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1 hour ago, singhbj singh said:

Should sixteen-year-olds select a faction to which they will devote the rest of their lives after taking an aptitude test.

http://divergent.wikia.com/wiki/Factions

well what happens in the book series ? people break the shackles placed on them by the leaders ....Khalsa have already done this they are all in all , 4 varnas in one , 4 ashrams in one ....choose Khalsa and be self-sovreign

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4 hours ago, singhbj singh said:

Should sixteen-year-olds select a faction to which they will devote the rest of their lives after taking an aptitude test.

http://divergent.wikia.com/wiki/Factions

Daas watched the movie a long time ago, and apparently main person had the unique test results of being multiple castes, (equivalent to Brahmin, Khatri, Shudra, Vaish), but according to Gurmat each human is allowed to do whatever they want, not be obedient to a caste, but liberation from it. A Sikh is higher than the highest caste,

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Factions can also be based on virtues like

Daya, Dharam, Himmat, Mohkam, Sahib 

Or

Ajit, Jujhar, Zorawar, Fateh.

It is not possible for an individual to have all these qualities.

In order to become an expert we choose academic subjects same principle should apply to virtues.

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2 minutes ago, Singh123456777 said:

The first two books were good. The last book was crap

I lost interest after the second book in all honesty, Seems like there's a nice trend going on in post-apocalyptic society based books. Makes me wonder if people are finally thinking a bit. 

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15 minutes ago, singhbj singh said:

Factions can also be based on virtues like

Daya, Dharam, Himmat, Mohkam, Sahib 

Or

Ajit, Jujhar, Zorawar, Fateh.

It is not possible for an individual to have all these qualities.

In order to become an expert we choose academic subjects same principle should apply to virtues.

Your going to make a new caste system, with the names of Gursikhs? Also for the 4 Hindu Varnas a person can easily be getting knowledge, (Brahmin), be physically fit, (Khatri), have a business, (Vaish), and clean their homes, (Shudra). Ajit and Fateh mean the exact same thing. Zorawar is a word meaning strong, and Juhajar means Shastardhari. (They all can easily be interconnected). And it is possible for someone to have the Punj Pyare qualities, (actually all 15 Bhagats would probably have all 5 qualities).

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12 minutes ago, Thanatos said:

I lost interest after the second book in all honesty, Seems like there's a nice trend going on in post-apocalyptic society based books. Makes me wonder if people are finally thinking a bit. 

Humanity is interested in dystopian worlds for some reason, (The Hunger Games series were also popular among people who had an interest in these sad worlds).

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1 hour ago, singhbj singh said:

Factions can also be based on virtues like

Daya, Dharam, Himmat, Mohkam, Sahib 

Or

Ajit, Jujhar, Zorawar, Fateh.

It is not possible for an individual to have all these qualities.

In order to become an expert we choose academic subjects same principle should apply to virtues.

you would be incomplete if you only have one aspect ... why divide what is naturally there in all as you progress?

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40 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Your going to make a new caste system, with the names of Gursikhs? Also for the 4 Hindu Varnas a person can easily be getting knowledge, (Brahmin), be physically fit, (Khatri), have a business, (Vaish), and clean their homes, (Shudra). Ajit and Fateh mean the exact same thing. Zorawar is a word meaning strong, and Juhajar means Shastardhari. (They all can easily be interconnected). And it is possible for someone to have the Punj Pyare qualities, (actually all 15 Bhagats would probably have all 5 qualities).

Why are you guys so obsessed with caste.

This topic is not about caste based divisions 

"Faction before blood/lineage"

It is about choosing a particular stream.

Like joining Akhand Kirtani Jatha to learn Kirtan or studying Santhiya from Damdami Taksal or learning Martial Arts from Nihangs.

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1 hour ago, Thanatos said:

I lost interest after the second book in all honesty, Seems like there's a nice trend going on in post-apocalyptic society based books. Makes me wonder if people are finally thinking a bit. 

nah it's programming to expect the dytopian model to become the norm ... anyway Guru Sahiban have already told to expect it and worse and to conquer it through sikhi

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3 hours ago, singhbj singh said:

Why are you guys so obsessed with caste.

This topic is not about caste based divisions 

"Faction before blood/lineage"

It is about choosing a particular stream.

Like joining Akhand Kirtani Jatha to learn Kirtan or studying Santhiya from Damdami Taksal or learning Martial Arts from Nihangs.

Being skilled in only one thing isn't the best ideal either, since you got the idea from Divergent you would notice she could choose any of 3 castes, (factions), among 5 total. In an ideal society, nobody would only get 60% of the choices, (if they got choose), she was born in the caste, (faction), Abnegation, but changed her caste, (faction), at least 2 times.

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3 hours ago, singhbj singh said:

Why are you guys so obsessed with caste.

This topic is not about caste based divisions 

"Faction before blood/lineage"

It is about choosing a particular stream.

Like joining Akhand Kirtani Jatha to learn Kirtan or studying Santhiya from Damdami Taksal or learning Martial Arts from Nihangs.

all sikhs have to learn to do shudh paat, be knowledgeable in dharam, do kirtan , be shastardhari (holding is not the same as being able to use effectively) each sikh represents the parents and the panth - besides all those jathebandis would all say we are sikhs not flanna flanna sikh , we are sikhs of Guru Granth sahib ji and Guru Panth Sahib ji

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10 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Being skilled in only one thing isn't the best ideal either, since you got the idea from Divergent you would notice she could choose any of 3 castes, (factions), among 5 total. In an ideal society, nobody would only get 60% of the choices, (if they got choose), she was born in the caste, (faction), Abnegation, but changed her caste, (faction), at least 2 times.

Did you read about "Factionless".

"There is one more group that is not part of the social classes or factions. These are the Factionless. These are the people who failed to complete their initiation into whatever faction they chose and live in poverty, doing the work no one else wants to do."

In reality people belonging to similar faction or jatha get preferential treatment.

Akj's marry akj, Ddt's help in placements of ddt religious workers abroad.

 

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10 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

all sikhs have to learn to do shudh paat, be knowledgeable in dharam, do kirtan , be shastardhari (holding is not the same as being able to use effectively) each sikh represents the parents and the panth - besides all those jathebandis would all say we are sikhs not flanna flanna sikh , we are sikhs of Guru Granth sahib ji and Guru Panth Sahib ji

"Jack of all king of none"

That is the reason system has not produced Khalsa but khasis, pappu's & chakkas !

Where are the dauntless when you need them ?

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