Jump to content

UP incident : Sikh beaten and dragged by kes , made to run , turban thrown in sewer .


Recommended Posts

 

 

Even if one reasons he did something wrong to deserve a beating, I don't see a justification to remove his turban and drag by Kes. But I see its increasingly becoming common in arguments, that sikh guy's turban is removed from head, which honestly as we all turbaned men can agree is akin to stripping someone naked. 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Thats why Guru Ji gave Sikhs the kirpan and right to bear arms to defend themselves. Lets be clear the reason why they attack is because they think these sardars are weak and not able to attack back. Wearing a dastar means you need to carry weapons too. If the sardars dont carry arms then they shouldnt complain when they get attacked and their dastaars chucked they chose not to listen to their Guru and defend themselves with shastars.

If these hooligans knew they would get killed or injured if they took on an armed sardar they wouldn't dare try it on.

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
16 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

 

 

Even if one reasons he did something wrong to deserve a beating, I don't see a justification to remove his turban and drag by Kes. But I see its increasingly becoming common in arguments, that sikh guy's turban is removed from head, which honestly as we all turbaned men can agree is akin to stripping someone naked. 

 

Our Sikh brothers in states other than Punjab need to start retaliating with severe force or face being humiliated like this on a daily bases.  We all saw the Nihung Singh recently who gave the Punjab Police a stern reply.  The message this sends out to the rest of the skinny Indians is ‘Singhs have gone soft’.  Wherever Sikhs are outnumbered outsider of Punjab, the need to form small Jathe made of young fearless Singhs who carry out punishment missions against those who are identified in the humiliation of articles of faith.  Then this will stop!

Link to post
Share on other sites
34 minutes ago, TigerForce1 said:

Our Sikh brothers in states other than Punjab need to start retaliating with severe force or face being humiliated like this on a daily bases.  We all saw the Nihung Singh recently who gave the Punjab Police a stern reply.  The message this sends out to the rest of the skinny Indians is ‘Singhs have gone soft’.  Wherever Sikhs are outnumbered outsider of Punjab, the need to form small Jathe made of young fearless Singhs who carry out punishment missions against those who are identified in the humiliation of articles of faith.  Then this will stop!

The thing about directly attacking , like in case of nihang, is that then the state machinery starts tagging you as criminals and lawless and state machinery is unleashed on you.

honestly its a catch-22 situation, and I don't see any easy solution to this 

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

The thing about directly attacking , like in case of nihang, is that then the state machinery starts tagging you as criminals and lawless and state machinery is unleashed on you.

honestly its a catch-22 situation, and I don't see any easy solution to this 

Which is where the sikh leadership and sikh media needs to speak up on behalf of Sikhs. If SGPC and akali dali are sold out then new institutions must be raised to give Sikhs that voice and protection.

Link to post
Share on other sites
33 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

The thing about directly attacking , like in case of nihang, is that then the state machinery starts tagging you as criminals and lawless and state machinery is unleashed on you.

honestly its a catch-22 situation, and I don't see any easy solution to this 

Direct action gets instant results and deters others from getting the same idea. No one is going to save you and living up to the states expectation of being labelled law abiding and peaceful, will only empower other skinny bayeh to have a go at Singhs outside of Punjab.  There was a time when people used fear Sardars now you’ve got these malnourished bayeh chasing Singhs.  It’s time to reclaim the image. 

Link to post
Share on other sites

See, it's when Hindus do stuff like this that pushes Sikhs closer to Muslims. Add to this the fact the hundreds of Sikh families who settled in UP after partition are now being uprooted again by the UP government. That's why Sikhs start to get back at Hindus by supporting their enemies i.e. Kashmiris, Rohingyas, anti CAA protestors.

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
17 minutes ago, Jonny101 said:

See, it's when Hindus do stuff like this that pushes Sikhs closer to Muslims. Add to this the fact the hundreds of Sikh families who settled in UP after partition are now being uprooted again by the UP government. That's why Sikhs start to get back at Hindus by supporting their enemies i.e. Kashmiris, Rohingyas, anti CAA protestors.

idolatry has killed Hindus spiritually. Gurbani calls them blind.

they hv lost their own dignity and they totally attack the dignity of their opponent.

Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Jonny101 said:

See, it's when Hindus do stuff like this that pushes Sikhs closer to Muslims. Add to this the fact the hundreds of Sikh families who settled in UP after partition are now being uprooted again by the UP government. That's why Sikhs start to get back at Hindus by supporting their enemies i.e. Kashmiris, Rohingyas, anti CAA protestors.

There is nothing that will piss off the Bahman-Bania combine than Sikhs doing parchar among lower caste Hindus. I remember reading a book a few years ago which was about Muslim politics in UP before partition and it stated that there was an UP Sikh conference  arranged by the Akalis under Master Tara Singh in Aligarh which had a large Muslim population. The conference was attended by over 1 lakh Sikhs and non-Sikhs and there was a large number of Sikhs from Punjab. At the conference before the political speeches Master Tara Singh made a call from among the Hindus attending to convert to Sikhism. According to the police report of that time over 23000 Hindus who were Jats, Ahirs and lower castes become Sikhs on that day. Over 30000 Kirpans were distributed at the conference and naturally this panicked the Muslims of Western UP but also many Congress Hindus wrote to Nehru and the other leaders criticising the Sikhs for converting Hindus and in their view weakening the Hindus. If Ravi Singh really wants to piss of Hindus and the Indian govt then he should be concentrating on helping lower caste Hindus who are suffering under the Hindu caste system. Helping Muslims and thus strengthening them is shooting the Kaum in the foot. 

  • Like 4
Link to post
Share on other sites

@proactive ...100% agree with you... Buddhists have been doing this for some time.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/a-million-low-caste-hindus-to-convert-to-buddhism-1.334983

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/04/dalit-buddhism-conversion-india-modi/557570/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/oct/13/religion.india

Shame on ourselves that 'Jatt' culture has completely overshadowed Sikhi which for all castes to follow. This is why christian missionary have taken over India. I remember Bhai Jagraj Singh mentioned this many times to preach to lower castes to come into Sikhi, and then Khalsa will take over.  Punjabi Jatt are just as bad as Hindu Bahmans now. 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

I didnt click on the video   i dnt wanna see it, there is nothing worse than being dragged around by your hair,  why didn't he beat them up or was he the only Sikh there. If your kes open then just continue fighting! iv seen old paintings of Sikhs in war with sullay and there were some with their kes open but they continued fighting.

My Nanis family are from Haryana Rotak/Hisar and back in the days they had jameen in UP but they sold it. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
47 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

@proactive ...100% agree with you... Buddhists have been doing this for some time.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/a-million-low-caste-hindus-to-convert-to-buddhism-1.334983

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/04/dalit-buddhism-conversion-india-modi/557570/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/oct/13/religion.india

Shame on ourselves that 'Jatt' culture has completely overshadowed Sikhi which for all castes to follow. This is why christian missionary have taken over India. I remember Bhai Jagraj Singh mentioned this many times to preach to lower castes to come into Sikhi, and then Khalsa will take over.  Punjabi Jatt are just as bad as Hindu Bahmans now. 

I don't think that the higher castes are too worried about the lower castes becoming Buddhists because they are not entering a religion that makes the adherent more politically or socially active like turning a Dalit into a Khalsa. A Dalit becoming a Khalsa means that even the higher caste Hindu has to then refer to him as a Sardar or Sardarji. He also can add Singh to his name which for the caste Hindus is a big insult because according to them only the warrior castes like Rajputs and some Hindu Jats can have Singh in their name. By becoming a Buddhist they just add Bodh to their name which basically in today's India after Ambedkar's conversion is just another type of Dalit. 

I don't think we can entirely blame the Jats for Sikhi not having made an impact on the Dalit that it should have. Jats are just the majority and the majority in every religion will always rule the roost. If the Khatris were in a majority then they would have mould Sikhi the way they want and that goes for every caste. If you look at Islam the Arabs occupy the status that Jats do in Sikhi. The reason you don't get the same situation in Islam is that Arabs are not the majority in every Islamic country if that was the case than you would have the same situation that you get in Sikhi. If the Dalits had converted to Sikhism in massive numbers after 1699 then they would have had leadership of the Misls or even had a few Misls solely consisting of Dalits and then like the Jats they also would have been part of the land owners and thus would have been on par with the Jats. 

This is why one of best way to eradicate caste would be if significant numbers of non-Jats or non-Punjabis were to become Sikhs. 

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, Jonny101 said:

See, it's when Hindus do stuff like this that pushes Sikhs closer to Muslims. Add to this the fact the hundreds of Sikh families who settled in UP after partition are now being uprooted again by the UP government. That's why Sikhs start to get back at Hindus by supporting their enemies i.e. Kashmiris, Rohingyas, anti CAA protestors.

not just hundreds bro 30,000 sikh farmers and their families have had their crops and lands stolen , in fact there were incidents a few location during covid lockdown where crops were stolen from outside punjab sikhs by police/GOI . these UP settled sikhs came there to settle because they followed the taunt get the land that the muslims left behind from gandhi nehru, so they bought and worked the land since 47. Now these families are destitute with no place to go during covid lockdown , so could easily be picked off by mobs/police. This is not the first time this has happened , because nobody supported the rajasthan settled farmers or the Gujarat settled farmers to fight for their rights they are rolling this dodgy bs law in numerous states.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt


×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use