Who Is Responsible For The Hate Towards Dasam Granth?

[WaljinderSingh 827]

Sons and daughters of Guru Gobind Singh ji read and get the anand because they get the essence and understand their father's language.

Atheists and people with doubtful minds fail in doing so because they reject his Hukam and ideology which is true sign of Bemukh. It's beyond their brain-capacity to grasp the true meaning for which they lack Guru's kirpa and are certainly not naadi descendants of Dasve paatshah.

Missionary co. Ludhiana has been producing a lot of gande andey these days.

[GPS 1,327]

From what I have read, this is the part where there is the bone of contention.

These people do not even know the structure of charitropakhayan. Charitropakhayan is a third person narration cast in mantri bhoop sambad. king is old and marries a young princess by force.he has a son from previous marriage who matches age of his new wife.queen is not satisfied with king and wants to have sexual relation with step son.He refuses saying that she was his mother.queen complains to king citing sexual advance by his son.King orders son to be hanged without investigation.

Minister is very wise and knows bad character of queen.He does not say directly to king that queen is at fault fearing king will hang him too.Instead he recites stories of bad character women and men to King to let him know such people are there in society to make him realize about queen. Those stories are chariters. Upkhayan means short stories cast within framework of a large story.

So when one reads chariters one should keep in mind the context for which these are being recited.At end of each chariter it is written it is king - minister dialogue.

These missionaries lack academic and spiritual education.none of them have read charitropakhayan. They pick some lines out of context and cite saying Guru sahib can not write this.If you counter question then they run away.

Please read this also

http://sikhsangat.org/2016/rebuttal-of-gurdarshan-dhillons-comment-about-sikh-scripture-sri-dasam-granth/

[Quantavius 141]

These people do not even know the structure of charitropakhayan. Charitropakhayan is a third person narration cast in mantri bhoop sambad. king is old and marries a young princess by force.he has a son from previous marriage who matches age of his new wife.queen is not satisfied with king and wants to have sexual relation with step son.He refuses saying that she was his mother.queen complains to king citing sexual advance by his son.King orders son to be hanged without investigation.

Minister is very wise and knows bad character of queen.He does not say directly to king that queen is at fault fearing king will hang him too.Instead he recites stories of bad character women and men to King to let him know such people are there in society to make him realize about queen. Those stories are chariters. Upkhayan means short stories cast within framework of a large story.

So when one reads chariters one should keep in mind the context for which these are being recited.At end of each chariter it is written it is king - minister dialogue.

These missionaries lack academic and spiritual education.none of them have read charitropakhayan. They pick some lines out of context and cite saying Guru sahib can not write this.If you counter question then they run away.

Please read this also

http://sikhsangat.org/2016/rebuttal-of-gurdarshan-dhillons-comment-about-sikh-scripture-sri-dasam-granth/

I read that and I'm not convinced our Guruji Maharaj wrote that.

From what I've read elsewhere one of the vocal Anti Dasam crowd is Professor Darshan Singh who is a former Jathedar of Akal Takth. I very much doubt he of all people are ignorant on Sikhism.

[GPS 1,327]

Sons and daughters of Guru Gobind Singh ji read and get the anand because they get the essence and understand their father's language.

Atheists and people with doubtful minds fail in doing so because they reject his Hukam and ideology which is true sign of Bemukh. It's beyond their brain-capacity to grasp the true meaning for which they lack Guru's kirpa and are certainly not naadi descendants of Dasve paatshah.

Missionary co. Ludhiana has been producing a lot of gande andey these days.

Legend goes That Guru sahib had said that for sometime my Granth will go alop( forgotten) but will resurface.That is what is happening now. Person like me never knew about it.when kala afghana , a discredited police cat, started propaganda against it , I got curious and read it.Let me tell you our father was a genius scholar as language he used is not the language of any mortal. It is a treasure Sikhs should bring forward along SGGS ji and sikhi will flourish.

[GPS 1,327]

I read that and I'm not convinced our Guruji Maharaj wrote that.

From what I've read elsewhere one of the vocal Anti Dasam crowd is Professor Darshan Singh who is a former Jathedar of Akal Takth. I very much doubt he of all people are ignorant on Sikhism.

My brother first of all he is not professor as he is 10 grade only. It takes 17 years after ph d to become professor if one's thesis is accepted. He has put a label of lies on his forehead of professorship. He is neither a historian nor an academic.He can do kirtan on harmonium by reading from a hand written slip in front of him.A person who lies is unfit to preach as his Jeevan is low.

All his life he earned money by singing banis of Dasam granth. Now when time has changed he is making money to propagate against same Granth.

[WaljinderSingh 827]

Darahan rogi qualification is matriculation (10th grade) and a diploma in Music from Missionary college.

[GPS 1,327]

Darahan rogi qualification is matriculation (10th grade) and a diploma in Music from Missionary college.

In my view he has no diploma as he never went to college and missionary colleges did not exist that time. He learned kirtan from nanksar.

To know little bit about him he was employed as a compounder with a doctor at jargraon after matric.There he was stealing money,got caught and dismissed.

[Quantavius 141]

My brother first of all he is not professor as he is 10 grade only. It takes 17 years after ph d to become professor if one's thesis is accepted. He has put a label of lies on his forehead of professorship. He is neither a historian nor an academic.He can do kirtan on harmonium by reading from a hand written slip in front of him.A person who lies is unfit to preach as his Jeevan is low.

All his life he earned money by singing banis of Dasam granth. Now when time has changed he is making money to propagate against same Granth.

Perhaps however, he was a former Jathedar so I very much doubt his knowledge on Sikhism is questionable.

[WaljinderSingh 827]

So were shaheed Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochal and shaheed Jathedar Gurdev Singh Kaunke. Both were jathedaars of Akaal takhat. Both were students and preachers of DDT ( have immense knowledge of Dasam and SGGS bani and Sikh history). Kaunke got shaheed while he was Jathedaar of Akaal takhat.

DDT - Damdami Taksal.

Quantavius you should stop arguing now.

[jkvlondon 5,723]

I read that and I'm not convinced our Guruji Maharaj wrote that.

From what I've read elsewhere one of the vocal Anti Dasam crowd is Professor Darshan Singh who is a former Jathedar of Akal Takth. I very much doubt he of all people are ignorant on Sikhism.

he has been excommunicated so forget the past he is NO LONGER A SIKH, his bought opinion has no sway

[WaljinderSingh 827]

he has been excommunicated so forget the past he is NO LONGER A SIKH

Excommunicated by 'Akaal Takhat' to be precise...

[Quantavius 141]

he has been excommunicated so forget the past he is NO LONGER A SIKH, his bought opinion has no sway

From Sikhwiki

Recently, he was excommunicated from panth for not reciprocating his tankha. In addition, he and all other's who were "excommunicated" from the panth were called back to be given pardon, he denied, saying that going would give the jathedar's the pleasure of assuming that he agrees with their excommunication; namely, him not attending Akal Takhat to reciprocate his tankha. He said that there was evidence of him going there and this was merely a way to dis-character him.

http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Professor_Darshan_Singh_Khalsa

[jkvlondon 5,723]

From Sikhwiki

Recently, he was excommunicated from panth for not reciprocating his tankha. In addition, he and all other's who were "excommunicated" from the panth were called back to be given pardon, he denied, saying that going would give the jathedar's the pleasure of assuming that he agrees with their excommunication; namely, him not attending Akal Takhat to reciprocate his tankha. He said that there was evidence of him going there and this was merely a way to dis-character him.

http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Professor_Darshan_Singh_Khalsa

In my eyes he excommunicated himself by going against the SRM as well as becoming bemukh by throwing dubida on Guru ji's character and bachan, just because this was formalised by the Akal Takht means just a confirmation.

He has no respect for Guru Ji it is clear and neither the institutions of sikhi so why the hell does he think the Sikh world owes him anything?

[GPS 1,327]

I read that and I'm not convinced our Guruji Maharaj wrote that.

From what I've read elsewhere one of the vocal Anti Dasam crowd is Professor Darshan Singh who is a former Jathedar of Akal Takth. I very much doubt he of all people are ignorant on Sikhism.

I did not read your first line. You made a statement earlier on this topic that you do not know much about DG.

After 5 to 6 days you are writing that you have read it. What is going on.I am sorry to state that you are a habitual liar.

[Quantavius 141]

I did not read your first line. You made a statement earlier on this topic that you do not know much about DG.

After 5 to 6 days you are writing that you have read it. What is going on.I am sorry to state that you are a habitual liar.

Look, you're obviously looking for an argument and I really don't have time for that. Yes, yes....I'm some secret RSS guy. Wait! Actually I'm a Missionary! Or maybe a combo of both? I don't know man.

You better get used to the idea that not everybody is going to agree with you. And you can't convince others by fighting with them. It's not going to work.