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What's the west have to do with this? We can discuss the topic of casteism from a Sikhi framework between ourselves that's nothing to do with the west. Plus you're wrong, the west as a norm tries

Nah, I've been mentally and spiritually conditioned by Sikhi. That's what casteists, whether bahman or juts can never understand.  In any case, the goray who you (rightly) accuse above seem to ow

That's a bit unfair. Whole countries such as USA and Canada were erased using starvation as a tool of war as the people were not seen as useful. Africans were tortured and enslaved due to their useful

Whilst this sketch is based mostly on fact, I'm rather tired of seeing such self-flagellation, when the Western powers are intricately involved in far worse practices involving blood rituals, sex rituals involving children as well as the dark arts to ensure their ongoing control over all aspects of govts worldwide. 

In fact they need to remove the caste boundaries to bring down whatever control Indians have been exercising over their own societies, yet they have never shown any interest in destroying anyone else's.  But this is a problem for the West. 

Though I'm not caste conscious I'm beginning to think this might be the reason why Indians have been able to hold off against total annihilation for more than a thousand years, unlike the rest of the world. 

 

 

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6 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

 

Lol. The part about if the dj plays all the Jatts make some noise your family can't make noise made me. Lol. I know it's funny but it's too sad for me to laugh overall. Still. Lol. 

The shoe cleaning at the end is lol too. 

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I've been mixing with desis recently, anyone else notice the contrived, exaggerated laughing after making statements, and then looking around for people to join them. It's funny and weird. lol

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4 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I've been mixing with desis recently, anyone else notice the contrived, exaggerated laughing after making statements, and then looking around for people to join them. It's funny and weird. lol

fakeness is the name of the game these days , it was cringeworthy when the uncles and aunties used get together to throwdown their kids' achievements but now it is beyond stupid . The lies start flowing and then the upmanship annihilates any person's sense in a 20 mile radius.

I refuse to be drawn into this when relatives ask after the kids  because I used to hate what their BS made my mum feel inadequate though I was an A+ student.

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14 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

fakeness is the name of the game these days , it was cringeworthy when the uncles and aunties used get together to throwdown their kids' achievements but now it is beyond stupid . The lies start flowing and then the upmanship annihilates any person's sense in a 20 mile radius.

I refuse to be drawn into this when relatives ask after the kids  because I used to hate what their BS made my mum feel inadequate though I was an A+ student.

I knew one guy, whenever I spoke to his father, the old man would go into a depressing diatribe about how useless the son was blah blah blah. How he wasted his life on him.  He'd get really worked up about it and go on and on.....until it was uncomfortable and embarrassing. 

Then one day I saw him sitting around with his pals, his face was all lit up and beaming, and he was telling them how great the son was..........

Apnay are frequently full of shyte like that. It's VERY common, and I don't see it in many other communities to that extent. I wonder what the reasons for our lot doing this shyte is? 

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19 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

What's the west have to do with this? We can discuss the topic of casteism from a Sikhi framework between ourselves that's nothing to do with the west.

Plus you're wrong, the west as a norm tries to breakdown structures of all indigenous people 

Documented History shows that there was no Caste in India until the Brits went around the country making sure everyone had a caste though many did not. I have shared this before.  So it has everything to do with them. It's yet another divide and rule tactic. The Indians had varna based on ones individual qualities that meant people could change their grouping. Further debate would probably require a separate thread. 

Please don't normalise crimes of murder, genocide suffered by millions otherwise you're closing the doors to debate.

As the subject matter affects Indians as a whole I doubt you can isolate it as just a problem within Sikhs. 

 

 

 

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22 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Yes, because they fell on their knees and lived like sycophantic, subjugated rats for a long time. They became the play things and tools of conquerors and collaborated with them to survive, shitting on their own that they deemed beneath them in the caste hierarchy, because they weren't manly enough to take on their enslavers. That's how Indians got their renown timid, coward 'peace-loving' reputation 

That's a bit unfair. Whole countries such as USA and Canada were erased using starvation as a tool of war as the people were not seen as useful. Africans were tortured and enslaved due to their usefulness in physical labour. So why couldn't they resist the onslaught of the West? 

India's GDP was 40% before the Islamic invasions so we must have been doing something right. At the time of British takeover GDP was 23%. By the time they left it was 2%. 

As the media is wholly controlled by the West I'd ignore their attempts at painting us in a negative light. That's part of their psychological control over the narrative - oh they deserved it as they were ____ (castist etc etc). Read up on MkUltra on how they developed mind control techniques. 

Before we take on an enemy we need to understand their mentality and their methods. We now know their methods to be evil and cruel and utterly selfish. Hence why we are facing what we are today. It is utterly shocking and reprehensible for which most do not have a plan.

So before criticising our ancestors we need to try and put ourselves in their shoes. We all have personal stories of how partition was attained and at what cost so based on that we should be able to muster a modicum of empathy and sympathy before formalising a plan. 

Do you have any ideas on how to defend ourselves in this scenario?

 

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17 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

fakeness is the name of the game these days , it was cringeworthy when the uncles and aunties used get together to throwdown their kids' achievements but now it is beyond stupid . The lies start flowing and then the upmanship annihilates any person's sense in a 20 mile radius.

I refuse to be drawn into this when relatives ask after the kids  because I used to hate what their BS made my mum feel inadequate though I was an A+ student.

For our people, faking, lying and bragging is seen as a good thing.

Being humble is seen as foolish

Perception and self-deception is everything

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2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I knew one guy, whenever I spoke to his father, the old man would go into a depressing diatribe about how useless the son was blah blah blah. How he wasted his life on him.  He'd get really worked up about it and go on and on.....until it was uncomfortable and embarrassing. 

Then one day I saw him sitting around with his pals, his face was all lit up and beaming, and he was telling them how great the son was..........

Apnay are frequently full of shyte like that. It's VERY common, and I don't see it in many other communities to that extent. I wonder what the reasons for our lot doing this shyte is? 

It is our people's fickle nature.

It is whatever floats their boat at that particular moment in time and then doing a complete 180 five minutes later

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2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I knew one guy, whenever I spoke to his father, the old man would go into a depressing diatribe about how useless the son was blah blah blah. How he wasted his life on him.  He'd get really worked up about it and go on and on.....until it was uncomfortable and embarrassing. 

Then one day I saw him sitting around with his pals, his face was all lit up and beaming, and he was telling them how great the son was..........

Apnay are frequently full of shyte like that. It's VERY common, and I don't see it in many other communities to that extent. I wonder what the reasons for our lot doing this shyte is? 

don 't worry its all there just hidden from our view , jewish , italian, spanish and greek  families are the same they just keep it on the down low for outsiders ( my friends growing up used to share the nonsense with the family bragging and we all had a good laugh)

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3 hours ago, Suchi said:

Documented History shows that there was no Caste in India until the Brits went around the country making sure everyone had a caste though many did not. I have shared this before.  So it has everything to do with them. It's yet another divide and rule tactic. The Indians had varna based on ones individual qualities that meant people could change their grouping. Further debate would probably require a separate thread. 

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the mindsets and paradigms of goray changed all manner of things with their contact with people in what is now known as India (like every single other place they colonised). Especially in terms of rigid categorisation along their duality/abrahamic informed ideas of 'religion' and caste (which they strangely often sort of loosely conceptualised along racial lines). We know brits were f**king obsessed with race, and many still are to this day. 

But still, between Sikhs, that debate about caste is one that has it's own nature, and our paradigms for it are given by our Gurus, even if right now, most of us aren't fractionally different to a conservative Hindu in their thinking in this respect (it's a still a battle to be fought). 

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Please don't normalise crimes of murder, genocide suffered by millions otherwise you're closing the doors to debate.

You're talking to the wrong guy here. I've been making noise about this very stuff for years.

 

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As the subject matter affects Indians as a whole I doubt you can isolate it as just a problem within Sikhs. 

I know, but only Sikhs are going to sort out this issue inbetween Sikhs. Hindus can't sort this issue out inbetween Sikhs, and Sikhs can't sort this issue out inbetween Hindus.  

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3 hours ago, Suchi said:

Do you have any ideas on how to defend ourselves in this scenario?

First thing is to severely disrupt their narrative, so that all will agree that it is bollocks.  

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1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

For our people, faking, lying and bragging is seen as a good thing.

Being humble is seen as foolish

Perception and self-deception is everything

It just repeatedly keeps coming back to sociopathic norms from what I'm seeing?

I've been reading up about it and studying family members with it, and this self-delusional thing we are describing keeps coming up. 

When you look at the person doing the bragging, you can blatantly see them beaming - they are getting some serious energy from the nonsense they are doing?

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don 't worry its all there just hidden from our view , jewish , italian, spanish and greek  families are the same they just keep it on the down low for outsiders ( my friends growing up used to share the nonsense with the family bragging and we all had a good laugh)

I'm sure jews do it, but I don't agree with you - our lot are 'extra' with it. I think it might be related to that 'need to please' outsiders thing we talk about?? 

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