Shaheedi Degh Is The Best Medicine In The World!

[shastarSingh]

So far, I have had Shaheedi degh having sukhnidhan(cannabis). I will love to have the other version of Shaheedi Degh having chattar-dhara(poppy) in it. That will be amazing.

[Cisco_Singh]

Interesting that now since Niddar has been exposed as an rss affiliate you no longer are trying to promote his self invented SV. But still stubbornly bad mouth Gatka not realising Gatka is a broad term with many shades. Gatka can be hardcore like what the authentic Nihangs in Buddha Dal in India practice who can without a doubt decapitate any of their western Gatka critics while this broad term is also sadly used by show men types like Bir Khalsa.

As for the unarmed martial arts. Khalsa of old were never Shastar-heen. Shastars were always adorned by the Khalsa. But if by chance a Singh was unarmed that is why Guru Sahib wanted his Sikhs to learn a grappling martial art like Indian kushti. And to learn this amazing grappling art puratan Singhs did the exercises of Pehlvaans which made a single Singh so physically strong that he could take on multiple opponents. Baba Deep Singh jee was also a wrestler which is why he was so physically strong. I can imagine him practicing and swinging around on his heavy wooden moonglis which would explain how a man in his 80s was able to swing his heavy khanda and kill a whole lot of Pathans. Sorry, none of those kung fu moves of Niddar worked back then.

How exactly will kushti help you when you've been disarmed or lost your weaponry ? Without knowledge of range, striking , disarming etc. This is why eskrima has an unarmed version called panantukan which handles open hand combat against bladed weaponry. Also why the Russians have systema, the Israelis have krav maga. Having physical strength and size like wrestlers is not a good attribute for martial artists, being flexible and fast is more useful. A body builder physique is not advantageous.

Anyway back on point shaheedi degh. Yes cannabis in certain quantities has medicinal and health benefits, yes nihang Singh Khalsa did use it in historical times. Just as they jhatkad and consumed goats.

[pardesanbibbi2]

[shastarSingh]

How exactly will kushti help you when you've been disarmed or lost your weaponry ? Without knowledge of range, striking , disarming etc. This is why eskrima has an unarmed version called panantukan which handles open hand combat against bladed weaponry. Also why the Russians have systema, the Israelis have krav maga. Having physical strength and size like wrestlers is not a good attribute for martial artists, being flexible and fast is more useful. A body builder physique is not advantageous.

Anyway back on point shaheedi degh. Yes cannabis in certain quantities has medicinal and health benefits, yes nihang Singh Khalsa did use it in historical times. Just as they jhatkad and consumed goats.

Yes, Khalsa used to eat jhatka meat and Khalsa also used to do shikaar and used to eat deer, wild boar(pig) etc but i am not sure about the word 'mahaprasad' used for meat.

Meat is a tammo food with lots of protein content and shud be had once in 8-9 days.

[muscleman]

So does biliwilip, where a person just uses his body weight to defeat his opponent. The winner manages to jorrngh-nga the other person without any weapons.

This is achieved without the shahidee degh, if I am not mistaken.

[Jonny101]

How exactly will kushti help you when you've been disarmed or lost your weaponry ? Without knowledge of range, striking , disarming etc. This is why eskrima has an unarmed version called panantukan which handles open hand combat against bladed weaponry. Also why the Russians have systema, the Israelis have krav maga. Having physical strength and size like wrestlers is not a good attribute for martial artists, being flexible and fast is more useful. A body builder physique is not advantageous.

Anyway back on point shaheedi degh. Yes cannabis in certain quantities has medicinal and health benefits, yes nihang Singh Khalsa did use it in historical times. Just as they jhatkad and consumed goats.

If you think wrestling and the tough physical conditioning that goes with it is useless then please watch some mma. I like escrima weapon's training, but as far as its unarmed fighting ability is concerned it only looks good in the Bourne movies series of Mat Damon otherwise it's useless. That's why you will never see escrima/kali fighters in MMA competitions against opponents who are experts in grappling arts like wrestling, judo, bjj and striking skills derived from muay thai. No skinny sensitive escrima fighters there, because they would get their arse kicked.

Also another point. You mentioned Russians. Russia has produced renown fighters in the mma world. Point to note is they have not trained in systema instead they have trained in the Russian martial art known as Sambo which has a lot of grappling plus striking mixed into it. It is basically mma. Many Russian mma fighters are expert in Judo and wrestling because of its grappling component.

I would ask you to reconsider your views on wrestling. For the early Sikhs it was a sacred martial art because our Gurus themselves encouraged Sikhs to learn this, so it is Gurmat.

[Cisco_Singh]

There's nothing wrong with wrestling or grappling , ground work is a very useful skill to have in your repertoire. It's just not very useful in battlefield situations.

You know Singhs and their enemies wore chainmail right, and armoured plates. How would you wrestle with chainmail on ? Or jump around like gatka baaj do with a 20 kg khanda.

[jassa]

In battle field you dont go on fighting for hours. Its only two and half attacks as a thumb rule. If they miss you hit if you also miss there will not be a third chance. In todays Gatka you are taught to hit on the shield. In battle field you dont have time to do high jump moves unless you want to attract archers and get hit by an arrow.

[Jonny101]

There's nothing wrong with wrestling or grappling , ground work is a very useful skill to have in your repertoire. It's just not very useful in battlefield situations.

You know Singhs and their enemies wore chainmail right, and armoured plates. How would you wrestle with chainmail on ? Or jump around like gatka baaj do with a 20 kg khanda.

In battle field situations, a Sikh warrior is never Shastar-heen. He has Shastars everywhere, even on his dumalla. Again you fail to understand why wrestling was encouraged by the Gurus. It is useful because it gave the Sikhs the physical conditioning to become powerful fighters due to its vigorous training. Even read history of other cultures like the early Islamic history where Prophet Muhammad encouraged the Sahaaba to learn wrestling. That's why early Muslim Warriors like Caliph Umar was a renown wrestler. Read history of Iran where wrestling was also considered a sacred sport by its warriors for thousands of years.

Maybe if we followed the Guru's mat on this matter and also took up wrestling as early Sikhs did we wouldn't have so many out of shape, skinny and fat looking Sikhs as we do now. I like escrima but it gives the wrong impression to its practitioners that you can be skinny sickly looking dude and still be a dangerous fighter. MMA is more closer to Guru's mat of learning Mal Yudh or wrestling because it is great for learning takedowns, grappling while also training physically hard so you gain the strength and agility of an athletic fighter.

[Cisco_Singh]

Mass and muscle has nothing to do with being an effective fighter. Skill, technique,agilty speed wins every time.

A wrestler vs an eskrima guy in a weapons scenario not even a contest. The wrestler gets cut to shreds before he can lift an arm up.