One thing Sikhs should understand about todays modern Indian Hindu's

[Guest]

1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

The posts above the one you quoted provide the context. The general attitude of willing subordination to Islam and Muslims -- where we willingly and easily compromise our core beliefs (particularly those that contradict the modern liberal narrative), in this example providing solidarity with Muslims -- in general that's being pushed by a certain ideological faction of Sikhs, as a misguided attempt to exemplify the tolerant and oneness strand of the Sikh religion. What they fail to understand is that these displays of magnanimity would only be respected and considered a virtue by Islamics if we ourselves were in a comparable position of strength.

Instead, this grovelling subservience (dressed as haughty piousness) comes across as an act of pathetic cowardice almost as if we're getting ready to be conquered, so that when the inevitable does transpire we can remind our conquerors how we stood with them. The problem for our cowards is that the Muslims won't care.

As for the "game" it's part of the grand Problem>Reaction>Solution process that's been in full flow for a while now. Every major and subsequent minor development on this planet is as a result of said process. I wonder why our myriad of brahmgyanis and mahapurashes have no knowledge of the world outside the confines of Bharat despite the worldwide migration of Sikhs for the past 70 years or so.

recently a saabat-soorat "dhadha-parkash" sikh police cop in Jammu invited muslims for ramadan meal , and gave all of them a copy of quran for "maanavta da sandesh" typical things our lot do , without realizing the same quran calls for war against him and to put him under the aara. 

LMAO. 

[Premi5]

 

 

39 minutes ago, ipledgeblue said:

which part is irrelevant to those of us in England?

Title of the thread as below, concerns Indian Hindu's. Ok, so the thread itself does have some relevance, as it is good for all SIkhs to be aware of the situation in India, which will affect us to some extent abroad too, but thread has gone quite off topic now

One thing Sikhs should understand about todays modern Indian Hindu's

[Premi5]

48 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

Muslims , due to their bloodlust and knack for meat , run economies based on meat and give you a taste of Qalma being recited on meat.

What a shameless lot we have become to eat a food on which quranic verses have been recited upon,

Our ancestors were gruesomely tortured but didn't accept this cult, and look what we have become. 

EDIT ---

can our FUDDU lot give jhatka competition to halal business ? naah, we are holier than thous and we don't eat meat. ewww

Meat is bad for you spiritually, we do not need to compete, just to AVOID meat altogether

[MisterrSingh]

17 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

recently a saabat-soorat "dhadha-parkash" sikh police cop in Jammu invited muslims for ramadan meal , and gave all of them a copy of quran for "maanavta da sandesh" typical things our lot do , without realizing the same quran calls for war against him and to put him under the aara. 

LMAO. 

Like I said, if this woeful ignorance of Sikh realpolitik becomes the default amongst Sikhs across the world, then we deserve to disappear off the face of the earth. Greater civilisations than ours; empires that flourished for tens of thousands of years; that enriched humanity and contributed to its evolution as an intellectual and spiritual force, are now buried in the dust and nearly forgotten.  We're on the downward curve before the 600-year milestone.  If we don't buck-up our ideas, the sands of time await, ready to embrace us into nothingness.

[Guest]

50 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

empires that flourished for tens of thousands of years

this is a hyperbolic statement though lol , but I get your gist. 

[Ranjeet01]

6 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

The Kashmir issue seems to have been seized upon by certain Western parties as a means to damage an India that is seen to have embraced an intolerant and extreme attitude to Muslims. Kashmir is being discussed in the open in a way it never was in previous years and decades. What are the chances of India crumbling under immense and concerted pressure to let go of Kashmir?

No chance.

There has been an attempt to internationalise the Kashmir situation for a couple of decades. 

India won't let go.

The fact that they have split the state, put Ladakh under central control and got rid of article 370, I think has strengthened their hand.

Economically they think are stronger and have far more leverage. 

Leverage is what matters, there will be countries that will play lip service about "self determination of Kashmir people" but they won't do anything if their economic ties are more important. 

In order for there to be a plebiscite, Pakistan will need to relinquish their control of their occupied areas. 

Pakistan won't do that.

Then there is the question of the part that is controlled by China (Aksai Chin). This is what Pakistan gave to China.

China won't relinquish that.

That is what India will say and everyone will be back to square one. 

The logical solution would be to turn the line of control (LOC) into an international border.

That won't satisfy Pakistan because of Ghazwa -E-Hind fantasies. 

The only western power that may have influence is the U.S. The EU is a joke.

The US will support an independent Kashmir if there is something in it for them, like an airbase or some military presence. 

China will not like that, nor will Russia. 

Then it will be China,Russia,India vs USA and Pakistan. 

Iran will join in with India, Russia and China. 

The US cannot take on India, Russia and China. It is too much for them.

 

 

[Guest]

54 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Like I said, if this woeful ignorance of Sikh realpolitik becomes the default amongst Sikhs across the world, then we deserve to disappear off the face of the earth. Greater civilisations than ours; empires that flourished for tens of thousands of years; that enriched humanity and contributed to its evolution as an intellectual and spiritual force, are now buried in the dust and nearly forgotten.  We're on the downward curve before the 600-year milestone.  If we don't buck-up our ideas, the sands of time await, ready to embrace us into nothingness.

I feel the seeds of our current miseries were sown when we lost our political sovereignty.

We have never recovered from it ! 

[ChardikalaUK]

7 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

The Kashmir issue seems to have been seized upon by certain Western parties as a means to damage an India that is seen to have embraced an intolerant and extreme attitude to Muslims. Kashmir is being discussed in the open in a way it never was in previous years and decades. What are the chances of India crumbling under immense and concerted pressure to let go of Kashmir?

No chance of that happening at all. Then other Indian states would try the same thing.

India is not a proper country, it is more similar to the EU. Kashmir leaving could cause a collapse.

[MisterrSingh]

3 hours ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

this is a hyperbolic statement though lol , but I get your gist. 

Okay, lol, I I got a bit excited.

[MisterrSingh]

3 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

No chance.

There has been an attempt to internationalise the Kashmir situation for a couple of decades. 

India won't let go.

2 hours ago, ChardikalaUK said:

No chance of that happening at all. Then other Indian states would try the same thing.

India is not a proper country, it is more similar to the EU. Kashmir leaving could cause a collapse.

 

In that case, I wonder what the tipping point would be, in terms of India's mistreatment of Kashmiri Muslims before "something" happens. If India keeps applying pressure in Kashmir and continues its general Hindutva policies, then I think the recent Arabian outcry and Western verbal interventions will begin to increase.

India's recent squaring up against China is a poorly planned strategy. China's own problems with the Uighurs gave both countries somewhat of a common problem (uppity Muslim demographic needing to be taken down a peg or two before they become a bigger problem), but India decides to posture on the international stage by pandering to growing Western anger at China for the Covid crisis.