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I think the hate actually has its antecedents from the colonial period. That's when you start getting the movement to distance SIkhs from anything remotely considered Hindu (which I think it would be

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No missionary college is devoid of anti Dasam granth and heretic parcharak.

Biggest anti Dasam person was harbhajan Singh who had remained principal of shaheed Sikh missionary college Amritsara.heetics like jagtar jachak,giani Kewal Singh are from this college.

Present principal Surinder Singh of ropar missionary college is a die hard kala afghan follower and anti Dasam bani.you can imagine what he will be teaching students.

Both Ludhiana colleges are die hard kala afghana followers .

Coming to bhai pinderpal Singh ji, he studied at ropar. And started doing katha.his katha did not evoke any interest among audience. He was wise and then he got his sikhia from wadi taksal Ludhiana. His present effectiveness is because of his education from jwaddi taksal.

So basically you have confirmed everything I was arguing.

Thanks brother.

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No, not at all. You said he was anti-sikh. Nothing that GPS has suggested.

Reading comprehension is surely not this difficult. I said his parchar at one time was anti-Sikh. I also stated that his parchar today is very good.

To summarize, again: Giani Ji's parchar today is very good. I have no issues with him.

The issue at hand is the dissemination of anti-Dasam Granth views.

This very good poster, GPS, has outlined that all Missionary Colleges, to an extent, teach these views. Other posters have argued otherwise.

Which is true?

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Reading comprehension is surely not this difficult. I said his parchar at one time was anti-Sikh. I also stated that his parchar today is very good.

To summarize, again: Giani Ji's parchar today is very good. I have no issues with him.

The issue at hand is the dissemination of anti-Dasam Granth views.

This very good poster, GPS, has outlined that all Missionary Colleges, to an extent, teach these views. Other posters have argued otherwise.

Which is true?

I am sorry but we have to go in circles and end up discussing the same points I am afraid.

1)Not 'all' missionary colleges are anti-Dasam.

2)Giani Pinderpal Singh was not Anti-sikhi any point before.

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I am sorry but we have to go in circles and end up discussing the same points I am afraid.

1)Not 'all' missionary colleges are anti-Dasam.

2)Giani Pinderpal Singh was not Anti-sikhi any point before.

For the last fifteen years ever since kala afghan appearance all missionary colleges are anti dasam granth. Only exception is shaheed sikh missionary college run by SGPC but many of their products also turn anti dasam.I have a lot of interaction after kala afghan to know their views.They were all backers of kala afghan school of thought. Maximum damage was done on

internet by nephew of owner of sikh missionary college ludhiana who print Sikh phulwari.His name is birpal singh.

Bhai Pinderpal singh had his schooling from Ropar college. He made no name as a kata wachak after that as sangat was not eager to listen.

That was the reason he went to jawaddi taksal for retraining.

I met him about 10 years back he did not know much about Dasam Granth. He was eager to learn about it but was not against Dasam Granth.

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For the last fifteen years ever since kala afghan appearance all missionary colleges are anti dasam granth. Only exception is shaheed sikh missionary college run by SGPC but many of their products also turn anti dasam.I have a lot of interaction after kala afghan to know their views.They were all backers of kala afghan school of thought. Maximum damage was done on

internet by nephew of owner of sikh missionary college ludhiana who print Sikh phulwari.His name is birpal singh.

Bhai Pinderpal singh had his schooling from Ropar college. He made no name as a kata wachak after that as sangat was not eager to listen.

That was the reason he went to jawaddi taksal for retraining.

I met him about 10 years back he did not know much about Dasam Granth. He was eager to learn about it but was not against Dasam Granth.

Much thanks for providing this level of insight.

Sikh Missionary College has a strong connection with Canadian Singh Sabha and Sikh Virsa magazine. These people sponsored Inder Ghagga to Canada a little whilte back.

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singhsabhacanada a rogue anti sikh organization of jeonwala fund grumat gian missionary college ludhiana. They are not only anti dasam but also propagate

against having kes for a sikh.

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singhsabhacanada a rogue anti sikh organization of jeonwala fund grumat gian missionary college ludhiana. They are not only anti dasam but also propagate

against having kes for a sikh.

Wow, this is worse than I expected.

I'm not overly familiar with Singh Sabha Canada, as the roots are in Ontario. I'm much more familiar with Sikh Virsa as the <banned word filter activated> is based out of Alberta.

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I would say unwillingness to answer each others questions ( both in favor and against ) to the point is the only reason for whatever hate is there for dasam granth sahib and calling each other RSS agents and stuff like this shows the inability to debate on the topic.

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Firstly I'd like to say I don't have much knowledge about these sort of things, so forgive me as I am still young. If someone could educate me that would be really appreciated

At a local Gurdwara here in Canada, usually they have a stall and they had many books and gurbani gutkey. I don't usually go to this particular Gurdwara Sahib, but I have been going here recently again.

I noticed they also had what looked like Darshan Ragi's autobiography, and Kala Afghana's Bipran Ki Reet Ton Sach Da Marag. This really bothered me so I straight up questioned him as to why they have books whose Authors were excommunicated by the Akal Takht . I also said you should not be promoting books that insult the fundamentals of Sikhism such as Amrit Sanchar etc.

The guy at the stall was pretty kind and open though and he didn't seem to snap back at me (I guess he probably thought I was a young uneducated and naive dumala wearing Singh)

Ok so the next part here is just a quick summary of how I remembered he answered my question:

He explained that they were excommunicated by Joginder Vedanti for criticizing Gurbilas Patshahi 6ve , and how there was a huge arguement over that about a decade or so ago. He said katha of Gurbilas normally used to be done in Gurdwaras , and even he thought it was a good scripture, but then he said he realized there are very bad things said about Guru Sahibs. He claimed that a white Professor did a study of Gurbilas, and from her study she concluded that "Sikhs Are Bastards". He also went on to defend Kala afghana by saying he was only opposed to ritualism.

Then he argued that the Jathedar Of the Akaal Takht also gave saropey to General Dyer , the killer of the Jallianwala Bagh Massacre. He argued Jathedars have also excommincated other sikhs before.

Throughout the whole conversation, He avoided real issues in the books (Dasam Granth, Amrit Sanchar etc) , rather he explained why they were excommunicated and other history. At the end I just said " Look , I don't have much knowledge on this stuff because I am young , but I will question someone if it bothers me. I will only argue when I gain enough knowledge on the subject".

Ill name the Gurdwara Sahib and the organization behind the book stall if anyone requests

Forgive me for my mistakes

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Indian Agencies are working day and night to devise some mechanism which can break Sikhs from the Khande-Baate da Amrit Sanchar.

Out of the 5 banis read during the Amrit Sanchar, 3 come from Sri Dasam Granth Sahib.

If u break Sikhs from Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji, u also break them from Khande Baate da Amrit.

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Indian Agencies are working day and night to devise some mechanism which can break Sikhs from the Khande-Baate da Amrit Sanchar.

Out of the 5 banis read during the Amrit Sanchar, 3 come from Sri Dasam Granth Sahib.

If u break Sikhs from Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji, u also break them from Khande Baate da Amrit.

We do most of the damage ourselves. I don't doubt Indian sources have lit the torch paper, but the rest is on us. It's time we took responsibility for our weaknesses.
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Indian Agencies are working day and night to devise some mechanism which can break Sikhs from the Khande-Baate da Amrit Sanchar.

Out of the 5 banis read during the Amrit Sanchar, 3 come from Sri Dasam Granth Sahib.

If u break Sikhs from Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji, u also break them from Khande Baate da Amrit.

Without Jaap Sahib, Svaiya, Chaupi Sahib, Amrit Sanchars cannot be conducted. And no Amrit Sanchars means no more Khalsa. That is why Panthpreet and Dhunda types are so dangerous for our panth. Respected Panthic Singhs should not befriend them nor give them a platform to address the Sangat.

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