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Don't worry, I'm not asking your permission. LOL!

My point is why the double standards?

I don't know of any genuine evidence that Tobacco was used for medicinal purposes by Sikh contemporaries of Guru Sahib. What gorey want to do and the ones who are blinkered with Vigyaan from the West is their own marji, koi rok nahee. So no I don't see the double standard in that sense. We seem to be quick to judge the Nihangs that take it in small quantities but have massive amounts of bhagti. I would prefer to talk to the ones that do use it daily and make up my own mind rather than rely solely on our limited mat from listening to others which results in a skewed view.

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I don't know of any genuine evidence that Tobacco was used for medicinal purposes by Sikh contemporaries of Guru Sahib. What gorey want to do and the ones who are blinkered with Vigyaan from the West is their own marji, koi rok nahee. So no I don't see the double standard in that sense. We seem to be quick to judge the Nihangs that take it in small quantities but have massive amounts of bhagti. I would prefer to talk to the ones that do use it daily and make up my own mind rather than rely solely on our limited mat from listening to others which results in a skewed view.

Ok. Where was the bhagti when Sikhs were massacred by the GOI?

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Ok. Where was the bhagti when Sikhs were massacred by the GOI?

Don't see how this is relevant to this particular discussion on Cannabis.

Nevertheless. for the sake of clarity, I find it despicable the great majority Ladliaan Faujaan have not participated in struggles over the recent decades where Taksalis and AKJ laid down their lives without hesitation and to top of it off Santa Singh rebuilt the Akal Takhat Sahib going against the wishes of the Sangat.

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Don't see how this is relevant to this particular discussion on Cannabis.

Nevertheless. for the sake of clarity, I find it despicable the great majority Ladliaan Faujaan have not participated in struggles over the recent decades where Taksalis and AKJ laid down their lives without hesitation and to top of it off Santa Singh rebuilt the Akal Takhat Sahib going against the wishes of the Sangat.

It has everything to do with it. Cannabis usage = bhagthi = saintliness = valor = bravery in battle field.....I put it in mathematical form so you can understand better.

Even a person is high in bhagthi, woudn't that translate to saintlyness in real life? I suspect the only bhagthi is getting a good buzz...LOL!

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Are you also ok with alcohol and cigarette since there are actually positive effects to both these vices?

funny ...all I talked about was knowledge of symptoms and I get sarcastic/ foolish guys coming at me ...Naam japia kar ...

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It has everything to do with it. Cannabis usage = bhagthi = saintliness = valor = bravery in battle field.....I put it in mathematical form so you can understand better.

Even a person is high in bhagthi, woudn't that translate to saintlyness in real life? I suspect the only bhagthi is getting a good buzz...LOL!

Thanks.

I've never equated 'just' saintliness/bhagti with valour, Nihang or otherwise. If this was the case what was/is the need for training, we know for a fact not all Nihangs train in Shashtar Vidya just like 90% + of Amritdharis? If all our affairs are arranged simply with bhagti Guru Sahib could have on many occasions turned the Delhi Takhat on it's head without waging a single war.

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I don't believe alcohol and cigarettes are that bad but drugs, that's a whole new ball game. I've seen drug addicts. I even know professionals giving the same jive that I'm witnessing in this thread. But they don't realise the ill effects. Like being slow. I honestly believe weed eventually makes you stupid.

Worse drug is haumai ...Guru ji da faisla ... it makes you forget Waheguru ji ....weed is dangerous for those with underlying mental issues nothing is safe even water

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It has everything to do with it. Cannabis usage = bhagthi = saintliness = valor = bravery in battle field.....I put it in mathematical form so you can understand better.

Even a person is high in bhagthi, woudn't that translate to saintlyness in real life? I suspect the only bhagthi is getting a good buzz...LOL!

Your attempt at trying to mock the use of cannabis is a fail. Cocaine is the drug that wakes the body up and gives people false bravery.........makes them feel like the biggest baddest guy out there. Cannabis does the opposite. It mellows a person out and makes them lazy, more likely to not care and enjoy the moment. No buzz from canabis. I got all this info from picking up a book and reading it. Reading books is a good thing, we learn something.

Shaheedi Degh is ONLY used for battle. There is another drink called Shardii, which is similar but minus the cannabis. This drink has a lot of nutrients and everyone should be drinking it, other than nut allergy people. Cannabis was used to decrease the pain for warfare wounds and is the safest drug. Drinking Shaheedi Degh on a regular basis is called an addiction to cannabis. Much like people who are hooked to cha or over the counter drugs...........popping Tylenol like eating smarties.

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So Jagsaw, cannabis is bad, but morphine is OK? What did the Singhs use when there was no morphine for pain killers? I'll give you a clue : it starts with c and ends with annabis.

Listen, you illterate <banned word filter activated>: I've already stated how, in the past, my grandfathers and fathers before him regularly took opium in order to work the fields and ward off malaria. That doesn't mean I would be justified in following the 'tradition' of my family in this day and age. If I did....I would be a low down dirty filthy druggie scum just like you intoxicant supporting pretend sikhs. That was then and this is now......now there are medicines that do the job.

In the past, my Sikh forefathers pissed on each other's wounds when cut in battles. But that doesn't mean I can say it is my glorious tradition to piss on my fellow man. Now, there are antiseptics that do the job.

So......just what planet do you dirty druggie wasters live on where no pain-killer exists and only the cannabis drug will do the trick ? :wow:

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I've never equated 'just' saintliness/bhagti with valour, Nihang or otherwise. If this was the case what was/is the need for training, we know for a fact not all Nihangs train in Shashtar Vidya just like 90% + of Amritdharis? If all our affairs are arranged simply with bhagti Guru Sahib could have on many occasions turned the Delhi Takhat on it's head without waging a single war.

Perhaps I get where you're coming from, weed giving that 'extra boost'. I used to do hard manual work and towards the end of the night, with a couple of beers, work seemed lighter and finished faster.I know people who have deceases like Parkinson who take weed to feel better.

However let's not kid ourselves, alcohol, cigarettes, weed....they are all intoxicants. They are not going to take you to a higher state of spiritual awareness. Instead they numb the mind.

In saying that, I believe weed and other drugs are far more dangerous then alcohol and cigarettes.

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funny ...all I talked about was knowledge of symptoms and I get sarcastic/ foolish guys coming at me ...Naam japia kar ...

This coming from someone promoting use of weed. LOL!

Worse drug is haumai ...Guru ji da faisla ... it makes you forget Waheguru ji ....weed is dangerous for those with underlying mental issues nothing is safe even water

Can someone think of God after consuming weed?

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Perhaps I get where you're coming from, weed giving that 'extra boost'. I used to do hard manual work and towards the end of the night, with a couple of beers, work seemed lighter and finished faster.I know people who have deceases like Parkinson who take weed to feel better.

However let's not kid ourselves, alcohol, cigarettes, weed....they are all intoxicants. They are not going to take you to a higher state of spiritual awareness. Instead they numb the mind.

In saying that, I believe weed and other drugs are far more dangerous then alcohol and cigarettes.

I'm no expert in what positives they derive from its use, just what I have heard and read and have no first hand experience, which is why when given the opportunity the next time I'm in Punjab I will ask them. Long term chronic use of cannabis in the incorrect dosage and on its own has been proven to destroy the neural pathways, question is, do the other ingredients alter the pharmacology of the drugs impact on the mind...something that requires further research.

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This coming from someone promoting use of weed. LOL!

Can someone think of God after consuming weed?

honestly are you an ex-user because you seem so fixed on one thing alone ...naam jap and get some laha

if cannibis freaks you out Waheguru only knows what fantasy you will come up with if I told you I have prescribed snake venom from the Surukuku bushmaster snake of South America to save my father's leg from amputation because of MRSA infection ....BTW in the week while waiting for the surgery I managed to get him to the place where he only lost the chichi and neighbouring toe of that leg ...

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