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One for his saura and his saala if he has one. One for his wife:

It was and always has been those who are alpha that followed that line of work or gang culture. I have never seen anyone who wears skinny jeans and speaks the Queens English engage in that lifestyle. I have also never seen a Punjabi Shaheri Bhapa, Kenyan Tharkhan, Delhi and Bombay da Bhapa stand strong with any Morcha for Sikhi or Punjab. Note that I did not mention Punjabi Tharkhan Sikhs or Majbi Sikhs, because they have given there fair share of heads. It’s your struggles and the people you look up to that make you Alpha not the latter that follows ie mindless violence and the crime. Sometimes if channelled for the right reasons this can be a positive.

I'm not amritdhari yet but how are you supposed to avoid products with alcohol in them? what about tooth paste? deodorant? cologne? mouth wash etc ? Cake and chocolate with alcohol in it tastes nice.

I want to thank you actually. I always feel too wretched to be worthy of being called a Sikh. Then you post and I feel totally different.

What language are we speaking? Who partitioned your country, stole its Raj, its Ithias, still has it lol, and did the same thing the whole world over? Who is infamous for leading the world in stabbings per capita period since always? And has your sorry self not only speaking their language but their ..agenda driven garbage?

That was me that downvoted you. I won't wait until I think you're not looking, pick something unoffensive and old, and then scurry off as soon as you notice. It was me. I downvoted you for being ignorant and a coward and probably a straw man account. Enjoy. The wasps hold the stabbing record in brittain period. From today, all the way back since they raped and pillaged their way in. And I've proved it several times already on this site with their own numbers.

Maybe because Jats are the only remaining group who are still actively alpha amongst the Sikh community. We could also ask why are Jats the only group to aggressively take on Delhi in the protests. You can’t knock a group of people who still possess the hot blood needed to take risks.

Punjabi parents are clowns. The oppressive old-school types retard their offspring in ways that hamper their development in seriously grave ways. The overtly-chummy types fail to establish boundaries, ending up creating foolish monsters who have no sense of decorum.

Might be a bit off topic but I always find it weird when people try to compare religion and science, or "prove" religion with science. Christians and Muslims do it a lot, I guess it's because their religions are constantly criticised for strange stories and practices. Their religions get thrashed left right center, so Its no surprise they get back by trying to use science. Same with using science to "prove" God you can't! Its like using a toaster to make tea! Or wanting to see Lions but you go to the aquarium instead! Two completely different things with different purpose/use.

Here's another title for this thread "What or who's agenda does it serve for people to continually post race baiting hate topics on this forum?"

these missionaries r foolish and arrogant people. u provide them with as much evidence as u Can, they won't agree.

Nice episode on the authenticity of Dasam Granth, ur friend could also give also other works proving the authenticity as well.

Careful. queen's english only, post imperialization Bhenji. It's the only master-authorized lingo. You don't want to offend the priorityless . I mean why focus on something important or unoffensive? Topic of this thread should be "Why do so many Sikhs speak english?".

I agree, forgetting your own language and adopting the language of the people that destroyed your country and enslaved your people, as your main language, is basically a continuation of the slavery and the raj, but the raj is in their head this time.

The term for this is "white-knighting "

Someone who doesn't downvote some of my posts in the same topic in order to throw the suspicion on me. Probably one of our anonymous, highly intelligent and educated Redditors. ?

There are toothpaste and mouth wash without alcohol. Usually the cake and chocolate with alcohol comes from the vanilla extract and there is vanilla extract without alcohol. As for cologne and deodorant, there are alternatives as well but I wouldn't say its necessary as we don't eat or drink it. I don't think it dissolves only in alcohol. When I went to the pharmacy there was Ashwaganda without alcohol and there was also with alcohol. Try and look for alternatives - https://theherbalacademy.com/how-to-make-herbal-glycerites-tinctures-without-alcohol/

You didn't understand what I wrote. I said she was wife and mother material. A woman doesn't have to be a stunner to be a wife or a mother. I stated she was attractive ENOUGH to stir a man's passions, but not attractive to the point of distraction. Later on, I literally stated she was slightly above average.

Who is the pr1ck who is downvoting everyone?

My dad used to say that. If you want to know what the girl is like, look at the mother.

This is what I have tried to explain to the other posters here. She is like a '5' or a '6'. She is the "girl next door" that is seen as "attainable " The Punjabi kudiyan who are like an '8' would not give the brown guy the time of the day, let alone a Singh. They go straight for the well off white guy. I have female cousins like that.

Its interesting though, Pubjabis especially the older generation believe that its nature, lol. Like when aunties are talking about some female who turned out to be a s1ut, you always hear one of them mentioning something like how the dadhi also ran away with a truck driver back in the old days, lol It's the same with men. When some guy has a reputation for sleeping around etc he always gets compared to his dad if the dad was upto the same back in the days. My interpretation of this is that Punjabis, especially the middle aged lot believe that s1utty behaviour is inherited lol And! they're not that wrong a lot of the time ?

Partition happened 74 years ago. Anyone that has memories of that era is probably over 80.

Imagine having such a weak sense of your own identity as an immigrant group that you appropriate the norms, vernacular, and manner of being of another immigrant sub-culture. Besti.

I don't think he's trying to be rude Veer Ji. Saying he should terminate himself isn't necessary. It's good to hear there are many authentic Saroops. Are they all identical? If so, then there's the answer. That's what he's asking I think. If Saroops are being stolen and destroyed, then the original authenticity must be protected.

It's true though, the aunties aren't far off when they compare men/women with loose morals to their parents. A lot of the time it is true. But obviously in today's day and age it would be considered unfair, and I can see why it is unfair, but you can't deny the comparisons. The people I went to school with, the ones that ended up sleeping around etc their parents were basically doing the same when they were younger. That's why the previous generation used to say its important to look at the the ways and behaviours of the family.

It's a shame because from a purely visual perspective she was perfect wife and mother-of-your-kids material. Attractive enough to appeal to the male gaze, but not TOO attractive that she's had every guy in a 10 mile radius drooling after her since she turned 16 (thus increasing the probability that she'd be seduced in her teens). Even then, her being just a little above average, she's had Singhs killing each other to get with her, which is mental. What do the Punjabi kudiyan who look like a Kardashian get-up to?!? It doesn't bear thinking. Is it nature or nurture, though? I hope it's nurture, because if slutty behaviour is inherent, then God has deserted us. ??

I disagree with that. I've come across a lot more thirsty monay than Singhs, in fact monay are quite open about the thirst, which isn't surprising considering dating and other things are a part of mona culture. Singhs in general are more grounded. The "thirsty" ones are the ones that come from very religious families where interaction with the opposite gender is frowned upon. The minute a girl smiles at them and says hi, they think she likes them. Girls from really religious families can be a bit creepy as well, Mahil gives me those creepy vibes. She's a freak behind closed doors. Insecurity also plays a part in it aswell. Men who are confident in themselves, they don't behave like that.

Here let me put it this way. Years after being married to man, a woman who was at first too scared or emotionally insecure about something tramautizing in her past and finally shares it and the man leaves her flat? What are people gonna say about that dude?

I don't think Veer Ji used any passes for all manners of indiscretion did he? Can you list them?

Here I am giving 30years on valuable first hand experience in USA. Only a low IQ would pick the “Native” out of the conversation. Native are American Indians that’s not the main idea of the topic. What are you 5year old? Not a newbie give me a break!

You can go f**k yourself. I just speak my mind, and am not a lemming. All antiSIkh agendas, be they 'hindustani', 'britshit, dimwitted jutt caste bullshyte can ALL screw themselves - and that includes your low-IQ arse. I'm not some newbie on the scene.

<banned word filter activated> is a native white?? The descendant of some rapist cowboy?

What do you mean by 'native' here? White people? If so, you must be an id1ot of the highest order!

I think this is what it boils down to. A lot of apnay Panjabis, despite all their bullshyte, seem to have a deeply rooted inferiority complex (intergenerationally within their families) to goray. Probably stems from being descendants of sepoys in their colonial armies???

Bollocks mate. Juts have brought into this shyte more than anyone else. You can't try and obfuscate that. Even anglos records point at that. You've had a Jut controlled Panjab with Badal - the results show it all..... And I wouldn't shake in my boots - I'm not a closeted pu55y. I've never been risk averse since young.

What is your solution to this?

Gagandip Singh wasn't in a relationship. There was no "breakup." He was a desperate, thirsty guy hopelessly infatuated with a girl who had friendzoned him. Yes, she was indeed average looking. The fact that THREE singhs (not one, not two, but THREE) ruined their lives over her shows how desperate singhs are in general.

See below, bro.

I think he is referring to your wife saying you cheated her because you didn't tell her about your mental health (making herself the victim) and divorcing you (kicking you (the victim) to the curb)

Anyone know if the bani after Mahalla 10 is included in today's saroops? Some more info on Mahalla 10: https://www.sikhnet.com/news/dohra-mahalla-10

I won't speak for the guy, but from my perspective we only have to look at the example of marriages between royal houses throughout history. Did they get married solely for love? Of course not. Those unions were designed to forge and strengthen alliances for material purposes. There was hardly any consideration of physical appeal ASIDE from a breeding perspective where an attractive bride for a plain groom was considered to be essential in order to at lease increase the chance of an aesthetically pleasing heir, i.e. Diana and Charles. The key issue was producing heirs and ensuring the wealth remained (and increased) within that relatively small clique of families. This cultural obsession with "love" really only became culturally fashionable arguably in the Edwardian and Victorian era, and even then it was "pushed" as an ideal on the lowly masses. The elites were certainly never expected to follow suit, and, by and large, they haven't with a few obvious exceptions. Even their so-called love unions are far from the lucky meetings of fate they like to promote to the people. Diana was distant relation to the Windsors. I even remember reading that Kate Middleton and even Markle are somehow related to the Royal Family through their respective ancestries.

by welleducated you mean 'loosey goosey' with maryada and rehit , we are talking faith not physics/chemistry etc and for faith to be there you have to believe in the institution of Anand Karaj, in Guru ji , in sikhi as is . It is not condescending to point this out as that is the basic minimum requirement for a sikh wanting to partake of the blessing of Anand Karaj . The OP' s own parents did not marry by the frankly ridiculous manner they are suggesting , it is trying to say that western mores of 3rd wave feminism have more weight than Guru given maryada which is insulting in the highest manner . Yes if they do not want to do the right thing by sikhi maybe they would be better off having a registry marriage and knees up just like their folks want , sure it doesn't make for the best photo album , but you cannot have everything .

You live in California for goodness sake! Let me speak in a language you might understand. This is just an example: If I live in L.A where drop dead gorgeous blondes seem to grow on trees where they are like 9's and 10's and I was able to garner attraction from them. In the attractive ness stakes that would bolster my confidence so when I go to Fresno or Yuba City, the pretty girls there who would be like a 4 or a 5 at best in L.A. Hope you got the point

I've never come across any rehatvaan Sikh (Singh or Singhni) who has a problem with the Anand Karaj. It's these new-age third-wave feminist types who do... When you walk one behind the other, you're both the same physical distance from the Guru. And if you still have a problem with that, then you know who's closer to the Guru? The Granthi Singh! Wanna complain about that too?...

Creating refuges one place, then allowing some of them come drive your taxis is not civilized. Like who partitioned? So who created two nations and three plus genocides exactly? And who profited at every step of the way?

Its tragic what happened, young person with his whole life ahead of him got murdered in such a barbaric way. I remember back when it happened people were questioning why he being an amritdhari was in a relationship etc He was a young man and probably was very much in love with that crazy woman. It does sound like he was a bit obsessed but breakups do make people do weird things. She probably told him she will marry him and live happily ever after etc If your trying to be a practicing Sikh then you really should stay away from relationships, its makes you do wrong things and Sikhi no longer remains a priority. But when you're young, like they were, you get carried away with it all. Look how this guy ended simply because he made that girl his priority. She's quite an average looking bird, not sure why all these Singhs are obsessing, killing, going prison, sacrificing careers/opportunities over her! She must have that "something" Who knows, BBC or the ITV might decide to turn it into a crime drama! their trying to use as many brown/black actors as they can these days.

Clout chasers and result of too much wokeness

I have tried to read it unfortunately I can't read beyond the first line. It is really hard for me to read what Guru Sahib Ji is saying. But thanks for posting it.