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2 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Interesting happenings in Pakistan. 

Probably need to have some insights into Pakistani society particularly in regards to a non muslim presence in their Islamic paradise. 

Pakistan was made for muslims and only muslims for Dar Ul Salam and having kafir places of worship and facilities developed must foster a lot of resentment for sections of Pakistani society.

Firstly I have no idea as to how many Sikhs live in Pakistan but I imagine it is fairly miniscule and for most of the muslims there, it is quite manageable to have a very tiny Sikh presence there.

However, now with the increase of pilgrims in Nankana Sahib, Lahore and now Kartarpur,  the presence of Sikhs is probably very worrisome to some of the Abduls and Ayeshas. 

I can imagine that one of the greatest fears of some muslims in Pakistan is the comeback of Sikhs particularly after partition . In the back of their minds, they were very fearful of Sikhs invading and demanding their lands back. (I am looking at this from a Pakistani Muslim perspective )

Pakistani muslims have no qualms about going into Kashmir and carrying out their Ghazwa E Hind but I think some of them are realising that the Ghazwa E Hind may actually be right on their doorstep and that they fear their Dar Ul Salam may become Dar Ul Harb. 

There will be more friction from certain segments of Pakistan society (particularly the Ulema types) about why the Pakistani Government and their elites spending lots of money on Gurdwaras and roads for Kafirs and those Zalims and not on more Madrassas. 

I think this reason why that Group is looking for 500 million dollars from the Sangat. 

The Business Classes of Pakistan are probably very pleased with the increased Sikh presence because they know Sikhs are big spenders and will boost some of their economy. 

There are divisions there and this needs to be more explored and we as Sikhs need to understand what this is leading to and how we should respond or what kind of pre-emptive measures we should take. 

I don't think they are worried about Sikh taking over. They are actually very aggressively promoting religious tourism among Sikhs as that can be very beneficial for their economy. 

 

Plus they have befriended Khalistanis. Their political religious organisations like Jamat e Islami has also promoted closer ties with Khalistani Sikhs since the 80s. ISI, Pakistani army is also doing its best to neutralize Sikhs. They want Sikhs to either be on their side or be neutral when they start their Ghazwa against the Hindus.

 

There are how ever a few people like Khadim Rizvi a Barelvi preacher who for some reason is very hostile towards Pakistani espablishment trying to befriend Sikhs.

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3 hours ago, Jonny101 said:

I don't think they are worried about Sikh taking over. They are actually very aggressively promoting religious tourism among Sikhs as that can be very beneficial for their economy. 

 

Plus they have befriended Khalistanis. Their political religious organisations like Jamat e Islami has also promoted closer ties with Khalistani Sikhs since the 80s. ISI, Pakistani army is also doing its best to neutralize Sikhs. They want Sikhs to either be on their side or be neutral when they start their Ghazwa against the Hindus.

 

There are how ever a few people like Khadim Rizvi a Barelvi preacher who for some reason is very hostile towards Pakistani espablishment trying to befriend Sikhs.

The Elites and the establishment probably don't feel threatened and maybe not the main Islamic institutions but some parts of Pakistani society could possibly feel a lot of concessions being made.

In a lot of cases from understanding human nature. When one concedes on one thing, it can lead to another concession and then another. 

Here is another scenario. What happens when Sikhs go in greater numbers and greater frequency that they would like to invest in Pakistan (like buy land and property ) . How would that be taken by the locals? 

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5 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

Thanx for this information.

Feel so lucky to be a sikh.

Quran is zero compared to Gurbani.

Muslims might believe in one God but their understanding of the Supreme Being is very weak.

They also have no understanding of reincarnation.

They have no clue about the existence and life of Sachkhand.

same  we are blessed to be sikhs

its important to know what scriptures of other religions say    then you know why some people of other faiths behave the way they do. 

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4 hours ago, singhbj singh said:

thats odd   he's changed his tune     whys that?    maybe hes scared he will go jail?       his brother is the one who kidnapped the sikh girl  and then he was jailed and i think the girl was returned to her family?  

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Sikhi teaches pure love   love for waheguru and humanity 

quran, bible, manusmrits etc have hatred and violence 

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1 hour ago, puzzled said:

Sikhi teaches pure love   love for waheguru and humanity 

quran, bible, manusmrits etc have hatred and violence 

An actual Jew. A Jacobite. Will tell you the Torah isn't a religous text, nor was it ever. 

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36 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

An actual Jew. A Jacobite. Will tell you the Torah isn't a religous text, nor was it ever. 

Jews traditionally believe the torah is of divine origin and is gods teachings written by moses.  

The 10 commandments from god are found in the torah   jews believe god revealed the 10 commandments to moses on mount sinai. I think moses was in conversation with god for several days while the jews were waiting for him at the bottom of the mountain.  When  moses came down with the the laws carved in stone he saw the jews dancing around and worshiping an idol of a golden calf he then got angry and smashed the stone. 

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The torah is full of violence   murder and massacre     god instructs the israelites to slaughter every man, woman, child, baby and animal  when god instructs them to invade a city,  forgot the name....

God also kills innocent first born babies.

God blows up the cities of sodom and gomorrah. 

Lot offers his daughters to get raped and later the same day his daughters have sex with him while hes drunk

Noah's son has dirty thoughts about noah

The whole thing is messed up 

 

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1 hour ago, puzzled said:

Jews traditionally believe the torah is of divine origin and is gods teachings written by moses.  

The 10 commandments from god are found in the torah   jews believe god revealed the 10 commandments to moses on mount sinai. I think moses was in conversation with god for several days while the jews were waiting for him at the bottom of the mountain.  When  moses came down with the the laws carved in stone he saw the jews dancing around and worshiping an idol of a golden calf he then got angry and smashed the stone. 

Those are jewish. 

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12 hours ago, puzzled said:

Watch this movie    I watched it years ago

Really, bro?

You want us to spend an hour and a half watching a random movie just on your say-so, and you couldn't be bothered to spend even a minute and a half writing why we should care? What the movie's about, why it's important, and what emotional impact it would have?

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5 hours ago, BhForce said:

Really, bro?

You want us to spend an hour and a half watching a random movie just on your say-so, and you couldn't be bothered to spend even a minute and a half writing why we should care? What the movie's about, why it's important, and what emotional impact it would have?

Lol   well it's about the islamicization of pakistan under PM zia. It's about a sikh woman who is left behind during the partition and then marys a muslim man and becomes a muslim. Its set in 1979 and her son is a normal young man, has a girlfriend, friends, doesnt take life too seriously etc     but then zia becomes PM and begins the islamicization of the country     her son gets involved with mullahs and becomes a extremist.   He dumps his girlfriend and makes the the wall of the local girl school 6ft tall etc      when he finds out about his mothers sikh past he calls her a kafir and tells her to publically declare her self a muslim.    The mullahs completely brainwash him and he no longer is the normal young man he once used to be.   

It's about how a ordinary young man was made into a extremist by the mullahs. PM zia started state funding madrassas and schools ran by mullahs , and mullah influence spread everywhere in the country. 

The behaviour of the men in the nankana sahib video are mullah fueled. 

If anyone is interested in those kind of movies then it's a good watch. 

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Does anyone think all that persistent cousin marriage over generations in that community may play a role in why so many of them are pervert pedos?  Some biological/genetic thing?

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