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  1. 8 points
    well if you did not make such absurd posts no one would have a problem with you.
  2. 7 points
    All I hear repeatedly is a message to use common sense, think logically, develop your minds, do paath/ardas yourself and try to understand, make your own connection with waheguru who is inside you. Compare that to my local gurdwara Gianni who is more than happy to take a tenner to do ardaas, instead of saying look mate I can show you how to do it but this needs to come from you. If I was making money from Sikhi I wouldn't like this guy either.
  3. 7 points
    Wow, you're just full of yourself, aren't you? How do you know anything? Ever ask yourself that? You want to apply skeptical methods to Sikhism and the Gurus. Ever done so to every other aspect of life, history, and historical persons? How do you know Jesus even existed? How do you know Plato existed? Or Socrates? That "his words" were his? Or Churchill's words were his? Or Dickens'? Or Shakespeare's? Or Chaucer's? Or Milton's? I'll bet that you just accept those 100%. I'll accept that you're a real skeptic if every time your teacher or professor starts to teach one of these books, you raise your hand and doubt the very existence of them.
  4. 7 points
    you sure it was an accident? you might have pissed them off and they did it on purpose
  5. 6 points
    See, the problem is that he is being dishonest in his approach. I asked him whether he takes the same approach in relation to every other author that is presented in his school or college classes. He says yes. Sorry, but I cannot but see that as a lie. The teacher starts out to teach Shakespeare, or whatever, and he (instead of reading from the play), starts talking about "What proof is there that Shakespeare even existed?" or "These are Shakespeare's actual words"? Or the teacher starts talking about WWII, and he says "What proof is there that Churchill or Hitler even existed?" Oh, I would love to hear him say "There's no proof that Hitler killed 6 million Jews." Go ahead @mahandulai. Write up an article saying that (with your actual name), send it to a newspaper, or your college professor. So, @Jaggaa, the problem people have is not with skepticism, but with a skepticism reserved only for our Gurus and Sikhism.
  6. 6 points
    Good point, what a loser. Hey, @mahandulai , how do you even know that there even is anybody on the other end of the Internet that you're using to connect with what you think is the Internet? For all you know, it's just GCHQ that's on the other end, there is no Bhforce, there is no JKVlondon, etc. How do you know that your mother is your mother and your father is your father? Have you done a DNA test? If so, did you do the DNA test yourself? Did you create the thermal cycler yourself? If not, how can you trust the result? Using the standard you used for our Gurus, it can only be concluded that you are a bas ta rd until you can conclusively prove to the contrary. Also, you'll have to replicate all of genetic science yourself.
  7. 6 points
    In simple words: either their manmukhta, or their agyanta, though in the end, these are 2 sides of the same coin. Then above all, it is a matter of Maharaj´s Kirpa, to those whom He himself calls, through Hukum they come willingly, it is in their karam. These who come willingly, as said is more of his kirpa, than any intention of ours, for if He wants so, who van resist His hukum? Of course not even Kaal! To these, Gurbani names them as wadbhagee jeevas. Does not the Bani say: bhoolay marg jinay batayaa, aisa Gur wadbhagee paaya. Here the marg is sikhee, which takes the wadbhagee jeeva, through Guru Jee back home. You see sikhee is a path of love, of devotion, of kirpa from Akal Purukh, whosoever practices and walks on it faithfully, reaches Nijh Ghar, Sach Khand. Sat Sree Akal.
  8. 6 points
    I agreement that you posts are absurd. I have reviewed some of your yourtube content also - if you do not agree with the way in which the faith is and the way in which the faithful practice the faith do not comment on them. I am at a disbelief that someone who has Kesh and ties a Dastar is questioning the very purpose of the identity that he is keeping - its Ludacris. We have enough people trying to tarnish our community as it is without requiring for members of the community themselves try and tarnish us! You don't have faith - that's fine You need evidential proof - that's fine. Tell me this - can you prove that your mother is your mother and your father is your father? Have you ever questioned your father if he is your father? No you wouldn't because you have faith in his word - it is akin to questioning the purpose of the Kakkar - and the purpose of Dhan Guru Granth Sahib Ji - my Guru gave us a hukam - there is no need to question. Aap Guru Kartar - The Guru himself is the All Prevading Being. You need a tight slap - someone born of the Sikh faith is referring to the Guru as just poetry - the Gian that Guru sahib gives us is immeasurable. Its time for indioviduals like you / and others to stop trating Maharaj as an idol, if you pick the Rumalla up just once and take a glimpse of the Guru and Read and Vichaar on its word maybe just maybe your eyes will open!
  9. 6 points
    @mahandulai why are you a sikh? no trick question, is it because of science? also do you believe in god? what do the guru's mean to you? it would be helpful to know where you stand with sikhi
  10. 6 points
    This present thread makes at least 2 points clear to be paid atention: 1) One may try to disguise as a sikh, for sikhism is very much related to purity and truthfulness 2) No matter, if a donkey or a pig dresses(evil doer such as rapist, terrorist) itself as a lion(sikh), yet it´s fakeness will be revealed sooner than later, for the scent of evil is right in them, in their very nature.
  11. 5 points
    simple answer , sikhi offers everything the other two don't, without the discriminating garbage and the false human arbiters/intermediaries .
  12. 5 points
    you are the kind of guy who would go to a holocaust commeration and say why so sad? In case it escaped you 31st oct to 6 November is Delhi Genocide week
  13. 5 points
    Found the following beautiful piece on principals of sikhee on the net. It is question from a seeker and an answer from an unknown sikh brother. Though it was in 2002, yet I feel it is valid even today. I am just cpoying and pasting it as it is originally. Summary of Question: A Few Questions Category: General Sikhism Date Posted: Wednesday, 10/07/2002 12:53 MDT Sat Sri Akal. I am a sikh boy living in London, UK. I have a few questions which i hope you will be able to answer for me. Firstly.. I have cut hair..does this make me a bad person? I Pray often and i belive in Sikhism a lot and all it's teachings. Secondly..Is it wrong to have a girlfriend? I dont have one at the moment but i was just wondering. Lastly What did our Gurus say about Smoking. Again, i dont smoke but i was just wondering. Thank you very very much! ___________________________________________________________________________ Sat Siri Akal. Does having cut hair make you a bad person? No. It does not make you a bad person. Being a Sikh is not something you are born into, it is a spiritual commitment that you choose. Having cut hair means you haven't committed to the discipline of being a Sikh. But it isn't a question of "bad" or "good." Second: Is it wrong to have a girlfriend? Same issue. For many people, it is not wrong to have a girlfriend. A girlfriend is a very low-commitment proposition. You can have her one week, get rid of her the next. You know? A Sikh lives by honor, discipline and commitment. For a Sikh- a girlfriend isn't possible. A Sikh needs a stronger commitment than that. So - intimate relationships with the opposite sex are reserved only for married people because that type of relationship requires a commitment in order for it to be successful. The Gurus taught that the only intoxicant worth taking was the intoxication of meditating and singing about the Spirit and the Divine. So all intoxicants - including smoking, alcohol, and drugs - are not needed by a Sikh. There are two stages in choosing a spiritual path. One is - hey- I like it. The other is - wow- I'm going to commit to living the discipline in order to transform myself. You like Sikhism. And that's great. Sikhism is a very easy religion to like because it so universal and elevating. But to be a Sikh requiries more than agreeing with its principles. It requires a commitment to the discipline. Otherwise, it's just window-shopping. Keep praying and keep believing, and ask the Guru's guidance. You'll be fine. All love, GPK
  14. 5 points
    Sikhi is a very easy religion. Problem? We make it difficult ourselves. There are far too many "You're not allowed to do this/ that." From Guru Nanak's teachings, 80% is to do with living in society and 20% is the spiritual path... Don't believe it?? Ok, Sacha Kirth karni, wand k shakna and Naam japna. Notice the first two! Imagine if the whole world was earning an honest living (inc. Politicians) and if everyone shared their money/ food with each other! Wouldn't it be Sachkhand on Earth? Instead "Oh? You're an Amritdhari? You're not allowed this. You're not allowed that. Don't even breath..." Etc. Then we get in fights from different jathe bandhis to Gurudwara committee. What are we portraying to others? Sikhi is hard when it's not and fights. Why don't we tell others to do Nitnem when Amritvela, earn an honest living and deswand? Do Sangat/ Seva at Gurudwara and not t indulge in Bujjer Kureths?
  15. 5 points
    OWNERSHIP & HAPPINESS A man who has gone out of his town comes back and finds that his house is on fire. It was one of the most beautiful houses in the town, and the man loved the house the most! Many were ready to give double price for the house, but he had never agreed for any price and now it is just burning before his eyes. And thousands of people have gathered, but nothing can be done, the fire has spread so far that even if you try to put it out, nothing will be saved. So he becomes very sad. His son comes running and whispers something in his ear: "Don't be worried. I sold it yesterday and at a very good price ― three times. The offer was so good I could not wait for you. Forgive me." Father said, "thank God, it's not ours now!" Then the father is relaxed and became a silent watcher, just like 1000s of other watchers. Please think about it! Just a moment before he was not a watcher, he was attached. It is the same house....the same fire.... everything is the same...but now he is not concerned. In fact started enjoying it just as everybody else in the crowd. Then the second son comes running, and he says to the father, "What are you doing? You are smiling ― and the house is on fire?" The father said, "Don't you know, your brother has sold it." He said, "We have taken only advance amount, not settled fully. I doubt now that the man is going to purchase it now." Again, everything changes!! Tears which had disappeared, have come back to the father's eyes, his smile is no more there, his heart is beating fast. The 'watcher' is gone. He is again attached. And then the third son comes, and he says, "That man is a man of his word. I have just come from him. He said, 'It doesn't matter whether the house is burnt or not, it is mine. And I am going to pay the price that I have settled for. Neither you knew, nor I knew that the house would catch on fire.'" Again the joy is back and family became 'watchers'! The attachment is no more there. Actually nothing is changing! Just the feeling that "I am the owner! I am not the owner of the house!" makes the whole difference. The Moral : This simple methodology of watching the mind, That you have nothing to do with it. Everything starts with a Thought! Most of the thoughts are not yours but from your parents, your teachers, your friends, the books, the movies, the television, the newspapers. Just count how many thoughts are your own, and you will be surprised that not a single thought is your own. All are from other sources, all are borrowed ― either dumped by others on you, or foolishly dumped by yourself upon yourself, but nothing is yours.
  16. 5 points
    This is pretty much what the Singh Sabha/SGPC did/does. They tried to box Sikhi, westernise it, Christianise it. It quite evident even today how Sikhi is viewed with an Abrahamic framework. While I don't disagree Sikhi has some basic universal rules, I strongly disagree that it can or should be boxed; this tries to take away the depth and beant nature of Dharam and creates a rigidity that is the antithesis of Sikh/Dharmic interpretation, thinking, and practise as well as the pluralism which has always existed. The reformist and revisonist sochni started by them has been detrimental to Sikhi, and today we pay a heavy price. There are hordes of Sikhs and non-Sikhs alike who speak about and view Sikhi in wholly Abrahmic terms. People are literally told what to believe, the do's and don'ts..like a rule book, like the 10 Commandments or a version of Sharia & Fiqh...it goes on and on. An insidious and poisonous mindset. Dharam cannot be interpreted by, or confined to western or Abrahamic philosophy/standards/theology/theism. All this has done is created a watered down, bland Sikhi with a check-list of what makes one a Sikh rather that creating true Sharda Bhaavna Khoji Gursikhs, and actual Jigyasus...people who actually use their Guru-given Buddhi. It has also given rise to the kind of mindless debates Abrahmic faiths have with each other and amongst themselves...not to forget the retarded missionaries et al. And of course we have the terrible English translations which have led to a exclusively literal, flat interpretation of Sikhi, again with people approaching it like an Abrahamic text...we can't really blame them when it's been made to sound like one. I don't necessarily agree with the OP's points but he makes a mention of Buddhism...he has a point; Sikhi is in an odd position when it comes to westerners...they are either attracted to Sikhi for it seems like a simplified Abrahamic faith, or they are put off for the very same reason. I feel they do not always get a true sense of Sikhi like they may with the other Dharmic faiths. Albeit, this is changing thanks to some of todays prachaaraks and the strengthening of Sampardaic Sikhi; a more open-minded, varied and colourful Sikhi...the pre-colonial, pre-Singh Sabha reform Sikhi...true Sikhi. Singh Sabha/SGPC Sikhism isn't the standard, isn't the basic framework, and certainly isn't the blissful unifying saviour reform of Sikhi Sidhant it's made out to be. It's an ideology, a school of thought, and a terrible, destructive one at that. Their legacy is a bunch of paranoid Hinduphobic, Indicphobic, and actually Sikhiphobic individuals who water down, twist and malign Sikhi to suit their delusional agenda. The sheer irony...they cannot see they are headed in totally the same direction of what they so fear but are just taking a different route. May the ridiculous idea of "One Panthic Rehat Maryada" die a swift death. There can never be one because there simply isn't one type of Sikh and there never was! "One Granth, One Panth"...? No thanks, we have at least two which are central to the Sikh Panth, yet some Sikhs cannot seem to comprehend this and instead jump on the sensationalist bandwagon in the name of "Ekta". What they don't realise is there was far more Ekta in the days of old and the cause of disunity is due to what they are in fact promoting. We need to fix up. Dhan Guru Nanak! Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji! Dhan Mata Sahib Devan Ji! Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji! Dhan Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji! Gurbar Akaal!
  17. 5 points
    Interesting video I came across, made some very good points and research.
  18. 5 points
    Maybe Hamduleeeelaaaaaaa !!!
  19. 5 points
    some of our ithias is recorded by non Sikhs, even people who didn't like Sikhs. For example Mughal emperor Jehangir himself wrote in his diary, which is available in english, that he ordered Guru Arjan Dev Ji to be persecuted. But we don't need any poxy diaries or accounts from non sikhs as we have faith in our ithias Sikhi isn't about proof, evidence and fact, its about belief and faith. According to OUR ithias many gursikhs were questioned, ridiculed and laughed at for being sikhs but that didn't deter them because they had faith in their guru. Even when society turned against them they still didn't turn their back to their guru because they had faith when you have faith you don't need fact, proof or evidence. which is why no one on here is actually taking your questions seriously
  20. 5 points
    And we don't have to accept Muslim concerntrolls
  21. 5 points
    there have been billboards of Harbhajan Singh, Dhawan, Yuvraj. Danny Batth a few years ago was the face of Wolverhampton
  22. 5 points
  23. 5 points
    I don't really like asking for this, but can we just ban him now? He's been more of a disruption than anything else, and it's been proven that everyone else thinks so.
  24. 4 points
    hit the nail on the head. This is what Hinduism is. Its an umbrella term for different faiths with similarities that have been placed together. I would not even be surprised if these small faiths want to break away from this Hinduism terms and be recognised as a separate faith. RSS will do its best to ensure this does not happen.
  25. 4 points
    Bring back hanging it's the only thing that works.


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