One thing Sikhs should understand about todays modern Indian Hindu's

[ChardikalaUK]

2 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

If there was a hypothetical smack-down between Hindus and Muslims in India, that would be one of the rare instances where I'd prescribe a Bhai Kanaiya approach. Side with nobody but provide ONLY support in the form of food, shelter, etc., when necessary. Don't get caught up in the adrenaline fuelled situation as it's occurring, but DO keep in mind that, as Sikhs, you would still need to live amongst the same people when it's over. Making a dodgy decision will be remembered by neighbours and others. Don't open yourself up to delayed reprisals by allowing emotion to dictate decision making. 

Muslims have no chance in any battle. Low numbers in Police and Army = suicide.

[MisterrSingh]

3 hours ago, ChardikalaUK said:

Muslims have no chance in any battle. Low numbers in Police and Army = suicide.

I keep forgetting about the role of Indian police in these types of communal "riots." Yeah, taking into consideration their involvement, I don't think there'd be much of a contest.

[Ranjeet01]

2 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

I keep forgetting about the role of Indian police in these types of communal "riots." Yeah, taking into consideration their involvement, I don't think there'd be much of a contest.

In time of partition, the bulk of the police force in Punjab was muslim and they were utilised extensively by the muslim mobs.

So it quite unbelievable how the muslims of East Punjab were cleared even with overwhelming odds stacked against us.

I think the propensity for violence for us Sikhs is greater when gloves come off. Our bloodlust is far higher than both hindus and muslims which is why we are always quite refrained from going through these kinds of acts. 

Hindus and Muslims when given an advantage will exploit it to it's fullest.

[MisterrSingh]

36 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

In time of partition, the bulk of the police force in Punjab was muslim and they were utilised extensively by the muslim mobs.

So it quite unbelievable how the muslims of East Punjab were cleared even with overwhelming odds stacked against us.

I think the propensity for violence for us Sikhs is greater when gloves come off. Our bloodlust is far higher than both hindus and muslims which is why we are always quite refrained from going through these kinds of acts. 

Hindus and Muslims when given an advantage will exploit it to it's fullest.

We are latent psychos, aren't we? Happy and smiling when the world is being good to us, but when buttons are pushed... the red mist.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

If there was a hypothetical smack-down between Hindus and Muslims in India, that would be one of the rare instances where I'd prescribe a Bhai Kanaiya approach. Side with nobody but provide ONLY support in the form of food, shelter, etc., when necessary. Don't get caught up in the adrenaline fuelled situation as it's occurring, but DO keep in mind that, as Sikhs, you would still need to live amongst the same people when it's over. Making a dodgy decision will be remembered by neighbours and others. Don't open yourself up to delayed reprisals by allowing emotion to dictate decision making. 

My Hindu neighbors never forced their religion on me, or even indirectly or subtly forced hinduism on me (except for inviting me in their puja or occassional loudspeakers during one or two festivals in a year)

But I am sure if I were in pakistan or even in a muslim ghetto elsewhere in world I would have been persuaded to islam in some way or the other.

I remember working an odd job 10 yrs back in a muslim dominated office , just the staff around me was muslims,not even the locality, I was still asked by the guys to join them in friday Namaaz . Islam doesn't deserve to be in future. Its a crrap religion . 

[Ranjeet01]

39 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

We are latent psychos, aren't we? Happy and smiling when the world is being good to us, but when buttons are pushed... the red mist.

I have heard stories of the GT road from Jalandhar to the Beas being strewn with dead bodies during partition. 

They are likely to be the dead bodies of muslims. 

It makes us Sikhs very uncomfortable I think, we are hardwired to be complete savages if the s*** hits the fan.

We are a dangerous people.

[Jonny101]

21 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

I have heard stories of the GT road from Jalandhar to the Beas being strewn with dead bodies during partition. 

They are likely to be the dead bodies of muslims. 

It makes us Sikhs very uncomfortable I think, we are hardwired to be complete savages if the s*** hits the fan.

We are a dangerous people.

In 1857 when Sikhs helped the British due to wanting to take revenge against the sepoys they showed so much brute strength against the sepoys and their armed Bhaiya supporters that Lakhs were killed. Delhi was destroyed. 

During partition it was no holds barred contest. All law and order had broken down. Hindus could not have stopped the Muslim hordes had Sikhs under Master Tara Singh not taken a stand. 

[Jonny101]

6 hours ago, ChardikalaUK said:

Muslims have no chance in any battle. Low numbers in Police and Army = suicide.

Indian Muslims alone are nothing. They need help coming from their co religionists from the neighboring countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh. It's only a few more years left but I think that there will be a lot of unspeakable violence between Hindus and Muslims of the subcontinent.

[Ranjeet01]

16 minutes ago, Jonny101 said:

Indian Muslims alone are nothing. They need help coming from their co religionists from the neighboring countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh. It's only a few more years left but I think that there will be a lot of unspeakable violence between Hindus and Muslims of the subcontinent.

The only neighbouring country that may be able to help them is Pakistan. 

India has some long term strategies, they are fomenting trouble in Balochistan  (basically they are trying to assist the natives there from seceding).

There is a lot of resentment in Pakistan over the dominance of Punjabi muslims there.

The Indians will keep the Pakistanis occupied with internal problems.

Bangladesh are only good for pushing illegal migrants across the border. That country is sinking literally. 

Modi Government has been in power for several years, I can expect them to be in power for several years more.

Amit Shah is being groomed to be his successor and there is another guy after him.

BJP has the potential  to be in power for decades. 

With any escalation  of muslim violence getting constant beat downs will have a detrimental impact on them.

I have no idea what the long term Hindutva plan is for the muslims. They can say to them "you guys wanted a separate Muslim country. If you don't like it,leave for Pakistan"

There is no way they will leave for Pakistan and no way Pakistan will accept them. 

This may prove that muslim brotherhood is a myth.

The muslim population in India will be given an ultimatum. 

Ghar Whapsi or else.

[ChardikalaUK]

1 hour ago, Jonny101 said:

In 1857 when Sikhs helped the British due to wanting to take revenge against the sepoys they showed so much brute strength against the sepoys and their armed Bhaiya supporters that Lakhs were killed. Delhi was destroyed. 

During partition it was no holds barred contest. All law and order had broken down. Hindus could not have stopped the Muslim hordes had Sikhs under Master Tara Singh not taken a stand. 

Read this article about how efficient and organised Sikhs were during the partition violence. It's written by a Pakistani and he admits just how much butt we kicked. We were outnumbered 4 or 5 to 1 by muslims in Punjab but killed way more of them than they did us. Could any other community do such a thing? 

I don't condone what happened but the muslims started it by massacring our people in Rawalpindi and we struck back with a ferocity that still shakes them up to this very day.

We were on our way to clearing out all muslims from Delhi but that cowardly gujju Sardar Patel stopped us.

https://caravanmagazine.in/vantage/did-sikhs-squads-participate-organised-attempt-cleanse-east-punjab-during-partition