India Or Pakistan In The Cricket

[Ranjeet01]

One part of Surrey that has trailer park trash I believe (in Whalley).

Has anyone watched "The Trailer Park Boys", it's a Canadian comedy around the drug dealing exploits of some Trailer Park Boys and they live in Nova Scotia (opposite end of Canada)

[SheikhYoBooty]

You're obviously incapable of reading as well as being stupid and pathetic enough

Hahaha you do make me laugh with the odd entertaining insult.

First we established that Sikhs are not the most hated community in Canada as you wrongly claimed.

Then we established that Surrey is not a poor Sikh ghetto with gun toting apnian high on meth robbin bazurgs at random lol ... actually its overtaking Vancouver + has grown 3 times in population size in the last 30 years.

Surrey does have pockets of social problems. True there are a minority of white trash, Vietnamese, Muslim gangbangers. And sure there are some Jatt gangbangers that all grew up in 3,000 sq/ft detached houses that have grown up watching Scarface. The vast majority of the Sikhs in Surrey are good hardworking people. 3 of Surrey's four MP's are Sikh out of a parliament of 308 seats in Ottawa. The whole of the UK sadly only has 1 Sikh MP in total.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Grewal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasbir_Sandhu

But LuckySingh99 is probably best placed to educate u that Surrey or metro Vancouver is not a poor crime ridden drug infested ghetto. In fact it is the strongest area for Sikhs in the Diaspora. Once the caste subculture can be destroyed and people come back to Sikhi the future is bright. In Surrey Sikhs are 20% of the population and have the influence to match. In London Sikhs are 1%. In Surrey Sikhs massively outnumber Muslims. The Muslim girls in BC are proud to be with Sikh guys and are not afraid to marry Sikhs. London has more than 1million Muslims. Nuff said.

Disliking the evil ideology of fascism does not make anybody a racist. I am the same ethnicity as most Pakistani's.

The difference between me and you is that I support Sikhi and Sikhs.

But you Jagsaw spend your time concentrating on defending pedophiles, groomers, Islam + Pakistan.

[Hammertime007]

Multiculturalism and tund-e don't go together

[JagsawSingh]

Sheikhyerbooty, are you arguing with yourself again ?

I seriously think you're going mad. You're talking about gangsters, not me. You're talking about drugs, not me. You're talking about crime, not me. And yet in post after post you're countering imaginary points that you yourself are bring up :omg: This is so silly one couldn't possibly make it up.

My points are simple and twofold. My first point, which you seem to revel in ignoring, is that I myself live in a ghetto because I live in Southall and, other than our own people, no other person of substance such as high flyers, artists, hipsters etc would ever want to live in.

The exact same with Surrey. It is not my fault that you don't know what the rest of Canada thinks of Surrey...i.e what it's stereotype is.

But it doesn't matter does it ? Because you seem to be on some mad schizophrenic argument with yourself about gangsters, drugs and crime :giggle:

[ghettosikh]

jagsaw bro surreys reputation has nothing to do with the large population of sikhs in it. it has a rep because of WHITE junkies. and WHITE drug dealers and criminals. And most people outside of BC have no clue what surrey is. If you go to the white areas you will find hipsters and what not a lot of gentrification going on there.However 10- 20 years ago maybe not so much If you wanna hear about canadian cities that are known for crime and gangs well edmonton a city called deadmonton by the media was murder capital of canada, winnipeg is a city with ghettos and gang violence comparable to the usa this is something you wont see in the uk, and even where iam it is known as peaceful but we had 3 shootings in one day couple days ago which left 2 men dead so what im trying to say is we dont have time for surrey for it to have any significant rep. when someone says surrey to me in my brain i think smaller less interesting version of vancouver thats all.

[JagsawSingh]

jagsaw bro surreys reputation has nothing to do with the large population of sikhs in it.

And who exactly said it has ? :nono: I'm pretty sure nobody here has ever made that point ? Is the 'sheikhyerboot disease', i.e countering imaginary points that don't exist now catching ?

[SheikhYoBooty]

PEDOPHILES + PAKISTAN SUPPORTER JAGSAW KHAN QUOTES

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Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015

what the reputation is of 'Surrey' for example. Its reputation, throughout the whole of Canada, is of crime, social problems, drugs etc and remember it is the place in the western world with the highest concentration of Sikhs...i.e the Sikh ghetto.

Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015

And Canada is a good example of all the complaints you're making on this thread because don't forget, in Canada it is the Sikhs who are the most hated community in the nation.

Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015

It is Sikhs, not muslims, that wider white society blames for the same thing you're blaming muslims in the UK for...i.e lack of integration, failure of multiculturalism, ghettos, drugs, gangs, murder etc.

Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015

Sikhs are the most hated community in the whole of Canada.

Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015

Sikh murders, shootings, home invasions, drugs, gangs have, over the last decade as a whole, been on Columbian levels in terms of violence.

Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015

In contrast, UK Muslims of the same thing have been on the level of a small peaceful country town in Olkaholma.

Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015

Let me tell you something about Surrey for example. In Surrey, there have even been cases of some of our old bajurgs been violently mugged on the streets at nights by our own apnian kurian high on meths and/or heroin.

Jagsaw Said: 23 February 2015

See that people ? :stupidme:

Jagsaw Said: 23 February 2015

A not very bright and clearly intellectualy vulnerable individual (ghettosikh) sitting thousands of mles away in Canada actually gets his opinions and 'facts' about a foreign nation from bigots. Not being clever enough to decypher the intentions of those who give their version of their 'reality' in the UK, the vulnerable youngster (ghettosikh) reading it from Canada takes it as gospel. :surrender:

Jagsaw Said: 23 February 2015

Over the internet you've pretended you're someone else (a Sikh...with Sikh values of tolerance and respect) whilst feeding an intellectualy immature youngster in another country (ghettosikh) lies about Muslims in the UK. He, being young an' all, is not able to see how he is being groomed by members and supporters of groups akin to the Ku Klux Klan. Therefore, not yet knowing his lefts from his right, he falls for evrything hook line and sinker.

Jagsaw Said: 23 February 2015

I'll tell you what, if this was a plan by some of you UK based facists to expose the workings of internet peado grooming than I have to salute you guys for your masterplan. It was brilliant.

Jagsaw Said: 24 February 2015

There is only one place in London where yu'd have to walk a fair mile before you see a white man and that place is our own 'Sikh' ghetto: Southall.

Jagsaw Said: 24 February 2015

See this is where you and your friends are going wrong when you're showing photos of suburban houses in Surrey. I said before, you don't define ghetto in terms of old looking and new looking. I mean of course Surrey, where the roads as well as houses were built in the 1970's onwards is going to appear more modern than London where the roads and houses are medieval. But you also have to remember that visually Surrey looks ... new and spacious with large houses.

Jagsaw Said: 24 February 2015

A 'Ghetto' is where one particular community has concentrated itself in and where no others, such as whites wish to be in.

Jagsaw Said: 24 February 2015

Surrey is a ghetto

Jagsaw Said: 24 February 2015

So, as you can see, it is normally we Sikhs aroud the world who live in ghettos, as we tend to concentrate in places that no hipster, artist or yuppie would ever be seen dead in.

Jagsaw Said: 24 February 2015

What you didn't understand, or perhaps bother to read, from my last message is that ... the Sikh in Surrey live in a ghetto because they are both places that no one other than we Sikhs wish to live in

Ghetto (noun)

a section of a city, especially a thickly populated slum area, inhabited predominantly by members of an ethnic or other minority group, often as a result of social or economic restrictions, pressures, or hardships.

Slum (noun)

a thickly populated, run-down, squalid part of a city, inhabited by poor people.

Sorry Jagsaw but all of your above lies have been exposed as false.

You make things up as you go along.

First u got exposed on claiming that Sikhs are the most hated community in Canada.

Then it was Sikhs have made Surrey into a violent underclass ghetto with your Jatti's supposedly high on meth + heroin violently jackin poor old bazurgs as they cross the street.

Now all u got left is that ur claiming no hipster wants to live alongside Sikhs.

Do we Sikhs even give a damn about that? The answer is NO!

And no this post isn't part of a global Muslim pedophile ring to groom ghettosikh in Calgary.

The only pedophile that has been exposed on this website is Prophet Muhammad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTeAB4l0KCM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj24Oz1MuCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNCz9MXmcsw

Muhammad: A Pedophile

Muhammad “married” Aisha when she was six years old.

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old. Muslim 8. 3310

Narrated 'Aisha:that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). Bukhari 7. 62. 64

Narrated 'Aisha:that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)' Bukhari 7. 62. 65

Narrated 'Ursa:The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death). Bukhari 7. 62. 88

Arab year is lunar, which is shorter than solar year. In solar years, Aisha was 8 years 9 months old when Muhammad consummated his marriage with her. Consummate? This is a nice way to say raped her. According to Muslims, a woman must consent to her marriage or the marriage is null. How can a 6-years old child consent to her marriage? Without a consent, how can we call this relationship between a 51 years old man and a 6-years old child marriage?

Some Muslims claim that it was Abu Bakr who approached Muhammad asking him to marry his daughter. This is not true.

The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry." Bukhari 7.62.18

Even though Abu Bakr was fool enough to let Muhammad have sex with his little daughter, that marriage was invalid, because the only person who should have given consent was a minor. Aisha was unaware of what was going on and was surprised when Muhammad pulled down his pants and invited her to sit on his lap.

She Narrated:

When the Prophet married me, my mother came to me and made me enter the house (of the Prophet) and nothing surprised me but the coming of Allah's Apostle to me in the forenoon. Bukhari 7. 62. 90

Aisha was playing with dolls like any other 8 year old child would do. She was not ready for marriage and had no understanding of it.

Narrated 'Aisha:
I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Bukhari 8. 73.151

Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. Bukhari 5.234

Having sexual feelings for small children is called pedophilia. According to Ayatollah Montazeri, the most revered Shiite cleric of Iran , the “marriage” of Muhammad and Aisha was a political maneuver to placate the enemies of Islam. He wrote: The reason for this marriage was that the Prophet was under the intense pressure by his enemies like Abu Lahab and Abu Jahl and was completely dependant of the protection of other tribes. Abu Bakr had a lot of tribal influence. And rejecting his offer, in those conditions, for the Prophet was not prudent. In reality this marriage was symbolic and not to satisfy his sexual instinct, because, as a rule a 53-year-old man cannot have sexual feelings for a 9-year-old girl.

This is nonsense. Abu Bakr was already a devout follower of Muhammad and his confidant. Abu Lahab and Abul Hakam (whom Muhammad derogatorily called Abu Jahl, father of ignorance) had nothing to do with Abu Bakr. How can having sex with a child placate one's enemies? Assuming this ridiculous excuse is true, what about Aisha? Was she only a pawn for Muhammad’s political maneuvers?

In one thing the Grand Ayatollah is right. As a rule a 53-year-old man cannot have sexual feelings for a 9-year-old girl, unless he is a pedophile.

The Islamocritic scholar, Abul Kasem, has demonstrated that in Islam there is actually no age limit for marrying a child. He found the following hadith which shows a Muslim man can marry an infant. However should one of his adult wives suckle that infant both wives become haram to him.

Case of one of two wives suckling the other-If a man marry an infant and an adult and the latter should give milk to the former, both wives become prohibited with respect to that man [their husband], because if they were to continue united in marriage to him, it would imply the propriety of joint cohabitation with the foster-mother and her foster-daughter, which is prohibited, in the same manner as joint cohabitation with a natural mother and daughter-It is to be observed on this occasion, that if the husband should not have had carnal connexion with the adult wife, she is not entitled to any dower whatever, because the separation has proceeded from her, before consummation :-but the infant has a claim to her half dower. [Hedaya Vol. I Book III, page 71 (Ref. 6)]

Abul Kasem also quoted the story of Umar marrying a child just four or five years old.

Umme Kulthum was 4 or 5 years old when Caliph Umar married her. This child was his most favourite wife (just like prophet Mohammad).

There is a great controversy about the identity of this child bride of Umar. Many scholars claim that she was the daughter of Ali and Fatima. Others say that Umme Kulthum was the posthumous daughter of Abu Bakar and Habiba. Abu Bakar died (13 A.H.) a few months before Umme Kulthum was born. She was the half sister of Aisha. So, Umar asked Aisha for the hand of Umme Kulthum when she (Umme Kulthum) was only 4 - 5 years old. Aisha agreed and Umar and Umme Kulthum got married.

According to Abul Kasem’s calculations, Umar was 56 years old when he married this little girl. Why would he not wait for Umme Kulthum to reach the age of nine? Shouldn’t Umar follow the sunna (example) of his prophet? The answer is that Muhammad did not set any limits for child marriage. Ummar must have remembered when Muhammad expressed his desire to marry a crawling baby before death overtook him. This story is reported by Ibn Ishac, the most authentic biographer of Muhammad. Most other biographies are based on this monumental work of Ibn Ishak/Ibn Hisham

(Suhayli, ii.79: In the riwaya of Yunus I.I recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu’l-Fadl) when she was baby crawling before him and said, ‘If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.’ But he died before she grew up and Sufyan b. al-Aswad b. Abdu’l-Asad al-Makhzumi married her and she bore him Rizq and Lubaba….(Ref.3, page 311)

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[Hammertime007]

Jagsaws agenda is to cover up tundeh grooming by talking bout gangsters in canada

[luckysingh99]

I have no idea which surrey jagsaw is talking about.

There is no ghetto anywhere.

There are no public housing 'projects' like you have in US and neither are there any council estate or high risers like you have all over UK !

Any welfare funded families and communities are integrated amongst the rest of us.

[JagsawSingh]

Jagsaws agenda is to cover up tundeh grooming by talking bout gangsters in canada

You do realise, don't you, that it is you and your facist Party friend who have been 'talking about gangsters' whilst I've just spent my last 3 or 4 messages asking why you're talking about 'gangsters and their crime' when I'm talking about a ghetto being defined as a place where, apart from that one community, no other well to do'ers, hipsters etc would ever want to live in even it was the last place on earth ?

You do realise that don't you ?

But......and this is a good example of the power of suggestion.....once you keep stating something long enough others start to believe it as fact. Just look at the message above this one. Luckysingh has not read a single one of my posts so has no inkling of the reasoning I gave previously. Yours and sheikhyerbooty's posts have, through the power of suggestion, implanted ideas about what I said into luckysingh's mind. This is the exact same power of suggestion you and your facist ilk in UKIP and EDL use to demonise immigrants and especially muslims in the UK. None of which, however, change what I have said before and bear in mind this whole discussion took this course as a counter to your absurd examples of what you called 'ghettos' in London. A ghetto is not defined in poverty or crime. I live in a ghetto (Southall) because although Sikhs desire to live here, no other people of standard would ever want to. It is the exact same story with Surrey, and if you knew what Surrey's reputation is among Canadians as a whole (a city for trailer park trash) you would understand this.