Kaur's In Panj Piare Removed Forcefully In Toronto Sikh Day Parade

[Singh559]

there you go again ...honestly you sound like a guy slagging off singhnia just because they are women...

.here's another clue the women involved in this incident are all amritdhari girls who also train in the Gatka Akara , they do their personal development in the Khalsa way and they did not in ANY way push any agenda but respectfully asked to do nishaanchi sewa (which they had done before on more than one other occasion). Who did they ask ?The panj piare and took orders from the male organisers on more than one occasion to move out of the parade and rejoined further back to complete sewa . They were doing their duty and do not deserve this vitriol from people who just jump to false conclusions.

If anyone is selecting for panj piare sewa IT IS A BLESSING ....stop with misplaced negativity .

it is EVERY sikh's duty to do bandagi and pray for kirpa if It happens then ALL DESIRES FALL AWAY.

Again with the knife out for ALL SIKH FEMALES .... OK so ALL sikh female organisation are devoid of Sikhi , Sikh ethics, Nimrata, value.... honestly how do you live with so much self-hate ?... there are many grass roots organisations run by SInghnia which are doing so much good work : a couple of singhnia took on the immense sewa of adopting and caring for females abandoned by haters , Another bought an ambulance and in her spare time picks up laawaris corpses and cremates them , there are plenty of gatka teams, raag kirtan female jathey, individual women who are working on their personal world by doing sewa and simran in the world . What you are describing are people who are blind to the truth of SIkhi and think the cliched phrases that are bandied about is all there is to sikhi. Sikhi is simple but yet so hard to follow , instead of tearing down your sisters you should be making sure you are not falling for false agenda of others to belittle Guru Ji's Daughters and push them backwards into the subservient cowardly thoughts patterns of the other SHEEPLE in India, and make sure that they do not slack in their duties as Khalsa.

(I already previously acknowledged that I think it's okay for the bibian to do Nishan Sahib Sewa, but I'm talking about feminism and our community's take on it - what superkaur touched upon):

The problem is many apnay bibian and guys (who do it for social cliques and I argue say they're feminists because they're lonely) are getting confused with western feminism replacing Sikhi sidhaant and values which are timeless. The west is seeing a rise in feminism and thus a very strong decline in family values and this is what many people who follow Islamic-like cultures with a structure on how to outbreed the enemy are able to out breed westerners in their own countries (speaking of European countries strictly) with projected demographic changes that will make whites a minority in the future. Feminism and far left ideals are idealistic nonsense that aren't practical for Sikhs - social justice, equality, humanitarian sewa and more are NOT far left liberal ideals.

The same left is calling for supporting individuals with gender identity illnesses (transgender folk) and go as far as to say kids who have gender identity illnesses are normal and should be treated as such. This is inhumane because no one is born with a gender - it is our physical nature that defines our gender and supporting kids with this illness as being normal is condoning a lifetime of puberty hormone growth inhibitors, hormone therapy, sexual change surgeries and more.

Back to the subject of female feminism - there is no such thing as female inequality. Now, in 2016 women have never seen such freedom in recent history with the exception of our Sikh Ithihaas - we excel any western ideal of this because we have had Sikh generals like Mai Bhag Kaur and Bibi Nanaki who many Sikhs would say helped found Sikhi by doing such a pure ardaas to Vaheguru for Guru Nanak Dev Ji. She was the first Sikh. In the west feminism doesn't hold much scientific and statistical ground - the female pay gap that tumblrinas keep parroting is not an issue because it fails to account for women who prefer not to do as much work as men because they may prioritize family life due to their own choice. That is not to say some women do not forsake family and pursue career success - there are many successful women but on average if you dumb down statistics without context - you have the tumblrina feminazi agenda.

After rereading superkaur's post after reading that you called her out for probably being a dude, I now think it may be a dude, but it doesn't change the fact that he's speaking the truth. If it's a bibi then I think we both need to apologize lol.

[KhoonKaBadlaKhoon]

I thought I was the only one who found SuperKaurs posts to be odd in relation to her username. Especially for the past couple weeks.

[Akalifauj]

Clearly the Sikh women were not punj pyare. Punj pyare were behind the Singhs with the Nishan sahibs. What would the 40 mukta think in this moment. They were told by their wives and daughters to go back and fight or we are going. So why can't bibian walk in front? Whoever took the bibian out by force needs to pay for their wrong doing immediately. This cannot be tolerated. Swift action needs to be taken. Bibian cam stand before Guru Sahib with weapons and the Khalsa flag. The organizers who went against the bibian are no Sikhs. Vaheguru is forgiving but I hope Vaheguru makes them pay for it.

[InderjitS]

The feminazi ideology is trying to deeply embded itself in Sikh womens mindset already. And a new reform movement needs to start to remove this dangerous non-sikh ideology from our sisters.

Being part of the panj pyre for a woman is no achievement it's an embarrassment as its a token politically correct liberal gesture. Our sisters need to try and achieve the status of mai bhago and other great Sikh women in history who achieved greatness empowering the whole Sikh community politically and spiritually.

Sikh women rather than focusing on self development need to focus on Sikh community development. I challenge any Sikh womans organization out if its true to whats taught in SGGS Ji or not because in many instances Guru Ji critises women to dress modest and be modest and some women chose not to hear those teachings but rather others that suit their agenda. These womens orgs are mostly all feminist self development and womens "empowerment" rather than Sikh empowerment and Sikh family development.

If men had the ability to carry babies they would probably not even care what us Sikh women got up to. But because us women have the ability to carry the next generation into this hostile world it is vitally important we find sikh partners and raise Sikhs that are empowered in their faith. Feminist minded liberal women do care for Sikhism they dont care what non-sikh partner they get with and non-sikh kids born because their ideology is not the ideology Guru Ji left us with.

Agree with your sentiments but these Bibian were not representing the Panj Piyare and for what it's worth, Sant Jee is completely correct in their analysis.

[MOD]

Singhbj paji sorry I was browsing forums on my cell phone and accidentally hit delete. On mobile it doesn't ask for a confirmation and does it instantly.

Can you please remake it lol I apologize.

[singhbj singh]

ਜੋ ਹੋਆ ਹੋਵਤ ਸੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਅਪਨੇ ਕਾ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਪਛਾਨੈ ॥

ਜੋ ਭੂਤ ਕਾਲ ਮੈ ਹੂਆ ਹੈ ਔਰ ਜੋ ਅਬ ਵਰਤਮਾਨ ਮੈ ਹੋਤਾ ਹੈਂ । ਪੁਨਾ ਜੋ ਭਵਿਖਤ ਮੈਂ ਹੋਵੇਗਾ। ਸੋ ਤਿਸੀ ਕਾ ਕੀਆ ਹੂਆ ਜਾਨ ਕਰ ਅਪਨੇ ਸ੍ਵਾਮੀ ਕੇ ਹੁਕਮ ਕੋ ਪਛਾਨਤੇ ਹੈਂ। ਭਾਵ ਤਿਸ ਕੇ ਹੁਕਮ ਮੈਂ ਪ੍ਰਸੰਨ ਰਹਤੇ ਹੈਂ॥

Source - http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=286&g=1&h=0&r=0&t=0&p=0&fb=0&k=2

[MOD]

I agreed with your post that you should only go where you are respected.

I noticed many high avastha GurSikhs do this as well.

Again sorry for accidental deletion.

[JSinghnz]

Shame on the RETARDS WHO DID THIS SHAMEFUL ACT.

They have to pay for this.

[superkaur]

Interesting discussion going on in the youtube video below between two far right wing Christian white nationalists.

We as a nation are in a worse situation than white's in europe because our people are liberal and feminised to be walked all over and are not allowed to talk about it without getting jumped on by feminists and feminised men. At least the whites are free to able to discuss this and not be ashamed of it because they have foresight and can see the storm coming ahead with radical islam and its big demographic populations.

[Singh559]

Beside your points, why are you using a female online alias? That's pretty weird man.

Do you not have faith in your own logic and reasoning skills that you think becoming a female to appeal to people's emotional sentiment will help your case? Kind of ironic and I think you're probably doing more harm to what your point is than anything.