Bhangra isn't a Panjabi folk dance

[5aaban]

On 8/22/2022 at 7:28 PM, dallysingh101 said:

Great find! 

Explains why I didn't see any bhangra growing up until I was a young teenager and the bhangra scene 'blew up' in the UK, partly as a haven from widespread racism and the exclusion of brown folks.  But as expressed in the above, I did routinely see the women do giddah and boliyan at private wedding celebrations though.  

As I recall, before the late 80s, celebrating Sikh marriages (maybe from a Tarkhan perspective?) used to be quite sombre affairs for the men, who'd be sitting separately, usually in another room, with maybe a few of them discreetly drinking - there was no bhangra. And there were a few Jut 'uncles' at these events too. I didn't see any of them prancing about. The whole demeanour of blokes back then wasn't excessively exuberant and fudhoo like today.

Then about this time (whether incidentally or not, some of our people began to dominate the booze tekha industry, with both off licenses and warehouses and inter-continental smuggling), this (to me), new boisterous, boozed up, partying jamboree style of wedding celebration emerged. (It emerged in parallel to the growth of 'bhangra bands' like Alaap, Chirag Pehchaan and Heera). I know some of the readers will be butt hurt from me saying this, but a particular jaat would explicitly say 'this is how we do things' as a marker of differentiation  (take a wild guess who......). At that young age, it seemed fun and exciting to me, the way I'd grown up seeing weddings celebrated seemed dry and boring in comparison. Fast forward a few decades - this way of celebrating had become a norm in the wider community. Mainly because I think our lot have that weird complex of not wanting to feel left out and trying to keep up or upstage each other, most especially at weddings.   That reserve I saw older apnay blokes having seems like a a dream now.  

To me, it's gone from being a relatively harmless and fun way of privately celebrating - into some jaloose, public exhibitionism by apnay and apneean. The UK is probably responsible for starting the trend, but as we can see from Canada right now - it could get much worse here. It needs to be checked for a variety of reasons - not least of all because it puts females on platters for predators. 

Also, I might as well add this here now, the other week, I had to pass through a late night card game, I was there for a few minutes and the majority of people there were from 'across the border'. What I saw was that they had scantily clad Bollywood dancing b1tches doing their routines on a big screen in the room while playing. We don't want to go down this route.   

 

 

Our elders discouraged Bhangra too, I never saw them partaking in it. They thought very poorly of Bhangra-classes and people who took part in it. 

Personally, weddings started getting out of hand in the past decade for us due to people imitating big fat movie-type parties with performances. Prior to that everything was more simple, including clothing/appearances and venues. I do see Gidha done but its private in female-only events. Even today, sometimes men and women sit seperate at parties. 

I've noticed Panjabis/Sikhs who migrated from west Panjab and Doabi's are more likely to be involved in Bhangra activities compared to others. Which might explain your experiences in the UK surrounding Bhangra. 

 

[5aaban]

20 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

As I recall, before the late 80s, celebrating Sikh marriages (maybe from a Tarkhan perspective?) used to be quite sombre affairs for the men, who'd be sitting separately, usually in another room, with maybe a few of them discreetly drinking - there was no bhangra.

Also, marriages in Panjab were quite simple too until NRI's (first in Doaba area) started the extravagance culture. This gradually caught on in other areas and now marriages leave people bankrupt in Panjab!  

I also heard some richer people in Panjab are starting to conduct funeral rituals in big venues.(traditionally, a sweet food was made at home and distributed if someone died, now some people have taken this to party venues) 

[dallysingh101]

On 8/21/2022 at 12:20 PM, 5aaban said:

Origins of Bhangra culture from "East of Indus" by Gurnam Singh Sidhu Brard (the author was born in 1930, Patiala state). This is how Bhangra made its way into Panjabi culture. 

Do you have an online link to the full book? 

[5aaban]

1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

Do you have an online link to the full book? 

No I lost the website.  

[Premi5]

On 8/22/2022 at 5:07 PM, 5aaban said:

Also, marriages in Panjab were quite simple too until NRI's (first in Doaba area) started the extravagance culture. This gradually caught on in other areas and now marriages leave people bankrupt in Panjab!  

I also heard some richer people in Panjab are starting to conduct funeral rituals in big venues.(traditionally, a sweet food was made at home and distributed if someone died, now some people have taken this to party venues) 

https://www.desiblitz.com/content/lavish-cars-grace-soho-road-for-pre-wedding-procession

@dallysingh101....

Lavish Cars grace Soho Road for Pre-Wedding Procession

 

Birmingham’s Soho Road turned into a supercar showcase as several luxury cars graced the road as part of a pre-wedding party procession.

 

 August 26, 2022

 

By DHIREN MANGA

 

 

their vibrant colours lit up the road and turned heads.

Birmingham’s Soho Road was filled with lavish cars as part of a pre-wedding party procession.

The busy road is home to shops and businesses but it was the setting for a luxury procession which saw a group of men riding motorbikes and leading the procession.

The unnamed men were dressed up for the occasion, sporting sherwanis in dark shades of blue and black.

They also wore matching gold jewellery around their necks.

Their motorbikes contrasted with one another. One was a scooter, another was a vintage bike and a third was a modern sports bike.

They were seen stopping on the side of the road to wait for the rest of the pre-wedding procession.

A classic jeep drove down Soho Road. It was in army green and adorned with red, orange and yellow garlands.

 

 

Several convertible Lamborghini Aventadors were also part of the procession and their vibrant colours lit up the road and turned heads.

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One was in the famous yellow that Lamborghini is known for.

Another was in a bold shade of purple while a third was in bright green.

All three stopped on the side of the road, showing off the iconic scissor doors.

Meanwhile, locals were seen stopping what they were doing to take pictures of the stunning supercars.

The extravagance continued as a Rolls-Royce Cullinan followed the supercars.

But unlike the brightly-coloured Lamborghinis, the Rolls-Royce was black.

It was a Black Badge edition, which is a more sporty version, designed with enhanced torque, power and control.

The four men later posed in front of the purple Aventador, looking proud of the fact that they had just led such a lavish pre-wedding procession.

The fleet eventually arrived at the destination. They were parked outside the destination, showcasing their grandeur.

Expensive cars are a common feature within modern Asian weddings.

Several are hired by family members and are driven in a convoy to the wedding as a way of portraying luxury.

This is one example which shows that no expense is spared to ensure that a wedding is a memorable, yet flamboyant event.

When it comes to South Asian weddings, competitiveness between families is always a huge thing.

Families are always looking to have a bigger wedding than the last person.

[dallysingh101]

14 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

https://www.desiblitz.com/content/lavish-cars-grace-soho-road-for-pre-wedding-procession

@dallysingh101....

Lavish Cars grace Soho Road for Pre-Wedding Procession

 

Birmingham’s Soho Road turned into a supercar showcase as several luxury cars graced the road as part of a pre-wedding party procession.

 

 August 26, 2022

 

By DHIREN MANGA

 

 

their vibrant colours lit up the road and turned heads.

Birmingham’s Soho Road was filled with lavish cars as part of a pre-wedding party procession.

The busy road is home to shops and businesses but it was the setting for a luxury procession which saw a group of men riding motorbikes and leading the procession.

The unnamed men were dressed up for the occasion, sporting sherwanis in dark shades of blue and black.

They also wore matching gold jewellery around their necks.

Their motorbikes contrasted with one another. One was a scooter, another was a vintage bike and a third was a modern sports bike.

They were seen stopping on the side of the road to wait for the rest of the pre-wedding procession.

A classic jeep drove down Soho Road. It was in army green and adorned with red, orange and yellow garlands.

 

 

Several convertible Lamborghini Aventadors were also part of the procession and their vibrant colours lit up the road and turned heads.

Related Reads

• 'Road to London' ~ An Ambitious Road Trip to London from India
• Indian Bride Cheats Death in Wedding Procession Crash
• Shop Worker stole £100k from Boss & spent it on Lavish Cars

 

One was in the famous yellow that Lamborghini is known for.

Another was in a bold shade of purple while a third was in bright green.

All three stopped on the side of the road, showing off the iconic scissor doors.

Meanwhile, locals were seen stopping what they were doing to take pictures of the stunning supercars.

The extravagance continued as a Rolls-Royce Cullinan followed the supercars.

But unlike the brightly-coloured Lamborghinis, the Rolls-Royce was black.

It was a Black Badge edition, which is a more sporty version, designed with enhanced torque, power and control.

The four men later posed in front of the purple Aventador, looking proud of the fact that they had just led such a lavish pre-wedding procession.

The fleet eventually arrived at the destination. They were parked outside the destination, showcasing their grandeur.

Expensive cars are a common feature within modern Asian weddings.

Several are hired by family members and are driven in a convoy to the wedding as a way of portraying luxury.

This is one example which shows that no expense is spared to ensure that a wedding is a memorable, yet flamboyant event.

When it comes to South Asian weddings, competitiveness between families is always a huge thing.

Families are always looking to have a bigger wedding than the last person.

Is this all to make up for a lack of real personality and intelligence, which plagues rural Panjab?  You can hide behind the flash motors to try and cover that up......  

 

No wonder this place was the epicentre of grooming with fudhooness like this going on. I notice they have gone out of their way to exhibit their peasant-jut necklaces too. Well at least they aren't wearing the usual gay 'colourful jut bandhur' costume. I guess we should be thankful for that maybe?   

[5aaban]

9 hours ago, Premi5 said:

https://www.desiblitz.com/content/lavish-cars-grace-soho-road-for-pre-wedding-procession

@dallysingh101....

Lavish Cars grace Soho Road for Pre-Wedding Procession

 

Birmingham’s Soho Road turned into a supercar showcase as several luxury cars graced the road as part of a pre-wedding party procession.

 

 August 26, 2022

 

By DHIREN MANGA

 

 

their vibrant colours lit up the road and turned heads.

Birmingham’s Soho Road was filled with lavish cars as part of a pre-wedding party procession.

The busy road is home to shops and businesses but it was the setting for a luxury procession which saw a group of men riding motorbikes and leading the procession.

The unnamed men were dressed up for the occasion, sporting sherwanis in dark shades of blue and black.

They also wore matching gold jewellery around their necks.

Their motorbikes contrasted with one another. One was a scooter, another was a vintage bike and a third was a modern sports bike.

They were seen stopping on the side of the road to wait for the rest of the pre-wedding procession.

A classic jeep drove down Soho Road. It was in army green and adorned with red, orange and yellow garlands.

 

 

Several convertible Lamborghini Aventadors were also part of the procession and their vibrant colours lit up the road and turned heads.

Related Reads

• 'Road to London' ~ An Ambitious Road Trip to London from India
• Indian Bride Cheats Death in Wedding Procession Crash
• Shop Worker stole £100k from Boss & spent it on Lavish Cars

 

One was in the famous yellow that Lamborghini is known for.

Another was in a bold shade of purple while a third was in bright green.

All three stopped on the side of the road, showing off the iconic scissor doors.

Meanwhile, locals were seen stopping what they were doing to take pictures of the stunning supercars.

The extravagance continued as a Rolls-Royce Cullinan followed the supercars.

But unlike the brightly-coloured Lamborghinis, the Rolls-Royce was black.

It was a Black Badge edition, which is a more sporty version, designed with enhanced torque, power and control.

The four men later posed in front of the purple Aventador, looking proud of the fact that they had just led such a lavish pre-wedding procession.

The fleet eventually arrived at the destination. They were parked outside the destination, showcasing their grandeur.

Expensive cars are a common feature within modern Asian weddings.

Several are hired by family members and are driven in a convoy to the wedding as a way of portraying luxury.

This is one example which shows that no expense is spared to ensure that a wedding is a memorable, yet flamboyant event.

When it comes to South Asian weddings, competitiveness between families is always a huge thing.

Families are always looking to have a bigger wedding than the last person.

What's the point of these cars in big Asian weddings? They're probably rented so it's a bit weird showing off something you don't even own. 

[MisterrSingh]

On one hand this is clown behaviour... but when you've got a community like Muslims on your doorstep, it doesn't hurt to remind them that there's another community around with at least a little masculine presence. It's not a perfect world but you make do with the best you've got. At least they're not walking around with umbrellas...

[PuzzledToo]

The necklace seems like the fake costume jewelry women wear at weddings, it's so ugly only a certified retard would think he looks cool in it.

[dallysingh101]

5 hours ago, PuzzledToo said:

The necklace seems like the fake costume jewelry women wear at weddings, it's so ugly only a certified retard would think he looks cool in it.

These guys have matching earrings too. Seriously......