Bhangra isn't a Panjabi folk dance

[proudkaur21]

On 8/27/2022 at 4:43 AM, 5aaban said:

What's the point of these cars in big Asian weddings? They're probably rented so it's a bit weird showing off something you don't even own. 

They don't even own them but want to rent them to show off during the weddings or for music videos. Literally low iq behaviour. Maybe they associate money with masculinity.

[proudkaur21]

On 8/22/2022 at 8:07 PM, 5aaban said:

Also, marriages in Panjab were quite simple too until NRI's (first in Doaba area) started the extravagance culture. This gradually caught on in other areas and now marriages leave people bankrupt in Panjab!  

I also heard some richer people in Panjab are starting to conduct funeral rituals in big venues.(traditionally, a sweet food was made at home and distributed if someone died, now some people have taken this to party venues) 

In Punjab everyone is trying to outdo the other in terms of show off and money. "Doesn't matter if I go bankrupt, how dare this person have a more expensive wedding than me. Now people will think I am poor and look down upon me."Same reason they feel jealousy from their own friends and relatives. What a sad society.

[dallysingh101]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11156147/Russian-cops-drag-flashy-supercar-owners-vehicles-Moscow-rally.html 

Dozens of car owners were detained by armed police and their cars impounded for checks

[S1ngh]

Putin cronies wants people to live lavish but under their rule (possibly giving cut to them). Its all propaganda that Russia is known for decades. they even managed to brainwashed our folks back in 70/80's. We still see those decade old comrade effect today; mostly in journalism/Education fields.

[dallysingh101]

2 hours ago, S1ngh said:

Putin cronies wants people to live lavish but under their rule (possibly giving cut to them). Its all propaganda that Russia is known for decades. they even managed to brainwashed our folks back in 70/80's. We still see those decade old comrade effect today; mostly in journalism/Education fields.

Gross simplification. 

[dallysingh101]

 

[Premi5]

 

[dallysingh101]

ਅਬ ਮੋਰੋ ਨਾਚਨੋ ਰਹੋ ॥
Now, my dancing is over.

 

ਨਚਿਐ ਟਪਿਐ ਭਗਤਿ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥
By dancing and jumping, devotional worship is not performed.

 

ਮਾਇਆ ਮੋਹੁ ਇਸੁ ਮਨਹਿ ਨਚਾਏ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਕਪਟੁ ਦੁਖੁ ਪਾਵਣਿਆ ॥੪॥
The love of Maya makes this mind dance, and the deceit within makes people suffer in pain. ||4||

 

ਮਾਇਆ ਕਾਰਣਿ ਪਿੜ ਬੰਧਿ ਨਾਚੈ ਦੂਜੈ ਭਾਇ ਦੁਖੁ ਪਾਵਣਿਆ ॥੬॥
For the sake of Maya, they set the stage and dance, but they are in love with duality, and they obtain only sorrow. ||6||

 

ਰੰਗਿ ਰਤਾ ਨਚੈ ਨੰਗੁ ॥
they delight in their pleasures, and dance about shamelessly.

 

ਨਚਿ ਨਚਿ ਟਪਹਿ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਦੁਖੁ ਪਾਵਹਿ ॥
they dance and dance and jump all around, but they only suffer in terrible pain

[californiasardar1]

Very interesting thread.

My father never approved of bhangra and never let any of us dance at parties when we were kids.

I once asked my grandfather if people danced at his wedding. He just looked at me like I was retarded.

[dallysingh101]

 

If we analyse this, basically it seems that Sikhs who were in a minority within muslim majority areas (west Panjab) had this dance as part of their 'culture', and given what the writer says later about eastern Panjabi Sikh attitudes towards bhangra, it suggests the western Panjabi Sikhs had picked up this practice from their muslim majority neighbours - as other Sikhs had a disdainful attitude towards blokes prancing about. Then, when the western Panjabi Sikhs moved to east Panjab as refugees after partition, they brought this 'past time' with them and it spread throughout eastern Panjab via colleges and 'culture' shows. So it has spread since then whilst the muslim originators have largely knocked the practice on the head. They definitely had the right idea in my opinion. 

Fast forward to today, it has led to these types of caricatures of apnay.........