Meat a threat to our planet

[Premi5 169]

On 2/20/2020 at 6:18 PM, Not2Cool2Argue said:

 

Even that might not be enough. But it must be said, that meat is better for ur body. It has the form of nutrients that are easily digestible by our body such as heme iron vs non heme iron. 

 

 

What does meat have that vegetarians cannot otherwise get in diet?

[GurjantGnostic 525]

On 2/20/2020 at 10:18 AM, Not2Cool2Argue said:

What about the ppl doing paleo and carnivore diet? Theyve had massive benefits. 

Good point, but is that the meat?

[GurjantGnostic 525]

My point is swapping out sugar cereal and maccis for meat and veg is a still an improvement and the gi of fat is low. Wouldn't people get the same benefit from a paleo plant diet?

[jkvlondon 5,001]

9 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

My point is swapping out sugar cereal and maccis for meat and veg is a still an improvement and the gi of fat is low. Wouldn't people get the same benefit from a paleo plant diet?

bro saying fat has low GI is scraping the barrel bottom pure fats of course have no sugars .... but what they do in the body after a while is gunk up cells so your cells cannot take up glucose in blood and then liver becomes fatty as your body tries to  save itself .

[Not2Cool2Argue 501]

On 2/25/2020 at 10:43 PM, GurjantGnostic said:

My point is swapping out sugar cereal and maccis for meat and veg is a still an improvement and the gi of fat is low. Wouldn't people get the same benefit from a paleo plant diet?

Good point. But ppl have tried vegan diets and have lots of negative outcomes. Such as raw vegans. 

And for vegetarian diets, indians have lots of diabetes. But that is probably due to lots of unhealthy food.

You are right that a paleo plant diet could work. There is even a study in an indian journal about using a paleo plant diet to reverse or better manage diabetes. And they provided a list of protein and fat based meals. 

[Not2Cool2Argue 501]

On 2/26/2020 at 8:38 AM, jkvlondon said:

bro saying fat has low GI is scraping the barrel bottom pure fats of course have no sugars .... but what they do in the body after a while is gunk up cells so your cells cannot take up glucose in blood and then liver becomes fatty as your body tries to  save itself .

Are you sure its fat causing the insulin resistance? 

Wouldnt it just be the excess glucose?

[jkvlondon 5,001]

6 minutes ago, Not2Cool2Argue said:

Are you sure its fat causing the insulin resistance? 

Wouldnt it just be the excess glucose?

 

6 minutes ago, Not2Cool2Argue said:

Are you sure its fat causing the insulin resistance? 

Wouldnt it just be the excess glucose?

this explains the mechanism with papers quoted

 

[GurjantGnostic 525]

Is the paleo benefit temporary from triggering like an artificial ketosis then?

[jkvlondon 5,001]

1 minute ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Is the paleo benefit temporary from triggering like an artificial ketosis then?

mostly its like shifting the fat from the least dangerous places to the most dangerous not a good swap.