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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa | Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/gurunanakgurdwara-singhsabha Guru Nanak Gurdwara Singh Sabha is the oldest Gurdwara Sahib in Preston, Lancashire, UK. Established in 1966, the Gurdwara Sahib has been a special place of learning and worship for Sikhs community and alike. Situated in the heart of the city centre and close to the university, the Gurdwara Sahib has served both the international students and the homeless community in Preston. Over the past decade the demands from the building have grown however, the community has been restricted due to costs of the project and the state of the building. During the Gurpurab's (traditional celebrations), weddings and larger events, the Sadh Sangat have to make the use of the car park (see photo) to accommodate the Langar service. The larger hall in the building cannot be used due to asbestos present in the roof and the condition of the room.. However, the issue of having an asbestos roofing has now been rectified and the new Divaan Hall (once completed) is envisaged to be two times bigger than the current one. This would allow the current Divaan Hall to be used as the Langar Hall Therefore, we are humbly requesting your donations and contributions towards the upcoming internal and upgrade work. Please forward this appeal to others in your network to help build the building a safer and more open space for worship and community gatherings. https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/gurunanakgurdwara-singhsabha If you need to find out more, you can follow the updates on this justgiving.com or on this topic on sikhsangat.com. https://www.facebook.com/prestongurdwara19a/ https://www.instagram.com/preston_gurdwara_19a/ You can also contact and visit the Gurdwara Sahib at: 19a Bow Lane, Preston, Lancashire. United Kingdom. Phone: +441772 251008. Email: gngss.bow@gmail.com

Most women are mental. What's so mental about yours?

I do see your valid point esp other kids are better than your own and drilling it in them. But these things are damaging and can take place it any community.

That’s why they call those in that profession ‘Kanjars’. Throw them a penny and they will dance to any tune.

What is wrong with you? Do you judge people because of their relationship or marital status or do you form opinions on their courage to speak what is unspeakable in Puniab. He is the champion of the cause and he may have been Patit in his appearance, but he was more Panthic than any of the Blue Turbaned Jathedars with the flowing beards. He spoke up for the rights of the Sikh Quom and the people of Punjab. He was a diamond, a breath of fresh air who was natural born leader.

and there was quite the amount of chaos in the mid 1780s that would have torn the country apart

The simple way to put it is -; The American declaration of Independence was ratified on 4th July 1776 The US constitution was ratified on June 21 1788.

I should have mentioned that this thought process is also a sign of cowardice. You buy your house first then you buy your furniture, not the other way round. When India, Pakistan and Bangladesh were formed, these answers were not demanded before the handover of power and neither have any countries been required to present a written or verbal constitution before attaining freedom. The first stage is freedom from present occupation, the second stage is to manage a peaceful transfer of power and the institutions which are in control, then a constitution is written, then finally you implement and work hard and smart to develop your country with all its institutions. We are at stage one!

Sikh numbers need to be high in Punjab, the percentage there is decreasing day by day. The percentage of Sikh population in Punjab has registered a decline from 59.9% to 57.69% (even though the total population of the community has gone up). Sikhs will soon lose majority status in Punjab too, which is the only Sikh-majority place in the world. https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/comment/punjabs-exodus-without-an-end-19414 https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/punjab/migration-may-have-led-to-decline-in-sikh-count-125038

We need a Sikh state but before talking about all the land we want and what we will conquer think of the logistics. Firstly how to create a state? Who will run it? What will the laws be? How to create an army police emergency services etc. The economics? And so many more. We should talk about these things not about should we have a state but how can we get a state and how will it work.

Khalistan will include indian states of Punjab, Himachal pradesh, Haryana after this is achieved focus should be on caputring lahore, and expanding into kashmir,

I somewhat or strongly agree with all of those except the starting with pakistani panjab part

you referring to baba santa singh?

Gurbani and learning Shastar Vidya is key. Learning about many weapons, correct way to use is also important. Tyaar bur tyaar.

Cowardice has many shapes and forms when it come down to the topic of ‘Khalistan’. Some say the whole world should be Khalistan not just Punjab. Some say Khalistan should be made in Pakistan Punjab before Indian Punjab. Some say everyone must become Khalsa before we talk about Khalistan. Some say Khalistan should only be the demand of people within Punjab. Some say Referendum will not achieve Khalistan. Some choose to ignore the subject and stay silent like the majority on this forum. All are mostly signs of cowardice! Your wasting your time about this subject on this forum, as the majority of posters here are people who are disconnected from the real world.

Forget stats man, gauge by your own personal experience. Many Panjabis DRINK. And it starts young with males. A lot of bonding happens around it, as well as pointless fights. A lot of old men seem to anesthetise themselves on Famous Grouse.

Depending on what statistics and reports you may read, Punjab may not even be the state with the highest consumption of alcohol. Apparently Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal consume the most alcohol Surprisingly, the southern states also consume high levels of alcohol.

Nah, it just helped me to confirm what you are. Dumb. I've heard worse than any of the above in schoolyard playgrounds btw. Seriously though dude, why do you get so sensitive with critiques of Panjabi culture/casteism? It's not like anyone is attacking Sikhi? It's not like I'm not Panjabi myself, or that I've never done any of the stuff myself. Are you the type to sit down with the family and watch Flying Juts as good, clean family entertainment on a Friday night? lol

it could be that only the narcissists would have survived the waves of invasions and sikhs are an abbrerent groups as they are not of the same cloth coping mechanism wise a bit like Viktor frankl pointed out that most of the survivors of the camps were capos or really nasty psycopaths/sociopaths

All children have narcissism as a trait from the get go it allows them to survive and fight for resources but as they mature healthily they will drop it majorly and develop their emapthic natures as their emotional intelligence increases the narcissist is stunted , developmentally deformed on the emotional and spiritual front they create a false personality to hide that and woe betide anyone who breaks that image by hinting at the truth. Narcissistic kryptonite is having self-love/ self-esteem, integrity, a strong identity of self and contentment , they look for chinks of insecurity to exploit then they move in. They will lovebomb you until you think they are in love with you and then they are happy as they have full access to your resources whether emotional (friends and shielding them from having to engage with the lower forms of human (all other humans than themselves) ) material (home, money, even locations (my SIL would collect people as 'friends' to have access to their homes to holiday at for free) or intellectual my MIL got accepted to Cambridge for her Phd but had to give that up because of my FIL being jealous he couldn't achieve the same . Then when they have what they want they will drop you like a piece of trash . I've seen so many empathetic people getting caught out by such scumbags .

What do you do with split ends? Half my hair have split ends! My hairs not dry at all, I oil my hair around 2 times a week. How can you prevent split ends? It hasn't stopped my hair from growing though ...

Yea that's probably the reason why

My own observation is parents are only modelling the parental styles of their parents , so you have to feel for them in a way. My dad was heavily influenced by his Dad , who happened to grow up an orphan and had to support his older sister despite never being allowed to go school though he cribbed off his cousins school notes and sat the exams gaining scholarship into higher education. So he had never learnt to love as he had not received it from elders and the chain went down to my dad and his siblings , this meant my Dad had trouble connecting too although he was caring in his way , buying books for me (his eldest- and surprisingly he had no problem with being a girl) and encouraging my education. My mum was always the velvet glove over the steel , you did not mess with her , not that she would crush you but you didn't want to disappoint her and see that pained look in her eyes, my work ethic came from her as did my parenting style . I did not want to tread the well worn path of other punjabis of scoring points off the kids because that is 1. a loser move 2. a hateful thing to be subjected to as a kid ( I remember the conversations where aunties and uncles would try to point score as a kid and I found it distressing to hear my Mum say why can't you be more like falana, I was top student in my school at the time) 3. undermines a kid's belief in the parent's love 4. makes the kid feel a failure unnecessarily (you know how them folks exaggerated about their kids) My husband's parents are something else they are narcissistic in the clinical sense(FIl overt, MIL covert) and therefore really didn't give genuine love to anyone , still don't , everything is conditional and they have to be idolised and in control of their children's lives to the nth degree . I can see how it has damaged their kids and thankfully they live thousands of miles away so my kids can recognise there is something not genuine about them (all image no substance) I feel that apnay love to live vicariously through their kids almost in a narcissistic way at least and pathologically at worst where it destroys the kids confidence and sense of self , it is extreme and unhelpful . The sikh model of parenting is at least encouraging and at best creates superhuman levels of postivity in the children who become real assets to society.

I keep my hair in a joora so I don't really have any split ends. If you dry your hair with a towel, that may be causing it. If you sleep without a keski, your joora may open up and your hair can get tangled. When you use your kanga, make sure that there are no knots left when done combing.

Yeah, most uncles aunties were shipped off to the West by their parents when they were only 16, 17 years old. And they found themselves in an alien country with a strange culture. Considering they came from large extended families and then found themselves being all alone in this country, and being sent away from their home when they were only 16 or 17 must have been very traumatic. But that don't explain why the same generation born in the UK are weird as well. A lot of them have a chip on their shoulder.

Finally we both agree on something.

Yeh that’s my point. He had a support base in the UK from Kenyan Sikhs because of his caste. He was a senior a Congress politician that’s why Oversees Congress Party made up of Kenyan Ramgharia Sikhs never withdrew their support for the Congress Party even after 1984 Bluestar attack. It was a different story in Punjab because the Tarkhan/Ramgharia community have a connection to the land and more so their faith. Loyalties differ from the two communities. I must say that the Kenyan Ramgharia community did not do anything to damage the Khalistan movement but did not do anything to support it, nor did they play any part in protesting against the Indian government. Really shameful if you ask me!

As per my understanding which might be incorrect, I always thought the wood used is from dead branches as they are dry and cured perfect for firewood. The trees are still living as whole living trees are not felled. Even if they are alive and dead branches from the trees are used, then they are still gathering kamai later for their liberation. The same could be applied to the ingredients used for the preparation of Langar.

Bro if you remember the 80’s you will have picture in your mind where everyone was pretty much Monah. I remember men being carried out blind drunk out of weddings all the time. I must admit there was more ‘bhaichara’ amongst people, but boy they were shameless when It came down to drinking culture. Now fast forward to present time you see less people getting blind drunk at weddings but admittedly women are now drinking in the open. You also se so many Dumala wearing Singhs and Singhnia which never seen 30 years back. All is not lost, if anything we are moving forward positively. Chardikala vich rehna sikh!

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh Sadh sangat ji, i been having dreams lately. In each dream i have taken amrit and i see my life totally changed for the better. I been feeling like something is missing since everything is very stable in my life at the moment, thanks to waheguru. I actually took Amrit when i was 10 years old in india and kept it for 2 years but had to give it up when i came to UK. Family didn't help much, they just said u shud give up amrit cos its gonna be hard here. Please can u tell me about my dream and advice cos i want to take Amrit sometime next year as there are things i have to work out. My daddi ji has been Amritdhari for about 75 years or maybe more My sister who took Amrit with me when we were kids is still Amritdhari

Before I say anything, I should mention that I am not promoting the use of psychoactives (unless you've had a long day or need a pick-me-up or are sick and tired of pressing the bored button). It's funny you should mention the use of opium, because many would assume the users would have been zoned out or stoned so to speak. When I first found out that the effects were actually to the contrary, I was extremely surprised. The stereotype of an amli wasn't entirely true. There are many opiate compounds which have a stimulant effect. This would have been extremely useful in the examples above. Such as in, as you said political, social, and military objectives/tactics, and basically everything required of an effective leader. As well as in collating information, fact gathering, writing, proof reading, and all the work of a Kavi/writer. Dare I say it may have been useful in battle too? I had always wondered why people who work long hours or do hard labour/tedious work take it. Many moons ago, I tried opium tea - needless to say, I wish I had known at the time, of the actual effects lol. As for Sukha, I can almost imagine why this would have been used if these Singhs were really prepared for Shaheedi. There's no doubt cannabis can give you a sense of rhythm and fluidity (right amount, right strain), so if one was trained in Shastar Vidya, was not afraid of death, had their dyaan on Gurbani, they would literally become a killing machine, in theory. Having said this, it may be hard to replicate the exact type and level of intoxication these Singhs would have experienced due to the obvious changes/variables in cannabis production. I wonder if there's an exact recipe out there? I think the old Indian classifcation system was unique in regards to psychoactives. It wasn't as simple as "drugs are bad, stay away" type of thing. In fact I think the west is catching on now to what the east believed donkeys years ago. Plus we have the Ayurvedic system, which cannabis and opiates are a part of. Alcohol is too but in very very rare circumstances and under strict supervision as it's not particularly useful when ingested. Cannabis and opiates have beneficial practical applications and effects depending on the situation, and are not in most cases, harmful when used in controlled conditions (as they would have been). As always, unless you have an absolutely solid reason to take them, there's no need. And some justifications are downright silly although I personally do not have a problem with Nihangs using it today. If you do, please don't post it here, go and tell them. If you are objective about the whole thing, and actually know a thing or two about psychotropic pharmacopoeia as well as Indic medical, spiritual, and for all intents and purposes genuine practical usage attitudes towards certain substances, then it's not really hard to imagine. No one feels bad popping a few codeine pills or sees it at breaking maryada. And before anyone says "it's medicine", well all pharmaceuticals are not for pain relief believe it or not, they have other uses, uses which are not recreational either; enhance rather than attenuate.

Many people are opening their eyes up to previously unknown/discarded bani and puratan granths. The only problem we still have with this is they need to hear it from what they perceive to be qualified legit sources. If you don't look the part or an individual has a preconceived opinion about you, and you mention some of this stuff to them (folks who act holier than thou), they will look at you like a fudu. Few months down the line you'll hear them repeat exactly what you told them, except they heard from a supposedly credible source. There is no trust and way too much paranoia. I've personally been in this situation a number of times. One ridiculous time was over something as small as Singhs, and Singhnis for that matter, wearing earrings in the days of old. They did a 180 on this after hearing it elsewhere, and were even shocked to learn that the wife of an esteemed sant wore earrings. I won't name names though. As for poor pendu Jatts (a background I am from so watch yourself ), here's a link to a guidebook from the British Raaj, not about Jatts per se, but overall you get the gist of the attitude the whiteman had towards us: http://access.bl.uk/item/viewer/ark:/81055/vdc_00000003545A#?c=0&m=0&s=0&cv=0&z=1109.6746%2C284.0088%2C2505.4647%2C1050.9099&xywh=-1112%2C-13%2C3983%2C2112 Kirpans these days couldn't cut a flipping potato, and the wishy washy folks are glad. The only way I see around this is having a reputable place to procure them from, who isn't out to rip you off. Maybe an offical Kirpan retailer, if all sampardas could agree to something like that in the first place. Must be someone who respects shastar they way they should be. We should all try and learn the art of sharpening/honing too, something which I'm realising is more complicated and difficult than it seems. I can't comment on dastaar wearing bibis, although I have noticed what you're saying, they and their bache are too bholeh.

Dally, seems like I'm not the only one remembering your incessant rambling littered with extremely interesting expletives! The admin over at SikhAwareness are harassing me to urge you to come back over there. Please go and see them. In particular the root admin Sarabatam, who seems to have replaced Neo after he was kidnapped by Teja Singh Bhasaur's remaining chele. (this is a genuine benti from them all)

Being new to this community I recently stumbled across the Health and Fitness topics. I found that most guys especially were seeking answers to how to gain size, get toned or increase strength. I feel that most people associate strength with muscular size and weight lifting stats. This is something I used to do also until I questioned the gains you get from that type of training especially when applied to real life street combat situations. I mean that bench pressing equals strong and big chests but that also leads to a slow delivery of a punch when throwing hooks. Boxers rarely build their chests this reason. Curls enable you to build large bicep muscles but this type of strength does not help you in any life situations. The same goes for many weight training exercises because most are designed to pull or push weights at different angles but do little for real life situations of combat. After some thought and research I questioned what exercises and training should be implemented to gain an edge in the heat of a fight in need to defend yourself. My theory is that your exercise program should be designed around your action. For example throwing a punch requires powerfull fast movements similar to throwing a ball or chopping with an axe at a tree so why not practice these movements to build the correct muscles involved to that job. Stamping on someone requires powerfull driving of legs so why not practice this by legpressing with one leg against immovable objects to build those muslcles involved. Grappling requires immense grip strength so train those muscles by attempting to squash apples and potatos in each palm. To build overall body strength try to push against an immovable object like a wall or a tree, this involves the use of major muscle groups and smaller ones that get neglected during weight training exercises. You could also try pulling a rope tied against pole to increase your man handling power. This type of training is back to basics and serves a pupose not just something designed to increase muscular size for aesthetics. Because in all honesty bodybuilders look strong and powerfull but the low bodyfat and low water levels for tone and cuts is gained by sapping the body to show definition but a person in that state is at their weakest point. Just ask how a bodybuilder feels after a competing. Their power is only useful for lifting weights at controlled angles and do not serve any purpose in the real world. We need to be powerfull but we need to be strong for a purpose. Stamina needs to be on top our priorities, we should also be able to climb and jump. By practising these movements and feeding our bodies we can build those muscles to do that job efficiently. The best thing about this back to basics training is that you can apply it out of the gym anywhere. Incorporate press ups and bodyeight exercises such as chinups, bodyweght squats to increase natural strength without weakening the body by injuring it. Isometric exercises are also great for this type of training as they require no equipment and the resistance is again made up by natural exercises such as pushing your palms together and applying pressure or locking out your arms against a door frame. My reason for writing on this topic is because I too was into weight training but asked myself questions on how the people in the ages before modern equipment and time for long complicated training routines were able to build powerful bodies that could be efficient in combat.

Firstly my bodyweight at the time of performing those lifts was 94kg. My starting bodyweight was around 70 kg. The training period to achieve those lifts was between 3 to 4 years, however I feel I could have achieved those lifts earlier if my training incorporated pyramid training as powerlifters do but I was young and all I wanted to achieve was size and strength was not on top of my lists. I wasn't vegetarian at the time but I don't feel that hinders anyone's progress as most bodybuilders/ strength athletes use milk based protiens to feed their muscles. My squatting was rubbish considering the hamstring muscles and quads are very large muscles. I did regular squats with bar along the traps and I went low. My routines were standard 4 day splits where one muscle group was trained to failure once per week. I injured myself during deadlifts because I didn't warm up well during a heavy pull so I had to rethink training. As for someone who doesn't train suffering from muscle fatigue! The answer is your muscles are not programmed to set number of repetitions or weight numbers so mentally you don't know when to fail. I no longer believe in counting reps or calculating weights or performing reps to a set time when performing exercises because this holds you back. Your body gets used to this. Train till failure and perform maximum loads when performing isometric exercises. I believe this works and if you've heard of Charles Bronson then you'll find he trains in similar ways due him being confined to limited space and not having access to equipment. He holds many world records. Old time Punjabi wrestlers trained in this method too and were untouchable in ther discipline. Training back to basics against immovable objects without mental blocks helped them achieve great feats.