How a great amritdhari became a bit mayadhari in his last years

[shastarSingh]

12 minutes ago, S1ngh said:

I buy/sell properties and do investments in real estate here and there. I took Amrit close to 20 years ago when i was a student and was active in SSA and sikh camps. In my life,  i recently had a realization that i am leading my life wrong way (i still do) and now gradually getting rid of unnecessary Moh/Maya stuff to lead a more modest and simple life. It is not overnight thinking but takes time. Now, don't get me wrong, i am not selling my properties and other to become a sadhu. Our guru jee didn't taught that. He taught us to do well but also vand shakna. I will continue to expand but controlling the urges of other stuff and more focusing on helping others as much as i can. Not boosting but my experience when i read this topic. 

Veerji

Nothing wrong in buying and selling stuff.

This Singh was a rich businessman.

His children started taking care of the business. He was totally free and did very good bhagti but suddenly when he was about 70, he got himself busy in buying/selling plots to make more assets for his family.

Respect all gursikhs but only Guru Sahib is perfect.

Gursikhs can make mistakes.

Gursikhs can fall down due to haumai

Gursikhs can come under the influence of moh/Maya

A wise gursikh is one who remains humble till the end of his life.

[shastarSingh]

13 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

It's obvious now, some people had different practices/maryadas. Just because your jatha/samapdaya doesn't do certain things, doesn't mean that all Sikhs in the past were doing the same as yours. It's like jhatka and shaheedi degh, just because your jatha doesn't do it (which is fair enough) it doesn't mean no respectable puratan Sikhs in the past did it. You can even maybe say the same to explain slight differences in nitnem banis even?

 

Even if u provide solid evidence, people belonging to a group are not willing to change their stance.

They feel that founder or leader of their group was God and he cannot make an error.

[Jacfsing2]

4 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

Even if u provide solid evidence, people belonging to a group are not willing to change their stance.

They feel that founder or leader of their group was God and he cannot make an error.

Vaheguru doesn’t take birth or death, (Guru Sahib is the only exception). 

[ipledgeblue]

17 hours ago, S1ngh said:

I buy/sell properties and do investments in real estate here and there. I took Amrit close to 20 years ago when i was a student and was active in SSA and sikh camps. 

What is SSA?

[MisterrSingh]

20 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

 Why can't they be more grounded? It's like they get over excited easily?  

Low-IQ and/or undeveloped or terribly developed psyches (akin to growing children) even in biologically adult bodies.

[Jacfsing2]

17 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Low-IQ and/or undeveloped or terribly developed psyches (akin to growing children) even in biologically adult bodies.

I think people in general are growing up slower these days than in the past. 

[californiasardar1]

Human beings are disappointing.

I think that Sikhs have too much of a tendency to put others on a pedestal. Everyone wants to have somebody to look up to.

The way I see it, there is a reason that we do not have a Guru in human form. We are being trusted to think for ourselves. We should stop looking outward and look inward.

[MisterrSingh]

On 12/24/2021 at 1:24 PM, Jacfsing2 said:

I think people in general are growing up slower these days than in the past. 

Reasons?

[Jacfsing2]

1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

Reasons?

I think the biggest reason is social media keeping everyone's world much smaller, and prevents them from knowing the reality of things.

[MisterrSingh]

42 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

I think the biggest reason is social media keeping everyone's world much smaller, and prevents them from knowing the reality of things.

You could argue the opposite quite easily, i.e. young children are being exposed to certain of life's realities earlier than they would've otherwise due to access to the internet. A premature loss of innocence, maybe.