Universe ...

[jagsinrags]

Waheguru ji ka khalsa!

Waheguru ji ki fateh!!

I havn't read anything on this thread but still was reading the following links today

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/

can we relate bani with these links ...like I have an idea of Japji Sahib pauri 21 says somethin related to planets 'n stuff

This area of science is very fascination and will take the lead in the future in evolution...so how far have we been able to interpret the bani??? Please share your knowledge ...

pull chuk mawf

Waheguru ji ka khalsa!

Waheguru ji ki fateh!!

[jagsinrags]

I havn't read anything on this thread but still was reading the following links today

I was thinking of asking in the after kalyug thread

[Getae]

Hi guys,

I think the theory that most would agree with is that the universe is like a Donut.

[Jaspaul Singh]

Guru ji talks about the big bang theory in gurbani, which is in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji.... :wub: so guess who really is the first to discover the true knowledge of the universe

[khalsa mero roop]

Can you proove this please by showing us quotes from the Guru Granth Sahib Jee.

[JagKaur]

In the Calgary Herald there was an artilce in which the headline stated: "Where NASA ends, the Sikh Bible begins"

..sorrry if its kinda off topic..but juss thought it was very interesting sidenote...

[smartsingh24]

... could you try posting it?

[sher_panjabi]

iek kvwau pswau kr qol n qulw Drn smweI]

eik kuvaao pusaao kur thol n thulaa dhurun sumaaee

He created this cosmos by His one big bang  which cannot be weighed on any scale.

kQnI bdnI bwhrw Qky sbd surq ilv lweI]

kuthunee budhunee baahuraa thukae subudh suruth liv laaee

He is indescribable and many a  man in order to reach Him has got tired by putting their consciousness into  the Word.

Vaar 7, Bhai Gurdaas Ji

bwbw gorKu jwgY ]

baabaa gorukh jaagai

O Baba, Gorakh is the Lord of the Universe; He is always awake and aware.

[color=080

088]gorKu so ijin goie auTwlI krqy bwr n lwgY ]1] rhwau ][/color]

gorukh so jin goe outhaalee kuruthae baar n laagai

He alone is Gorakh, who sustains the earth; He created it in an instant. ||1||Pause||

pwxI pRwx pvix bMiD rwKy cMdu sUrju muiK dIey ]

paanee praan puvan bundh raakhae chundh sooruj mukh dheeeae

Binding together water and air, He infused the breath of life into the body, and made the lamps of the sun and the moon.

mrx jIvx kau DrqI dInI eyqy gux ivsry ]2]

murun jeevun ko dhuruthee dheenee eaethae gun visurae

To die and to live, He gave us the earth, but we have forgotten these blessings. ||2||

Ang 877

[Khalsa4ever]

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

Once again (yay!) I post one of my favorite shabads:

mwrU mhlw 1 ]

maaroo mehalaa 1 ||

Maaroo, First Mehl:

Arbd nrbd DuMDUkwrw ]

arabadh narabadh dhhu(n)dhhookaaraa ||

For endless eons, there was only utter darkness.

Drix n ggnw hukmu Apwrw ]

dhharan n gaganaa hukam apaaraa ||

There was no earth or sky; there was only the infinite Command of His Hukam.

nw idnu rYin n cMdu n sUrju suMn smwiD lgwiedw ]1]

naa dhin rain n cha(n)dh n sooraj

su(n)n samaadhh lagaaeidhaa ||1||

There was no day or night, no moon or sun; God sat in primal, profound Samaadhi. ||1||

KwxI n bwxI paux n pwxI ]

khaanee n baanee poun n paanee ||

There were no sources of creation or powers of speech, no air or water.

Epiq Kpiq n Awvx jwxI ]

oupath khapath n aavan jaanee ||

There was no creation or destruction, no coming or going.

KMf pqwl spq nhI swgr ndI n nIru vhwiedw ]2]

kha(n)dd pathaal sapath nehee saagar nadhee n neer vehaaeidhaa ||2||

There were no continents, nether regions, seven seas, rivers or flowing water. ||2||

nw qid surgu mCu pieAwlw ]

naa thadh surag mashh paeiaalaa ||

There were no heavenly realms, earth or nether regions of the underworld.

dojku iBsqu nhI KY kwlw ]

dhojak bhisath nehee khai kaalaa |

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There was no heaven or hell, no death or time.

nrku surgu nhI jMmxu mrxw nw ko Awie n jwiedw ]3]

narak surag nehee ja(n)man maranaa naa ko aae n jaaeidhaa ||3||

There was no hell or heaven, no birth or death, no coming or going in reincarnation. ||3||

bRhmw ibsnu mhysu n koeI ]

brehamaa bisan mehaes n koee ||

There was no Brahma, Vishnu or Shiva.

Avru n dIsY eyko soeI ]

avar n dheesai eaeko soee ||

No one was seen, except the One Lord.

nwir purKu nhI jwiq n jnmw nw ko duKu suKu pwiedw ]4]

naar purakh nehee jaath n janamaa naa ko dhukh sukh paaeidhaa ||4||

There was no female or male, no social class or caste of birth; no one experienced pain or pleasure. ||4||

nw qid jqI sqI bnvwsI ]

naa thadh jathee sathee banavaasee ||

[color=

080088]There were no people of celibacy or charity; no one lived in the forests.[/color]

nw qid isD swiDk suKvwsI ][/color]

naa thadh sidhh saadhhik sukhavaasee ||

There were no Siddhas or seekers, no one living in peace.

jogI jMgm ByKu n koeI nw ko nwQu khwiedw ]5]

jogee ja(n)gam bhaekh n koee naa ko naathh kehaaeidhaa ||5||

There were no Yogis, no wandering pilgrims, no religious robes; no one called himself the master. ||5||

jp qp sMjm nw bRq pUjw ]

jap thap sa(n)jam naa brath poojaa ||

There was no chanting or meditation, no self-discipline, fasting or worship.

nw ko AwiK vKwxY dUjw ]

naa ko aakh vakhaanai dhoojaa ||

No one spoke or talked in duality.

Awpy Awip aupwie ivgsY Awpy kImiq pwiedw ]6]

aapae aap oupaae vigasai aapae keemath paaeidhaa ||6||

He created Himself, and rejoiced;

He evaluates Himself. ||6||

nw suic sMjmu qulsI mwlw ]

naa such sa(n)jam thulasee maalaa ||

There was no purification, no self-restraint, no malas of basil seeds.

gopI kwnu n gaU guoAwlw ]

gopee kaan n goo guoaalaa ||

There were no Gopis, no Krishna, no cows or cowherds.

qMqu mMqu pwKMfu n koeI nw ko vMsu vjwiedw ]7]

tha(n)th ma(n)th paakha(n)dd n koee naa ko va(n)s vajaaeidhaa ||7||

There were no tantras, no mantras and no hypocrisy; no one played the flute. ||7||

krm Drm nhI mwieAw mwKI ]

karam dhharam nehee maaeiaa maakhee ||

There was no karma, no Dharma, no buzzing fly of Maya.

jwiq jnmu nhI dIsY AwKI ]

jaath janam nehee dheesai aakhee ||

Social class and birth were not seen with any eyes.

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mamathaa jaal kaal nehee maathhai naa ko kisai dhhiaaeidhaa ||8||

There was no noose of attachment, no death inscribed upon the forehead; no one meditated on anything. ||8||

inMdu ibMdu nhI jIau n ijMdo ]

ni(n)dh bi(n)dh nehee jeeo n ji(n)dho ||

There was no slander, no seed, no soul and no life.

nw qid gorKu nw mwiCMdo ]

naa thadh gorakh naa maashhi(n)dho ||

There was no Gorakh and no Maachhindra.

nw qid igAwnu iDAwnu kul Epiq nw ko gxq gxwiedw ]9]

naa thadh giaan dhhiaan kul oupath naa ko ganath ganaaeidhaa ||9||

There was no spiritual wisdom or meditation, no ancestry or creation, no reckoning of accounts. ||9||

vrn ByK nhI bRhmx KqRI ]

varan bhaekh nehee brehaman khathree ||

There were no castes or social classes, no religious robes, no Brahmin or Kh'shaatriya.

dyau n dyhurw gaU gwieqRI ]

dhaeo n dhaehuraa goo gaaeithree ||

There were no demi-gods or temples, no cows or Gaayatri prayer.

hom jg nhI qIriQ nwvxu nw ko pUjw lwiedw ]10]

hom jag nehee theerathh naavan naa ko poojaa laaeidhaa ||10||

There were no burnt offerings, no ceremonial feasts, no cleansing rituals at sacred shrines of pilgrimage; no one worshipped in adoration. ||10||

nw ko mulw nw ko kwjI ]

naa ko mulaa naa ko kaajee ||

There was no Mullah, there was no Qazi.

nw ko syKu mswieku hwjI ]

naa ko saekh masaaeik haajee ||

There was no Shaykh, or pilgrims to Mecca.

reIAiq rwau n haumY dunIAw nw ko khxu khwiedw ]11]

reeath raao n houmai dhuneeaa naa ko kehan kehaaeidhaa ||11||

There was no king or subjects, and no worldly egotism; no one spoke of himself. ||11||

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Bwau n BgqI nw isv skqI ]

bhaao n bhagathee naa siv sakathee ||

There was no love or devotion, no Shiva or Shakti - no energy or matter.

swjnu mIqu ibMdu nhI rkqI ]

saajan meeth bi(n)dh nehee rakathee ||

There were no friends or companions, no semen or blood.

Awpy swhu Awpy vxjwrw swcy eyho Bwiedw ]12]

aapae saahu aapae vanajaaraa saachae eaeho bhaaeidhaa ||12||

He Himself is the banker, and He Himself is the merchant. Such is the Pleasure of the Will of the True Lord. ||12||

byd kqyb n isMimRiq swsq ]

baedh kathaeb n si(n)mrith saasath ||

There were no Vedas, Korans or Bibles, no Simritees or Shaastras.

pwT purwx audY nhI Awsq ]

paat(h) puraan oudhai nehee aasath ||

There was no recitation of the Puraanas, no sunrise or sunset.

khqw bkqw Awip Agocru Awpy AlKu lKwiedw ]13]

kehathaa bakathaa aap agochar aapae alakh lakhaaeidhaa ||13||

The Unfathomable Lord Himself was the speaker and the preacher; the unseen Lord Himself saw everything. ||13||

jw iqsu Bwxw qw jgqu aupwieAw ]

jaa this bhaanaa thaa jagath oupaaeiaa ||

When He so willed, He created the world.

bwJu klw Awfwxu rhwieAw ]

baajh kalaa aaddaan rehaaeiaa ||

Without any supporting power, He sustained the universe.

bRhmw ibsnu mhysu aupwey mwieAw mohu vDwiedw ]14]

brehamaa bisan mehaes oupaaeae maaeiaa mohu vadhhaaeidhaa ||14||

He created Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva; He fostered enticement and attachment to Maya. ||14||

ivrly kau guir sbdu suxwieAw ]

viralae ko gur sabadh sunaaeiaa ||

How rare is that person who listens to the Word of the Guru's Shabad.

[color=

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kar kar dhaekhai hukam sabaaeiaa ||

He created the creation, and watches over it; the Hukam of His Command is over all.

KMf bRhmMf pwqwl ArMBy gupqhu prgtI Awiedw ]15]

kha(n)dd brehama(n)dd paathaal ara(n)bhae gupathahu paragattee aaeidhaa ||15||

He formed the planets, solar systems and nether regions, and brought what was hidden to manifestation. ||15||

qw kw AMqu n jwxY koeI ]

thaa kaa a(n)th n jaanai koee ||

No one knows His limits.

pUry gur qy soJI hoeI ]

poorae gur thae sojhee hoee ||

This understanding comes from the Perfect Guru.

nwnk swic rqy ibsmwdI ibsm Bey gux gwiedw ]16]3]15]

naanak saach rathae bisamaadhee bisam bheae gun gaaeidhaa ||16||3||15||

O Nanak, those who are attuned to the Truth are wonderstruck; singing His Glorious Praises, they are filled w

ith wonder. ||16||3||15||

As well, if you go to this ang, and read from the Guru Granth Sahib, over the next few pages there are descriptions about Waheguroo creating the "universe".

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

[Khalsa4ever]

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

hukmy AwieAw hukim smwieAw ]

hukamae aaeiaa hukam samaaeiaa ||

By His Command we come, and by His command we merge into Him again.

hukmy dIsY jgqu aupwieAw ]

hukamae dheesai jagath oupaaeiaa ||

By His Command, the world was formed.

hukmy surgu mCu pieAwlw hukmy klw rhwiedw ]10]

hukamae surag mashh paeiaalaa hukamae kalaa rehaaeidhaa ||10||

By His Command, the heavens, this world and the nether regions were created; by His Command, His Power supports them. ||10||

hukmy DrqI Dau

l isir BwrM ]

hukamae dhharathee dhhoul sir bhaara(n) ||

The Hukam of His Command is the mythical bull which supports the burden of the earth on its head.

hukmy paux pwxI gYxwrM ]

hukamae poun paanee gainaara(n) ||

By His Hukam, air, water and fire came into being.

hukmy isv skqI Gir vwsw hukmy Kyl Kylwiedw ]11]

hukamae siv sakathee ghar vaasaa hukamae khael khaelaaeidhaa ||11||

By His Hukam, one dwells in the house of matter and energy - Shiva and Shakti. By His Hukam, He plays His plays. ||11||

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!