ko humara khoob'

7. I believe that Guru Nanak Dev ji just speaks about the truth of the hypocrisy of individuals and the futility of rituals without the sharda or bhagti from the heart ..not laughing at people (that is mocking )

8. I believe that their are sehajdhari sikhs who are in other faiths but also take Guru ji's sharan by your words they are foolish too just because they are in those faiths but if the pandits are true as Guru ji tells hows to be , muslim is true as Guru ji tells them to be why wouldn't there be kalyan?

9. I respect Guru ji's faisla and Akal Purakh's judgement

I know I am not a sikh ...I am a human hoping to become a true gursikh inside and out...sorry if you mistake humility in refraining from criticism of others for tacit approval

of adharmic soch/behaviour . My Father taught everyone to love Akal Purakh's name and it didn't matter who it was , including my christian friend and she too japs nam just like me isn't that love ? He didn't criticise or mock he just told her that japping nam would help her in her life ..

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Ok I am not sikh because :

1. I believe that Akal Purakh created ALL from itself

2. I believe Akal Purakh put everyone on their paths according to karam and bhagti

3. I believe there have been bhagats and saints in other traditions because of Kirpa

4. I believe in SIkhi but I do not have a need to denigrate others to follow Guru ji

5. I pray for sarbat da bhalla but also I act on it by helping others not expecting them to return the favour , it is nice to experience the recipriocity though

6. I believe Dasmesh Pita ji's words and I feel the same 'tum ko tumara khoob, hum ko humara khoob'

7. I believe that Guru Nanak Dev ji just speaks about the truth of the hypocrisy of individuals and the futility of rituals without the sharda or bhagti from the heart ..not laughing at people (that is mocking )

8. I believe that their are sehajdhari sikhs who are in other faiths but also take Guru ji's sharan by your words they are foolish too just because they are in those faiths but if the pandits are true as Guru ji tells hows to be , muslim is true as Guru ji tells them to be why wouldn't there be kalyan?

9. I respect Guru ji's faisla and Akal Purakh's judgement

I know I am not a sikh ...I am a human hoping to become a true gursikh inside and out...sorry if you mistake humility in refraining from criticism of others for tacit approval

of adharmic soch/behaviour . My Father taught everyone to love Akal Purakh's name and it didn't matter who it was , including my christian friend and she too japs nam just like me isn't that love ? He didn't criticise or mock he just told her that japping nam would help her in her life ..

Love this reply if yours jkvlondon penji.

Great thoughts. ??

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Look, not all Atheists are bad. Yeah, religions caused war, but its not religions fault, its the people. Like the Crusades, the Church aka the Pope made Christianity declare war on Islam and caused so much death. Also, there are some morons who say, " Don't believe in this religion, go to hell", that's not true, that person is a <banned word filter activated> and is making religion look like a joke. Its not religions fault for causing destruction, its the people who use religion as a scapegoat. Like if someone causes damage, he will just use religion to get away with it and people will blame it on the faith. For the Atheism part, not all Atheists are rude or anything like that. My best friend is an Atheist, but he is a really nice friend of mine. Yeah there are some Atheists that make fun of people for believing in god, its their point of view, we can't criticize them. There are some Atheists that say god is fake and that people who believe in god are stupid, these people are making people think that Atheism is a rude, but its not true. So basically, its not religions or irreligion s fault, its the people who act like morons and make their own beliefs look like a joke.

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Look, not all Atheists are bad. Yeah, religions caused war, but its not religions fault, its the people. Like the Crusades, the Church aka the Pope made Christianity declare war on Islam and caused so much death. Also, there are some morons who say, " Don't believe in this religion, go to hell", that's not true, that person is a <banned word filter activated> and is making religion look like a joke. Its not religions fault for causing destruction, its the people who use religion as a scapegoat. Like if someone causes damage, he will just use religion to get away with it and people will blame it on the faith. For the Atheism part, not all Atheists are rude or anything like that. My best friend is an Atheist, but he is a really nice friend of mine. Yeah there are some Atheists that make fun of people for believing in god, its their point of view, we can't criticize them. There are some Atheists that say god is fake and that people who believe in god are stupid, these people are making people think that Atheism is a rude, but its not true. So basically, its not religions or irreligion s fault, its the people who act like morons and make their own beliefs look like a joke.

True most warfare has occurred for atheist reasons i.e. over geopolitical issues just look at USA three hundred odd years of history wars for over two hundred and twenty years, UK most of its wars for the same ...Now look at so-called religious wars , it is really empire-building too, grabbing land and subjugating people under the 'approved' faith. This is not new the roman catholic church is just the roman empire which has changed clothes to suit .The ottoman, the Timur, The mughal empire all forged for grabbing of power first then holding it by converting the people from 'them' to 'us' . This is not reflective of true Love of Akal Purakh- Akal Purakh gives without judgement even to atheists who deny Him, such is his mercy and compassion, He never tires of giving ...

True Dharmic people of whatever faith should reflect Akal Purakh's gun increasingly as they progress so they would have zero need to conquer , to criticise as they would know it is bhanna , what is meant to be , will be ...they will share gian just by living their faith and speaking of Akal Purakh without harshness of thought , action or speech. Even in the midst of battle do you really believe hate and anger (the path for ahankar) came into Akal Purakh ki fauj? No they had naam on their lips and they became the sword arm of Justice ...when the armies fell at their feet they became brothers again and helped the wounded ... this is a reflection of Akal roop , existence in unconditional love and truth...we all are one, The One.

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True most warfare has occurred for atheist reasons i.e. over geopolitical issues just look at USA three hundred odd years of history wars for over two hundred and twenty years, UK most of its wars for the same ...Now look at so-called religious wars , it is really empire-building too, grabbing land and subjugating people under the 'approved' faith. This is not new the roman catholic church is just the roman empire which has changed clothes to suit .The ottoman, the Timur, The mughal empire all forged for grabbing of power first then holding it by converting the people from 'them' to 'us' . This is not reflective of true Love of Akal Purakh- Akal Purakh gives without judgement even to atheists who deny Him, such is his mercy and compassion, He never tires of giving ...

True Dharmic people of whatever faith should reflect Akal Purakh's gun increasingly as they progress so they would have zero need to conquer , to criticise as they would know it is bhanna , what is meant to be , will be ...they will share gian just by living their faith and speaking of Akal Purakh without harshness of thought , action or speech. Even in the midst of battle do you really believe hate and anger (the path for ahankar) came into Akal Purakh ki fauj? No they had naam on their lips and they became the sword arm of Justice ...when the armies fell at their feet they became brothers again and helped the wounded ... this is a reflection of Akal roop , existence in unconditional love and truth...we all are one, The One.

If the Mughals were just some random fighters, why would they make Shaheedis of the light of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji in the forms of both Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Arjun Dev Ji and Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji? They clearly conquered the land for the purpose of spreading their religion.

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Look, not all Atheists are bad. Yeah, religions caused war, but its not religions fault, its the people. Like the Crusades, the Church aka the Pope made Christianity declare war on Islam and caused so much death. Also, there are some morons who say, " Don't believe in this religion, go to hell", that's not true, that person is a <banned word filter activated> and is making religion look like a joke. Its not religions fault for causing destruction, its the people who use religion as a scapegoat. Like if someone causes damage, he will just use religion to get away with it and people will blame it on the faith. For the Atheism part, not all Atheists are rude or anything like that. My best friend is an Atheist, but he is a really nice friend of mine. Yeah there are some Atheists that make fun of people for believing in god, its their point of view, we can't criticize them. There are some Atheists that say god is fake and that people who believe in god are stupid, these people are making people think that Atheism is a rude, but its not true. So basically, its not religions or irreligion s fault, its the people who act like morons and make their own beliefs look like a joke.

The Crusaders probably were right as their holy land was conquered by a foreign power, without the Crusades happening the Christians would basically be slaves to Muslims especially with Jerusalem being theirs.

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If the Mughals were just some random fighters, why would they make Shaheedis of the light of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji in the forms of both Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Arjun Dev Ji and Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji? They clearly conquered the land for the purpose of spreading their religion.

I said that their primary aim was empire building in first paragraph veer ji, they did shaheedi of Guru Sahiban to stop the haemmorhage of converted and hindus to Sikhi therefore undermining their grip on people's minds through fear and doctrine.

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If the Mughals were just some random fighters, why would they make Shaheedis of the light of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji in the forms of both Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Arjun Dev Ji and Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji? They clearly conquered the land for the purpose of spreading their religion.

Look, I am just saying that people use religon for their advtange and use it for bad things. Then they get away and people will blame on religon. Like the Abortion shooting Colorado, they blamed it on Christaitinity for the shootings, however the shooter was some wacko, who was told by God. In wars some people do it cause they said it from God. Come on, are people that stupid to believe that guy. Pretty much, people use God for bad things.

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The Crusaders probably were right as their holy land was conquered by a foreign power, without the Crusades happening the Christians would basically be slaves to Muslims especially with Jerusalem being theirs.

I mean during the Crusades that soldiers killed civilians in the name of "God". In attacks so many nut jobs claim they do it for "God" and it angers me. They are using God In a bad away and it's horrible, like ISIS, they killed innocent civilians for being different and they did it for' "God", but the funny thing is, most of Islam hates ISIS and considers them a disgrace.

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I mean during the Crusades that soldiers killed civilians in the name of "God". In attacks so many nut jobs claim they do it for "God" and it angers me. They are using God In a bad away and it's horrible, like ISIS, they killed innocent civilians for being different and they did it for' "God", but the funny thing is, most of Islam hates ISIS and considers them a disgrace.

I'm not saying the way the Crusaders protecting their religion was in the best way; however, they tried to protect it according to their understanding, (most of the fighters in the Crusades were poor Christian people who couldn't even read the Bible).

Look, I am just saying that people use religon for their advtange and use it for bad things. Then they get away and people will blame on religon. Like the Abortion shooting Colorado, they blamed it on Christaitinity for the shootings, however the shooter was some wacko, who was told by God. In wars some people do it cause they said it from God. Come on, are people that stupid to believe that guy. Pretty much, people use God for bad things.

Religion isn't the cause for evil; it is simply an excuse to be bad.

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Tony Blair and Dubya said God told them to invade Iraq, lol. Pappis like these give God a bad name.

water off a duck's back ... remember Akal Purakh is desireless therefore motiveless , so anyone hanging their own agendas onto Him are lying

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